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Unsugarized_Foo
10/25/20 8:42:33 PM
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Are you?


Won't happen, but it'd be funny

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Antifar
10/25/20 8:44:01 PM
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I'd still be in favor of getting rid of it.
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Master_Bass
10/25/20 8:44:26 PM
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Antifar posted...
I'd still be in favor of getting rid of it.


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mach25687
10/25/20 8:45:21 PM
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Antifar posted...
I'd still be in favor of getting rid of it.


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ThanksUglyGod
10/25/20 8:45:32 PM
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Antifar posted...
I'd still be in favor of getting rid of it.

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Tappor
10/25/20 8:46:35 PM
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Just because I like the result doesn't make it a fair one.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/25/20 8:47:28 PM
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I don't even think this is mathematically possible at this point
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NobleWill8
10/25/20 9:41:30 PM
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Crud, voted wrong, add me to the "Trump would deserve it"

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InhumaneRaider
10/25/20 9:43:16 PM
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Lmfao, no way he loses the Popular Vote. Democrats have taken the popular vote, how many election cycles?

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Antifar
10/25/20 9:46:32 PM
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InhumaneRaider posted...
Lmfao, no way he loses the Popular Vote. Democrats have taken the popular vote, how many election cycles?

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I Like Toast
10/25/20 9:48:57 PM
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i'm not against it now, it allows your vote to carry more power. It's easier to flip a state then flip a country. It also forces presidents to campaign in less populated areas so their focus isn't just New York City, Southern California, Central Texas, and Chicago.

I do support a redistribution of votes to more accurately reflect population and i have no qualms with eliminating winner takes all for states.

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averagejoel
10/25/20 9:50:40 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
it allows your vote to carry more power
that is false

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InhumaneRaider
10/25/20 9:51:45 PM
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Antifar posted...
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VTBM
10/25/20 9:52:54 PM
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I was never against it.

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-Unowninator-
10/25/20 9:53:58 PM
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I don't care how Biden wins, as long as he wins. We need that asshole out of office pronto.
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The-Apostle
10/25/20 9:54:16 PM
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I'd still be in favor of keeping it.

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Intro2Logic
10/25/20 9:54:46 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
It also forces presidents to campaign in less populated areas so their focus isn't just New York City, Southern California, Central Texas, and Chicago.
It doesn't really do this, though; wide swaths of the country go basically unnoticed during the campaign.
https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1317807945376288768/photo/1

And under a popular vote candidates would be wise to spend money in smaller markets where, per-person, it costs less to advertise.

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I Like Toast
10/25/20 11:36:04 PM
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averagejoel posted...
that is false

I Like Toast posted...
It's easier to flip a state then flip a country.

Intro2Logic posted...
It doesn't really do this, though; wide swaths of the country go basically unnoticed during the campaign.

by showing a lot of under populated areas that are getting attention?

and you're showing me a graph that's telling me both parties are ignoring California and Texas let's me know your data is horse shit to begin with.
Intro2Logic posted...


And under a popular vote candidates would be wise to spend money in smaller markets where, per-person, it costs less to advertise.

and yet absolutely no one advertises that way. go figure huh?

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Bleuets
10/25/20 11:38:40 PM
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I prefer the electoral college, regardless of if the person I vote for wins.
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Boombam99
10/25/20 11:41:24 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I don't even think this is mathematically possible at this point

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uwnim
10/25/20 11:42:04 PM
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I Like Toast posted...


and yet absolutely no one advertises that way. go figure huh?
Yeah, because the electoral college makes that a waste of resources. No one is advertising to a small population in a state that is a lock for the opponent. But in a popular vote system, there's now value in picking up votes from places like that.

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I Like Toast
10/25/20 11:43:17 PM
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uwnim posted...
Yeah, because the electoral college makes that a waste of resources

advertisment isn't limited to politics. no one focuses on where they can get the least eyes on them.

uwnim posted...
there's now value in picking up votes from places like that.


and there isn't. Do you try to get 3 million votes in LA or 10 votes in bumfuck wyoming in an election that's decided by millions of votes. If they felt there was value in wyoming, they would be there now trying to get that state to flip because

I Like Toast posted...
It's easier to flip a state then flip a country


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TostitosTheHero
10/25/20 11:45:19 PM
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10/25/20 11:45:33 PM
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averagejoel
10/25/20 11:45:40 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
It's easier to flip a state then flip a country.
do you agree that the votes of five people inside a large church should not count for more than the votes of five people inside a small apartment?

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I Like Toast
10/25/20 11:46:41 PM
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averagejoel posted...
do you agree that the votes of five people inside a large church should not count for more than the votes of five people inside a small apartment?

I Like Toast posted...


I do support a redistribution of votes to more accurately reflect population and i have no qualms with eliminating winner takes all for states.


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uwnim
10/25/20 11:47:15 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
advertisment isn't limited to politics. no one focuses on where they can get the least eyes on them.
If you are going outside of politics, then they absolutely do do that though.

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I Like Toast
10/25/20 11:50:15 PM
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they absolutely don't when they can afford to target the larger markets.

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KILBOTz
10/25/20 11:57:31 PM
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Even when it results in presidents i dont like, i support the electoral college. I don't want another 4 years of trump, but if he legitimately gets it, I will take that compared to changing the system.

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uwnim
10/26/20 12:03:10 AM
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I Like Toast posted...
they absolutely don't when they can afford to target the larger markets.
They do both. After you got a decent amount of ads in a large and expensive market, you get better returns by placing ads in multiple smaller and cheaper markets than you would by buying even more ads in your large market.

Like lets go back to wyoming. Currently, if the democrats would put a whole lot of effort/money into it to double their 2016 votes. They'd still lose the state and the money would be wasted. While the amount of resources to get like say 10 or 20% more votes would be significantly less and have value in a popular vote situation.

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hockeybub89
10/26/20 12:03:37 AM
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Garioshi
10/26/20 12:03:41 AM
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Yes, because I'm not a hack.

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PMarth2002
10/26/20 12:24:16 AM
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Antifar posted...
I'd still be in favor of getting rid of it.


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FL81
10/26/20 12:47:01 AM
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No, I'm still in favor of keeping it

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pauIie
10/26/20 12:49:23 AM
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Antifar posted...
I'd still be in favor of getting rid of it.


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I Like Toast
10/26/20 1:07:33 AM
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uwnim posted...


Like lets go back to wyoming. Currently, if the democrats would put a whole lot of effort/money into it to double their 2016 votes. They'd still lose the state and the money would be wasted. While the amount of resources to get like say 10 or 20% more votes would be significantly less and have value in a popular vote situation.

and in a popular vote situtation instead of winning by 2,868,686 votes they'd have won by 2,924,659. Wow so worth the investment.

Please list all these national companies doing localized ads for bumfuck wyoming since you claimed they're doing it all the time.

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Gwynevere
10/26/20 1:56:28 AM
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I'd still be against it, it's out of date at this point

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Heineken14
10/26/20 2:05:02 AM
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I would laugh my ass off all the way to the bank. But ultimately I would still want to get rid of it.

No change in hell that scenario would ever happen though.
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