Current Events > WNBA Player not being paid the same as Lebron sparks outrage.

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I would take a $215k salary to play a game...

^ 215k is like the upper echelon of WNBA player salaries, and that's for a year

I looked, and it seems like the average salary for a WNBA player is around 75k

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g0ldie posted...

^ 215k is like the upper echelon of WNBA player salaries, and that's for a year

I looked, and it seems like the average salary for a WNBA player is around 75k

That is still a ton of money for playing a game... 34 games in a season, so what if we did a little (rough) math? An average game is apparently 2.5 hours long. That means that just playing (no practicing or training), a WNBA team will have about 85 hours of play time. Each team has at least 10 players - so if each player got equal play time, that would mean each player gets 42.5 hours per season.

That means in about a standard work week, a player makes $75k. That is about $1764/hour.


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People need to learn basic economics.

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g0ldie posted...

^ 215k is like the upper echelon of WNBA player salaries, and that's for a year

I looked, and it seems like the average salary for a WNBA player is around 75k

Are you saying I wouldn't be better than the average WBNA player??

That money comes from TV deals largely which the players are then able to negotiate with the owners for a piece of. If more people watched the WNBA there would be more money for the women.

Theyre playing the same sport but thats not equating to the same generation of revenue. This isnt like a man and a woman doing the same job at a company and generating the exact same amount of money for said company.

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Monolith1676 posted...

People need to learn basic economics.

This-- the NBA makes billions every year & has had to support the WNBA just to keep it going.

just more dumb american stuff.the WNBA doesn't bring in anywhere near the amount of money the NBA does,nor in the opinion of many is it interesting.its not sexism,its just how it is.people just aren't drawn to it.......its not that the women aren't talented,because they are,it just doesn't catch the interest of millions of people.also,its one of those "women should get whatever men get situations." even if sue bird was paid that kind of money like lebron james,i'm sure the team owners would see that its being wasted as people aren't rushing in to see seattle storm games.........

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Well most of you guys aren't being fair. The CBA for the men is higher than the WNBA. So they want it to match the same ratio as the NBA.

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Honestly the most surprising thing about that picture is that Lebron only got $370k for winning the finals

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Mabus hit all the points but the one that matters is league revenue.

I dunno what shes trying to accomplish exactly but thats just such an obvious point. You cant get paid more than your team draws in a year. Thats dumb.


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Sue Bird made double of what i did and i bet i could destroy her 1 on 1. Also, she looks good for an athlete in her 40's.

WNBA needs to be SPLIT-OFF from the NBA into it's own Independent Company / Business.

They need to survive on their own merits.

Not leech off the NBA once they can't make enough money.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

Mabus hit all the points but the one that matters is league revenue.

I dunno what shes trying to accomplish exactly but thats just such an obvious point. You cant get paid more than your team draws in a year. Thats dumb.

It's not just the team, it's the entire WNBA league that can't draw the viewership.

That's on them for not going out and trying to attract more viewers.

NBA is not responsible for that.

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YellowSUV posted...

If I was paid 200k a year to play basketball I'd be very happy.

facts

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This is messed up. Should be atleast $1 million a year

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Just a point to make, I don't give a shit about basketball, much less the NBA. I at least know who Lebron James is. I have no fucking clue who the other person. THAT is why he gets paid millions. Meanwhile, I regularly forget the WNBA exists.

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MaverickXeo posted...

That is still a ton of money for playing a game... 34 games in a season, so what if we did a little (rough) math? An average game is apparently 2.5 hours long. That means that just playing (no practicing or training), a WNBA team will have about 85 hours of play time. Each team has at least 10 players - so if each player got equal play time, that would mean each player gets 42.5 hours per season.

That means in about a standard work week, a player makes $75k. That is about $1764/hour.

According to this take, the job doesnt require practices, their own training on the side, press interviews, promotional appearances, charitable work through WNBA Cares, etc.

Im 100% on the side of its a ridiculous argument that they deserve equal pay, but this take is a horrible take.

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what can make the WNBA more popular, if anything?

I don't watch sports, so idk.

someone in an earlier post said something about women's soccer, and in the US at least, it's pretty popular (at least during the World Cup & the Olympics), but I dunno any other women's sports besides tennis that have many people caring about them.

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If the NBA didnt provide funding there wouldnt be a WNBA. No one wants to watch that shit.

gamer167 posted...

If the NBA didnt provide funding there wouldnt be a WNBA. No one wants to watch that shit.

Why should the NBA provide ANYTHING to the WNBA at this point.

WNBA is a mature organization, they're past the point of needing "Seed Money".

They should be able to survive on their own and Re-Pay the NBA for all the debt that they incurred starting their own organization.

The WNBA should be THANKFUL to the NBA for giving them the funding to start up.

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g0ldie posted...

what can make the WNBA more popular, if anything?

I don't watch sports, so idk.

someone in an earlier post said something about women's soccer, and in the US at least, it's pretty popular (at least during the World Cup & the Olympics), but I dunno any other women's sports besides tennis that have many people caring about them.

@g0ldie

I really dont know if there is a way to make it more popular. The skill level is simply a lot lower than the NBA, so it looks vastly inferior by comparison.

Womens soccer is popular in the US when the World Cup rolls around because the women are actually competitive. Americans are very jingoistic, so the fact that they (we) can use it as a means to say were #1 at something is appealing. At the same time, womens soccer isnt popular at any other time in America, to be frank.

Womens tennis actually has something to offer, in that the power aspect of the mens game can make the points come quickly, so there arent nearly as many long volleys. And the volleys can be quite fun to watch in tennis, so in that regard, womens tennis has something to offer thats a part of the game and is entertaining.

And thats really what it comes down to. In basketball, what can the women do that sets it aside from the men, and at the same time, is that difference entertaining? The answer is... no such thing exists that sets it apart while being entertaining.

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eston posted...

Lebron is arguably one of the best players in the history of the sport

I think you mean inarguably @eston


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thank you, @The_Popo

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g0ldie posted...

what can make the WNBA more popular, if anything?

I don't watch sports, so idk.

someone in an earlier post said something about women's soccer, and in the US at least, it's pretty popular (at least during the World Cup & the Olympics), but I dunno any other women's sports besides tennis that have many people caring about them.

gymnastics and ice skating are done well by women. Nobody really watches this outside the Olympics though

oh yea, true.

thanks.

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ShineboxPhil posted...

The nba's revenue goes towards keeping the wnba afloat. They should stfu.

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Its the same deal with the CFL vs NFL. Why would you ever go see a CFL match up when you could watch NFL instead. I'm sure the WNBA players are very talented, but they aren't nearly as marketable as the NBA players, especially Jordan, Lebron James, and Shaq. I can't even name a single WNBA player.

Blame it on marketing.

Unknown actor that only appears for 2 seconds in the background of 1 movie complains he doesn't make as much as RDJ

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There's just not enough interest in WNBA., can probably see it through revenue streams comparing both.

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Godnorgosh posted...

Yeah, I know why their salaries aren't equal, but are they even remotely proportional?

If salaries were proportional, WNBA players would be paying the league to play.

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The Trent posted...

lol holy fuck I made more money than sue bird last year hahahaha

How do you know? Do you know this is all of her income? No, you don't.

Why don't I get 200k for dribbling a ball?

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g0ldie posted...

I'm not going to make any arguments about how much people should be paid, but 215k vs 37mil is crazy

Not really?

if the guy earning 37mil is generating 2 billion In revenue

and the guy earning 215k(a lot) is generating 400k

That's capitalism
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Lebron needs to fight for her

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if it makes anyone feel any better, LeBron makes about another $55 million in endorsements per year on top of his salary.

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I live in Seattle which has probably the best WNBA team of all time. (I think?) Yet you really never hear anything about the team on a regular basis. WNBA honestly just isn't a mainstream draw and probably never will be.

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cant blame them.

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Just let the teams play against eachother >_>

or let Bird and LeBron 1v1 to swap pay, loser takes less

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I feel like this is one of those topics where people go "look at all the SJW's freaking out about this and defending this" when in reality 95% of them are like "yeah this is just a bullshit story made to grab attention that if anything, detracts away from some of the real points trying to be made"

Like this whole topic practically has been spent saying this is dumb, because it is dumb.

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How does Lebron stack up to Ronaldo in the pay department?

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@GhettoFlip I said what I meant

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g0ldie posted...

what can make the WNBA more popular, if anything?

play in bra and panties

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Bonus for winning 2020 finals: -$370 000

Honestly kind of lower than I expected.

Sue Bird the goat

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I live in Seattle and no one here even cares about the Seattle Storm. I went to a Storm game once and there were only ~100 people at the game (at an arena that fits ~30000).

Ive even ran into Sue Bird at the mall once. No one was going to her for autographs. No one was taking pictures of her. I just smiled, saif hi, and went on my way.

Now imagine if Lebron James was at that mall?

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mD_atheist posted...

The NBA literally subsidizes the WNBA, this is dumb

seriously
"our league can't make money and would have folded decades ago without you but it's also bullshit that we don't get paid anywhere near the highest paid players in your league [who, again, we could not exist without but provide no value back to]"

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AdrianBeterson posted...

I live in Seattle and no one here even cares about the Seattle Storm. I went to a Storm game once and there were only ~100 people at the game (at an arena that fits ~30000).

Ive even ran into Sue Bird at the mall once. No one was going to her for autographs. No one was taking pictures of her. I just smiled, saif hi, and went on my way.

Now imagine if Lebron James was at that mall?

it's fucking bullshit ass sexism that lebron can own his own mall and sue bird can't even get accosted at a a public mall!

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