Current Events > 360 had a 54% failure rate and there was no recall

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imagine buying a tv with 54% failure rate and the manufacturer is like "ok we'll fix it as many times as it needs to be fixed in a 3 year period. but we will not replace it with a newer model. sorry you have to keep the model with the permanent defect. get ready to have fun when 3 years is up."

gaming consumers get so royally fucked by weak ass fanboys who defend these companies.

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The Microsoft fan boys really bent over and provided extra lube during that time.

To the point they felt like a beaten by their domestic partner and gave up on the one.

....................lol.......................

it was actually a >90% failure rate on the ones made during the first 2 years of the generation, some of them just took a lot longer to buckle

it was an inherent heatsink design flaw or something, they were actually made aware of it pre-launch but sent them out anyway

EngineerGamer posted...

it was an inherent heatsink design flaw or something, they were actually made aware of it pre-launch but sent them out anyway

MS are such fucking scumbags. but the real problem is the fanboys.

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Where are you getting 54% from?

I went thru 3 in 12 months lmao

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Furthermore bith my Xbones faced debilitating defects ages ago. One had it's hdmi port go bad, and the other won't connect to wireless controllers at all.

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Which is why I didn't buy an Xbox One, nor will I buy their next console.

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It was so bad you could blame any problem on RRoD and they'd send you a new 360
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Why are we talking about a console that was released 15 years ago?

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i can believe it. i had my launch 360 "repaired" by microsoft twice before i just gave up. i remember almost throwing it out a window the second time since it happened literally the day halo 3 came out.

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Its the console that made me switch to Playstation full time

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EngineerGamer posted...

it was actually a >90% failure rate on the ones made during the first 2 years of the generation, some of them just took a lot longer to buckle

it was an inherent heatsink design flaw or something, they were actually made aware of it pre-launch but sent them out anyway

The flaw was with the soldering. There was a recently passed law making lead solder illegal and so alternatives were going through some growing pains. The solder they use would expand when the Xbox was used and then crack during cooling. Repeat this process enough times and eventually two soldered joints touch and game over for Xbox.

Playstation 3 had the same problem but lasted much longer.

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I vividly remember wrapping my 360 in a towel just so I could play Guitar Hero III

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Naysaspace posted...

Where are you getting 54% from?

https://www.theregister.com/2009/08/24/msoft_survey_response/

voldothegr8 posted...

It was so bad you could blame any problem on RRoD and they'd send you a new 360

a "new" 360 that also had the permanent design flaw

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DepreceV2 posted...

Why are we talking about a console that was released 15 years ago?

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this made me feel so damn old. there's no way it has been 15 years lol

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i bought 3 xbox 360's in a 5 year period
they all broke

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They were like ticking time bombs imo. Work for a while then you either have to wait a couple weeks to get one that would get out or pay for a refurbished one that would also crap out

Probably the worst and least reliable console I ever had

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DepreceV2 posted...

Why are we talking about a console that was released 15 years ago?

they used go mod people who posted about the failure rate

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Tyranthraxus posted...

The flaw was with the soldering. There was a recently passed law making lead solder illegal and so alternatives were going through some growing pains. The solder they use would expand when the Xbox was used and then crack during cooling. Repeat this process enough times and eventually two soldered joints touch and game over for Xbox.

Playstation 3 had the same problem but lasted much longer.

That was an urban legend, but for the PS3 anyway it was recently shown that almost all failures were due to a subset of bad capacitors.

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ModLogic posted...

a "new" 360 that also had the permanent design flaw

I'm sure it was refurbished but I sent mine in because the disc drive busted and said it was RRoD, they sent me a "new" like model that lasted the rest of its active life. I think they had a permanent fix by then.
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I was genuinely shocked at how long mine lasted.

Got it for Christmas 2006. RROD in March 2010.

That thing was on nearly 24/7 for like two months when Halo 3 came out.

It red ringed while watching the last season of Heroes on Netflix

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In retrospect it's pretty shocking how bad console hardware was built that generation for the launch models. I can't think of any other generations that had it that bad.

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Bought mine used from a friend in 08. Died 2 months later and microsoft still replaced it. Never had the issue with the replacement.

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They were all bad. At least the initial ones. Mine died halfway through mass effect 3. Took that sucker apart, fixed it, couldn't put it back together, but still finished the game. That's the last I played that piece of junk.

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ModLogic posted...

https://www.theregister.com/2009/08/24/msoft_survey_response/

a "new" 360 that also had the permanent design flaw

So your source is an unscientific survey?

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My 360, PS3, and Wii all needed to be sent for repair/replacement.

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My original model lasted right around 3 years. I replaced it with the 360 S model a decade ago (which has seen way more use) and its still doing fine.

Same thing happened with the PS2, which a lot of people seem to have forgotten. The original model of the PS2 was fucking garbage-- mine & everyone I knew all broke at least once within a year or so of purchase. After sending mine back to the factory twice for the disk read error, I just said fuck it when it broke a third time-- by then the Slim model had come out, so I just replaced it.

vigorm0rtis posted...

So your source is an unscientific survey?

Per wikipedia, the warranty repair provider estimated the failure rate at 23.7%.

pfh1001 posted...

Per wikipedia, the warranty repair provider estimated the failure rate at 23.7%.

Still atrocious, but a long way from 54%.

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Remember the towel trick.

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LivingLegend posted...

Just wrap your 360 in towels and leave it on all night and it will fix itself.

lol

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I traded in my RROD'd 360 at gamestop for one of the Elites and got a game with it for free lol
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turn 360 degrees

Man this is a great thread, the responses fill me with joy. If you didn't have a red ring of death or a friend who got one, did you even have a childhood?

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for what it's worth my xbox one has taken this gen like a champ

ps4 sounds like a hair dryer though >_>

vigorm0rtis posted...

Still atrocious, but a long way from 54%.

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And it still turned out to be the best console of that gen

My disk drive failed on 3 different 360s. No RROD though

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This is why when gamers pre-order anything I'm like

:) ??? :) ???????? :) ? :) ??

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What's the towel trick?
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Microsoft even admitted that they were all defective, if I remember correctly

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ModLogic posted...

vigorm0rtis posted...

Still atrocious, but a long way from 54%.

That doesn't back up your 54% claim either.
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And here I am with my launch 360 that still runs just fine.

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LivingLegend posted...

Just wrap your 360 in towels and leave it on all night and it will fix itself.

I did this to the 2nd one that rrod'd on me, got it working then went to gamestop and got credit for it then went to a different gamestop and got a xbox360 alim.

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When I got a 360 and it red ringed (twice) the store gave me a new one for free both times.

I always was nervous they were going to refuse and blame me the second time but they didn't they were just like "Yeah these 360s are awful"

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harley2280 posted...

That doesn't back up your 54% claim either.

exept the source for the "23.7%" claim specifically says their data only shows malfunctions directly reported to them and that due to MS policy there is under reporting of RRoD to them.

i like how the loyal xbots still try to defend MS, when even MS themselves acknowledged game informers survey results while NEVER disputing the figures. the failure rate of the problematic launch models were probably even higher than 54%.

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ModLogic posted...

exept the source for the "23.7%" claim specifically says their data only shows malfunctions directly reported to them and that due to MS policy there is under reporting of RRoD to them.

i like how the loyal xbots still try to defend MS, when even MS themselves acknowledged game informers survey results while NEVER disputing the figures. the failure rate of the problematic launch models were probably even higher than 54%.

The 1st console that RRoD on me, I reported to microsoft and I sent it to them and they sent me a new console.
The 2nd one it was after that window of time where they'd replace it so I never reported it to them.

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