Current Events > Girls begging for money online are no different than homeless

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Benify posted...

What about guys begging for money online?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7C6yCzvt7g

That has 31 views

Are you him

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CyricZ posted...

Is it me? Or is this conversation just going in circles?

Why is paying for sex sad and pathetic in your opinion?

Literally have already stated this multiple times throughout this topic. Not my fault you dont agree with my opinions.

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this thread got really sad

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MFBKBass5 posted...

emblem boy posted...

It's more weird that you think the only people deserving of sex are the people who are able to find sexual attraction.

Never said that or implied that either. Everyone is deserving of sex.

CyricZ posted...

Are you suggesting that sex is beneath other forms of enjoyment?

Nope. Not sure how you keep drawing such conclusions that arent at all what I said.

Some won't get it without paying. Or some don't want to bother with the effort to get it without paying for it. But I guess the idea is that you find those kinds of people sad and pathetic. I guess I'm just not sure why it's seen as sad and pathetic.

I'm curious, do you feel similar about casual sex also?
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Smackems posted...

That has 31 views

Are you him

Nah, some of his other videos have more views. And I've followed him for a while now.

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emblem boy posted...

Some won't get it without paying. Or some don't want to bother with the effort to get it without paying for it. But I guess the idea is that you find those kinds of people sad and pathetic. I guess I'm just not sure why it's seen as sad and pathetic.

I'm curious, do you feel similar about casual sex also?

Seducing and attracting a mate are the 2 of the most primal/animalistic instincts we have as humans. Youre stripping away your humanity by paying for sex.

I dont see casual sex as the same thing at all. Its adding a monetary value to sex thats what distorts and muddies the waters entirely.

Casual sex is great between two consenting adults. Im a big fan lol


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MFBKBass5 posted...

emblem boy posted...

Some won't get it without paying. Or some don't want to bother with the effort to get it without paying for it. But I guess the idea is that you find those kinds of people sad and pathetic. I guess I'm just not sure why it's seen as sad and pathetic.

I'm curious, do you feel similar about casual sex also?

Seducing and attracting a mate are the 2 of the most primal/animalistic instincts we have as humans. Youre stripping away your humanity by paying for sex.

I dont see casual sex as the same thing at all. Its adding a monetary value to sex thats what distorts and muddies the waters entirely.

Casual sex is great between two consenting adults. Im a big fan lol

It just sounds like you think being unable to sexually attract someone is what's sad and pathetic. I'm sure you feel the same way about pity sex as well?

Lol, it's hard out there man. Some just wanna get some ass
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Using homelessness as an insult shows how much you really care about the homeless. Pretty cool shit, dude. Btw poverty and homelessness isn't a result of an individual's bad decisions but rather a systematic issue.

Also nothing wrong with people trying to get that bag in this fucking shit ass economy. All the power to them as long as they aren't actively hurting anybody.

MFBKBass5 posted...

Gathering and eating food are the 2 of the most primal/animalistic instincts we have as humans. Youre stripping away your humanity by paying for food.

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CommonStar posted...

Using homelessness as an insult shows how much you really care about the homeless. Pretty cool shit, dude. Btw poverty and homelessness isn't a result of an individual's bad decisions but rather a systematic issue.

Also nothing wrong with people trying to get that bag in this fucking shit ass economy. All the power to them as long as they aren't actively hurting anybody.

Its like you didnt even fully read through my original post. You must be struggling in the reading comprehension category, it seems.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Doesnt make that service any less shitty than the service homeless provide by letting people feel good like theyre actually making a difference by donating to the homeless.

Wanna help the homeless out? Dont give them money. Give them a fucking meal so they can eat. Youll make their addictions worse by giving them money they can use to buy more items that made them homeless in the first place.

I do if I have some and I give them cash, why? It's not like I believe them, but if they use that money for their own destruction then so be it

I don't feel good about it, but shit I can most definitely give you a dollar if you ask me

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RedJackson posted...

I do if I have some and I give them cash, why? It's not like I believe them, but if they use that money for their own destruction then so be it

I don't feel good about it, but shit I can definitely give you a dollar if you ask me

Why not help them out by going to a nearby restaurant and getting them food instead? Having had multiple friends either die or have their lives ruined from addiction, I can tell you that giving the homeless money directly is one of the worst ways you can enable them to continue their self destructive habits.

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Garioshi posted...

Gathering and eating food are the 2 of the most primal/animalistic instincts we have as humans. Youre stripping away your humanity by paying for food.

Thank you! We're finally getting somewhere.

(He said knowing that we'll honestly be getting nowhere knowing TC)

Perhaps TC can go into greater detail on the concept of "stripping away humanity".

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Literally have already stated this multiple times throughout this topic. Not my fault you dont agree with my opinions.

Misogyny.
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MFBKBass5 posted...

Why not help them out by going to a nearby restaurant and getting them food instead? Having had multiple friends either die or have their lives ruined from addiction, I can tell you that giving the homeless money directly is one of the worst ways you can enable them to continue their self destructive habits.

Here in MA you'll always see bums downtown.. when I was working there, every time I went into BK or McD they'd ask me for change and I'd just get them a dollar cheeseburger. I always try to give them food if possible.

This one guy though came asking me for money and I told him 'no thanks, I'm not trying to catch COVID' and he told me 'you're not really worried about COVID you just are cheap'

I told him 'you know what Mr. Eyes, you're right - you caught me, here's your prize: absolutely zero dollars and zero cents cause I'm a cheap bastard'

I don't know about e-girls and e-whatevers though.. I don't understand why dudes go out of their way to support someone completely capeable of wanting to game and stream with some other kind of side hustle or day job. Though, I went to a strip club once and it was the biggest waste of time and money ever. I only went because my boy was celebrating and he really saves up and sets money aside just to go lol. In his mind at least he gets to see titties and ass while drinking >_>

I don't get it but hey, it's not my money - personally sex is what everyone is using to entice me.. it's a lethal weapon and while at times I fall prey to it, nowadays it's a turn off for me depending on how it's done.

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CyricZ posted...

Thank you! We're finally getting somewhere.

(He said knowing that we'll honestly be getting nowhere knowing TC)

Perhaps TC can go into greater detail on the concept of "stripping away humanity".

Cyric, do you pay for cam sites/sex/pics of girls? Id like an honest answer. I think I already have an idea, but Id like to directly ask you the question.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Cyric, do you pay for cam sites/sex/pics of girls? Id like an honest answer. I think I already have an idea, but Id like to directly ask you the question.

No I don't. Now, can you address what you mean by "stripping away humanity"?

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CyricZ posted...

No I don't. Now, can you address what you mean by "stripping away humanity"?

Have you ever?

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Have you ever?

No I haven't.

Any time.

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CyricZ posted...

No I haven't.

Any time.

Why not?

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Why not?

Because I've never wanted to.

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TC is trying reeeaaaaallly hard to avoid going any deeper on that "stripping away humanity" comment.

He's trying to turn the focus of the topic on me so he can evade it.

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CyricZ posted...

Because I've never wanted to.

Same, because Ive never been in a low enough place in my life to want to throw
money at some poor chick to
degrade herself just so I can cum.

Im not that selfish.


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MFBKBass5 posted...

Same, because Ive never been in a low enough place in my life to want to throw
money at some poor chick to
degrade herself just so I can cum.

Im not that selfish.

Why you don't want to pay for sex is your own reason, as is mine.

Now answer.

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CyricZ posted...

He's trying to turn the focus of the topic on me so he can evade it.

Nope, just making a point that Ive stated my opinion over and over again yet you refuse to listen because you dont like calling people sad and pathetic.

Some people just are, and thats ok. Shitty women exploit sad and pathetic men on the internet constantly.

I just have every right to judge said people.

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I think one of them is worse

one of them seem more humble

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armandro posted...

I think one of them is worse

one of them seem more humble

one of who?

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Nope, just making a point that Ive stated my opinion over and over again yet you refuse to listen because you dont like calling people sad and pathetic.

Some people just are, and thats ok. Shitty women exploit sad and pathetic men on the internet constantly.

I just have every right to judge said people.

Who gave you the right to judge?

Also you still haven't answered. Yes, I have your opinion. I seek to know why you have that opinion. You really seem to be stalled on this "stripping away humanity" aspect and haven't elaborated.

If you can't answer any further than that, if the answer is "I don't know", then that's fine.

You're biased and judging for reasons you can't explain and we just have to live with that.

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CyricZ posted...

Who gave you the right to judge?

Also you still haven't answered. Yes, I have your opinion. I seek to know why you have that opinion. You really seem to be stalled on this "stripping away humanity" aspect and haven't elaborated.

If you can't answer any further than that, if the answer is "I don't know", then that's fine.

You're biased and judging for reasons you can't explain and we just have to live with that.

Everyone judges. Thats how life and world works. Literally everyone is biased. Different perspectives create different viewpoints. Im expressing mine, but it seems youre offended by it as youre so incredibly combative.

Makes me curious if you were honest about the question I asked you regarded paying for sex, honestly.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Ive never been in a low enough place in my life to want to throw
money at some poor chick to
degrade herself just so I can cum.

MFBKBass5 posted...

Shitty women exploit sad and pathetic men on the internet constantly.

Are they poor people being degraded or are they shitty people exploiting men?

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Took slightly longer than I expected for the accusation of lying about not paying for it to come out.

Yeah and I'm seeking to understand your perspective and you're doing a real poor job at getting it across.

Giving you probably far too much credit, really, but here we are.

If the answer to "why are you biased" is "well everyone is biased" then we're really hitting a wall.

Like you made this topic. Expect to be challenged on it.

And you can do better than just insinuating I'm lying, especially on something you know I wouldn't be able to prove.

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Wow is this sexist thread still up? Cool, this is a good look

these e-thots are just smart i reckon.

like they use their beauty to trick those sucker simps to give them their money just for showing tits and stuff...

goes without saying but that only happens if you let them do it. lol

MFBKBass5 posted...

Seducing and attracting a mate are the 2 of the most primal/animalistic instincts we have as humans. Youre stripping away your humanity by paying for sex.

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You guys really hate women.

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Camwhores don't bug me when I'm just trying to hangout downtown

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I dislike the double standard more then anything. Woman taking advantage of mans desire for sex, female validation and or attention for money is socially accepted. But man making a mutual exchange to women for sex are viewed as criminals and the scum of the earth.

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Wii_Shaker posted...

Girls performing for money online is completely different than panhandling.

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Tenlaar posted...

TC is trying reeeaaaaallly hard to avoid going any deeper on that "stripping away humanity" comment.

Quite frankly I'm a fan of differing view points regardless of the logic or 'why' involved. It doesn't matter to me - propose a case and I can likely find a way in which I can agree with it.

In the case of this, I see 'stripping away humanity' via the people so incredibly unfulfilled by what they're doing that it leads them down a rabbit hole of not really being able to form interpersonal relationships like that by partaking in a monetary system that pretty much places a human being under the category of 'disposable commodity'

People can tell me 'yeah but 99% of them are doing alright' and that's great, but being an outsider myself I've never cared about the 99% of the people doing great.. I care more about the people who will extend the tenure of deeper psychological issues by going this route

At the end of a day I guess they're consenting adults and that's it - boom, I guess there's nothing more to be had or discussed, there's nothing to think about, there's no connecting psychology or societal issues to think about, no wondering about money the ways people are obsessed with it

I see an argument between people who only think with their brain v. people who only think with their heart >_>

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Same, because Ive never been in a low enough place in my life to want to throw
money at some poor chick to
degrade herself just so I can cum.

Im not that selfish.

Why are you framing a woman performing a sexual act as inherently "degrading"

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It's crazy to see TC getting literally obliterated every step of the way by 5+ different users and then still come back to this topic thinking he's defended any of his points in any other way other than "because I think it therefore I'm right"

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NoMeLx22x posted...

It's crazy to see TC getting literally obliterated every step of the way by 5+ different users and then still come back to this topic thinking he's defended any of his points in any other way other than "because I think it therefore I'm right"

Thats TC in a nutshell


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This topic is awful. All it is is the TC stating terrible, hateful opinions without explanation and claiming everyone has a reading comprehension issue. Newsflash, if it seems everyone else has a comprehension issue then it is actually you.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Same, because Ive never been in a low enough place in my life to want to throw
money at some poor chick to
degrade herself just so I can cum.

Im not that selfish.

Bullshit. Unless you're a turbo virgin, you've paid for pussy at least once whether it be you took a girl out for dinner & drinks or put gas in your car to go over to a girl you're hooking up with's place.

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welp, tc is suspended

Lol

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BigNasX posted...

Bullshit. Unless you're a turbo virgin, you've paid for pussy at least once whether it be you took a girl out for dinner & drinks or put gas in your car to go over to a girl you're hooking up with's place.

"You had to pay for the gas to drive to her house" has got to be the most I have ever seen somebody stretch to make an "everybody pays for it somehow" argument.

RedJackson posted...

Tenlaar posted...

TC is trying reeeaaaaallly hard to avoid going any deeper on that "stripping away humanity" comment.

Quite frankly I'm a fan of differing view points regardless of the logic or 'why' involved. It doesn't matter to me - propose a case and I can likely find a way in which I can agree with it.

In the case of this, I see 'stripping away humanity' via the people so incredibly unfulfilled by what they're doing that it leads them down a rabbit hole of not really being able to form interpersonal relationships like that by partaking in a monetary system that pretty much places a human being under the category of 'disposable commodity'

People can tell me 'yeah but 99% of them are doing alright' and that's great, but being an outsider myself I've never cared about the 99% of the people doing great.. I care more about the people who will extend the tenure of deeper psychological issues by going this route

At the end of a day I guess they're consenting adults and that's it - boom, I guess there's nothing more to be had or discussed, there's nothing to think about, there's no connecting psychology or societal issues to think about, no wondering about money the ways people are obsessed with it

I see an argument between people who only think with their brain v. people who only think with their heart >_>

I mean, I don't think anyone is going to disagree that there are some people who probably shouldn't be in the line of work or that there are negatives to it.
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RedJackson posted...

In the case of this, I see 'stripping away humanity' via the people so incredibly unfulfilled by what they're doing that it leads them down a rabbit hole of not really being able to form interpersonal relationships like that by partaking in a monetary system that pretty much places a human being under the category of 'disposable commodity'

Instead of "commodity", I'd prefer to think of it as a service provided like any other. The reason I focused around entertainers early in the topic was because they're all providing some non-tangible service that only has an effect on a non-obvious level. Sex workers offer the same.

The only caveat, as you state, is that people might develop an inability to form interpersonal relationships, and I think that speaks less to said person, and more toward puritanical society's push to tie sex and long-term relationships inextricably together.

"You have a relationship and that relationship will involve sex, and only with each other."

"You can't have sex with other people because that's a betrayal of your relationship."

There are a lot of rules and expectations that are really only in place because society chose to put them there. Which frankly all stemmed from STDs.

"Don't have sex with lots of different people because you and others will all get sick and die and there goes the species."

"But have sex with your long-term companion as much as possible because you'll get kids and we need kids to continue the species."

I really think if we focused on it, we could all but eliminate the worry of disease with our medicinal advancements. At that point, what's holding us back from having sex with whomever we consented to apart from these social "rules"?

And I'm not saying that humanity is ready right now for everyone to be non-monogamous. Heck I'm not ready for that. I'm just saying that the tying of "sex" and "long-term companionship" together in their own little box is what holds us back from having more open discussions about the validity of sex work. If we can start to pull those apart or at least see them as things that are not necessarily exclusive with each other, the closer we get towards sex work as a norm.

And really I'm making it sound a lot easier than it would be. People still become attached to people emotionally and it's hard to account for the effect that might have, and then when you get into sex workers that perform streaming there's the worry of parasocial relationships which have only really become a notable thing in the last decade or so.

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