Current Events > Proud Boys are apparently threatening people if they don't vote for Trump

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Maybe they wont actually do anything but this is pretty nuts. They said it isnt them but I wouldnt take that as fact. Ill quote the email first then the article.

Email:
"Hi (name) We are in possession of all your information You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure. You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply. We will know which candidate you voted for. I would take this seriously if I were you. (Voter's address)"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/come-voters-report-personalized-emails-044725400.html

Law enforcement and election officials are investigating threatening emails sent to voters in multiple Florida counties pressuring them to vote for President Donald Trump and claiming to be from a far-right group with a history of violent confrontations.
The emails, which appeared to be sent from "[email protected]," said the group had obtained contact information about the voter and threatened to come after the person if they dont vote for Trump
The Proud Boys, a group that catapulted to national attention in September when Trump dodged a chance to condemn them, denied responsibility and condemned the emails.
"No, it wasnt us. The people (who sent the emails) used a spoofing email that pretended to be us," Enrique Tarrio, international chairman of the Proud Boys, told USA TODAY. Whoever did this should be in prison for a long time."
Email spoofing is a technique commonly used by scammers to fool victims by making them believe the email comes from a source other than the scammer.
Tarrio said the emails in this case showed signs they were spoofed and said he is working with law enforcement to address the issue. It is voter intimidation, no matter if it came from us or it didnt which it didnt."
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Voter intimidation is a federal offense subject to up to one year imprisonment.
In addition to Florida, similar emails have also been reported in other states, including Alaska and Arizona, according to The Washington Post and the Anchorage Daily News.
The Florida emails appear to follow a similar, although not entirely uniform, format:
"Hi (name) We are in possession of all your information You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure. You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply. We will know which candidate you voted for. I would take this seriously if I were you. (Voter's address)"
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A voter's name, address, email and date of birth are public record, according to the states division of elections website. Who a voter casts a ballot for is not.
The Alachua County Sheriffs Office in Florida said in a Facebook post that the messages appear to be a scam.
Election officials said Tuesday they'd heard of dozens of the emails, but were unsure of whether they were solely sent to registered Democrats.
Donald Schwinn, 85, a snowbird registered to vote in Melbourne Beach, received one, telling FLORIDA TODAY, part of the USA TODAY Network, that "they're trying to scare people into voting for Trump."
Local officials were scrambling to get on top of the situation on Tuesday.
Kimberly Boelzner, spokesperson for Brevard Supervisor of Elections Lori Scott, said their office had received several reports of such emails and were awaiting guidance from the state division of elections.
"We're advising voters to report it to local law enforcement," she said.
By 6 p.m., Boelzner said her office had received about a dozen emails and a dozen calls about the matter. Scott has been in touch with the FBI and other authorities, she said.
Stacey Patel, chair of the Brevard Democrats, said she received at least five such emails from voters Tuesday and had notified the elections supervisor's office.
"We've not seen this kind of voter intimidation in the past and it's obviously really troubling," she said. In a follow-up text, she said she advises recipients of the email to contact the FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI and the Florida Democratic Party Voter Protection team at 1-833-VOTE-FLA.

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DepreceV2 posted...

Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply.

So the only way they'd know someone received their message is if they switched to Republican? lol this is dumb as fuck

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littlebro07 posted...

So the only way they'd know someone received their message is if they switched to Republican? lol this is dumb as fuck

Yep. Incredibly. This is blatant voter suppression again regardless of who is responsible

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Time to abolish the Pride Boys. Hope these clowns get thrown in jail.

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Trump's very fine people

LMAO You think Spam email = threatening people? Jesus I'm getting threatened by scammers in the middle east like 20 times a day then.

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This is why everyone on the left needs to be armed and know how to defend themselves. You hope to god you never have to, but need to be ready to do so

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BunkerBoy posted...

Trump's very fine people

Any statement from Trump about this?

Ruvan22 posted...

Any statement from Trump about this?

"Proud Boys, stand by!"

Heavy_D_Forever posted...

LMAO You think Spam email = threatening people? Jesus I'm getting threatened by scammers in the middle east like 20 times a day then.

A spam email can be threatening, yes. This is exactly what's happening in this case.

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ImAMarvel posted...

Florida?

Naturally

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It's very easy to spoof a header
on the other hand these are the same people who are being told to stand by

so no fucks given on my end if the book gets thrown

Not that I think the shitheels are morally above doing that, but this feels like someone pretending to be them to stir up shit. These are more the types of asshats people to harass people in person.

I feel like the penalty for this should be

1. Prison time
2. Permanent disbarment from owning guns, holding government office, working in the military/police, or voting(Felons should be allowed to vote. Only maliciously interfering in others right to vote, deliberate voter fraud or a government worker commiting treason should strip you of the right to vote)
3. Permanent restraining order against the person you threatened.
4. If any of the perpetrators are in government office(including police) or are poll workers they should be put to death or given life in prison with no chance of parole.

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CableZL posted...

A spam email can be threatening, yes. This is exactly what's happening in this case.

Imagine actually being angry about spam mail instead of just deleting/ignoring it like a normal person. Life is too short bro, let the anger go lol

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I saw this yesterday. Has there been any actual proof of it at all or is it just suspicion? Cause this could very easily be faked.

Not saying it is fake or not just asking. It'd be easy as shit to stoke the flames on something like this. I mean it wouldn't surprise me at all.

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NoMeLx22x posted...

I saw this yesterday. Has there been any actual proof of it at all or is it just suspicion? Cause this could very easily be faked.

Not saying it is fake or not just asking. It'd be easy as shit to stoke the flames on something like this. I mean it wouldn't surprise me at all.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/10/21/voter-
intimidation-email-origin-under-investigation/6003732002/

But the email sender's address domain, officialproudboys.com, is inactive, and while formerly associated with the Proud Boys organization, control of the website appears to have changed on Oct. 19.
Metadata from the emails also suggests the emails appeared to originate from a server in Estonia: "alioth.elkdata.ee"
ElkData is an Estonian web hosting company.

The investigation found that the emails were spoofing the domain and originated from an email server in Estonia.

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Imagine actually being angry about spam mail instead of just deleting/ignoring it like a normal person. Life is too short bro, let the anger go lol

A spam email being considered threatening has nothing to do with the mood of the recipient.

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Imagine actually being angry about spam mail instead of just deleting/ignoring it like a normal person. Life is too short bro, let the anger go lol

Most spam emails don't have your actual address, party affiliation and name with implied death threats.

I laugh when some dude wants me to send me 100k$ dollar.

I am not laughing when he actually has information on me and threatens me.

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CableZL posted...

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/10/21/voter-
intimidation-email-origin-under-investigation/6003732002/

But the email sender's address domain, officialproudboys.com, is inactive, and while formerly associated with the Proud Boys organization, control of the website appears to have changed on Oct. 19.
Metadata from the emails also suggests the emails appeared to originate from a server in Estonia: "alioth.elkdata.ee"
ElkData is an Estonian web hosting company.

The investigation found that the emails were spoofing the domain and originated from an email server in Estonia.

Probably more Russian election interference. Trying to stir up more chaos.

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CableZL posted...

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/10/21/voter-
intimidation-email-origin-under-investigation/6003732002/

But the email sender's address domain, officialproudboys.com, is inactive, and while formerly associated with the Proud Boys organization, control of the website appears to have changed on Oct. 19.
Metadata from the emails also suggests the emails appeared to originate from a server in Estonia: "alioth.elkdata.ee"
ElkData is an Estonian web hosting company.

The investigation found that the emails were spoofing the domain and originated from an email server in Estonia.

Oh okay so it literally is somebody/group of people stoking the flames? That's what I'm getting out of this.

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TIL registering republican means you have to vote for Trump.

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NoMeLx22x posted...

Oh okay so it literally is somebody/group of people stoking the flames? That's what I'm getting out of this.

Russian bots as usual

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pikachupwnage posted...

pikachupwnage posted...

I am not laughing when he actually has information on me and threatens me.

Words in an email can't hurt you bro, no one is actually threatening you with anything unless they are face to face with you. Jesus when did people become so damn soft?

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Words in an email can't hurt you bro, no one is actually threatening you with anything unless they are face to face with you. Jesus when did people become so damn soft?

No, that kind of stuff should definitely be punished harshly.

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an idea might be to stop feeding the person trolling

Even the Chinese are baffled by how inconvincing that all sounds.

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Words in an email can't hurt you bro, no one is actually threatening you with anything unless they are face to face with you. Jesus when did people become so damn soft?

What? Threats can most definitely be in written form.

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CableZL posted...

What? Threats can most definitely be in written form.

My point is they wouldn't be taken seriously by any sane rational person.

If you TRULY think the Proud Boys are going to show up at your house and physically harm you then you are delusional as hell.

Here's an example, the other day I answered a scam call from a middle eastern guy telling me my Social Security number was being used for drugs and terrorism and shit. I told him to take those drugs and shove them up his ass. He said he was going to kill my mother. I laughed and said good luck buddy. I'm not scared or upset. I just laughed it off.

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I wish those pussy coward motherfuckers would try to intimidate me when I go to vote. I'd love an excuse...

Never gonna happen though because I already voted by mail \_()_/

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

My point is they wouldn't be taken seriously by any sane rational person.

Yes, but there are people who aren't tech savvy who might read that email and think it's serious. In my years of working tech support, I got a number of calls from people who received a weird email thinking it was real.

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DepreceV2 posted...

they wont actually do anything

they'll do something they're not wussies.
if i was the voter. i would vote for biden to piss them off even more.
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CableZL posted...

Yes, but there are people who aren't tech savvy who might read that email and think it's serious. In my years of working tech support, I got a number of calls from people who received a weird email thinking it was real.

At the point if you really thought you were in danger you would call the police right?

No one is going to say HURR DURR I BETTER VOTE TRUMP CUZ THIS EMAIL SAID SO!

My point is these spam emails are pointless and ineffective at achieving their goals. Whoever even came up with the idea is a fucking idiot.

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

At the point if you really thought you were in danger you would call the police right?

No one is going to say HURR DURR I BETTER VOTE TRUMP CUZ THIS EMAIL SAID SO!

My point is these spam emails are pointless and ineffective at achieving their goals. Whoever even came up with the idea is a f***ing idiot.

Some people would, some people wouldn't. Some people aren't sure if they are or aren't in danger after seeing an email like that and will ask someone who is tech savvy (like a tech support rep, for example) for guidance. The way you would handle a situation isn't necessarily the way someone else would handle a situation.

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It's a very common occurence for people working for companies to receive weird emails and forward them to the IT security department for guidance because they aren't sure if the email is real or not.

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CableZL posted...

Some people would, some people wouldn't. Some people aren't sure if they are or aren't in danger after seeing an email like that and will ask someone who is tech savvy (like a tech support rep, for example) for guidance. The way you would handle a situation isn't necessarily the way someone else would handle a situation.

Would you agree that most people would see right through this though? Maybe you don't agree but to me it just feels a bit hyperbolic to freak out about something as dumb as spam mail in 2020.

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Conflict posted...

I'm not sure if you're intentionally being clueless or if you genuinely don't know what 'voter intimidation' is

I've never been intimidated by anything that isn't physically real because I'm not a pussy lol If you feel intimidated by spam email I truly feel sorry for you.

To further clarify, armed citizens at voting booths physically forcing people to vote one way or the other would be actual voter intimidation.

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

I've never been intimidated by anything that isn't physically real because I'm not a pussy lol If you feel intimidated by spam email I truly feel sorry for you.

Nobody here is fooled by this shit but some of the people getting this email are going to be 85 year old people who still fall for "Microsoft support" scam calls and are generally the person you're describing and are the reason why Adult Protection Services exists. This may only affect a few thousand people in the whole country but that could actually be enough to make a difference.

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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Would you agree that most people would see right through this though? Maybe you don't agree but to me it just feels a bit hyperbolic to freak out about something as dumb as spam mail in 2020.

The problem here is that you're refusing to look at it from anyone's viewpoint but your own. Yes, YOU would see thorough this. So would some other people. However, there are a number of people out there who might not see through this because they don't understand technology as well and assume it's real.

The reason the Nigerian email scam has been going for so long is because they actually convince people to send them money. Not you. Not anyone you know, but there are people out there who actually get fooled by them.

Banks have protocols to warn their customers against doing this if they suspect this might be going on. Most companies out there worth their salt have IT security departments that regularly review suspicious emails their users send them.

And again, it's not about "Freaking out about a spam email." It's about understanding the fact that some people might think that email is real and do as the email instructs.

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Anything you can just block, delete and ignore at anytime is far from a threat in any way, shape, or form.

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Wait a minute, I saw that same exact shit yesterday, except it said registered Republican, or whatever and change to Democrat, or give up. Someone be trolling, and everyone falling for it.

Here it is

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1318816744065040384

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ITT: some guy acting like he doesn't know that elderly people don't understand things clearly all the time and get scammed constantly.

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These BOYS are so PROUD

Prismsblade posted...

Anything you can just block, delete and ignore at anytime is far from a threat in any way, shape, or form.

An email can contain threatening language regardless of what you do with it.

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Sheiky-Baby posted...

Wait a minute, I saw that same exact shit yesterday, except it said registered Republican, or whatever and change to Democrat, or give up. Someone be trolling, and everyone falling for it.

Here it is

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1318816744065040384

Lmao I hope youre not posting this unironically

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