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JBaLLEN66
11/05/20 2:27:48 PM
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Florida's loss means that De Santis has full reign to not obey Covid guidelines in Florida.

The Senate was retained, this can severely hurt Biden's chances of doing anything. As a result, the progressives will be more rabid in 2024 if the Dems do move left enough and the republicans will have more ammo in 2024.

Trumpism was not defeated, it was strengthened. Trump can still win this election with a 4 million popular vote deficit right now, and all it takes is some Putin/Trump candidate that doesn't do childish **** like blatantly call science fake, attack potential votes, and handle literally anything like a 2 year old toddler and this country is doomed in 2024.

Bottom-line, the country is screwed and I would still go to Canada :(


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BudDupree48
11/05/20 2:28:45 PM
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How bad do they lose if he doesn't win tho

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SevenTenths
11/05/20 2:28:48 PM
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Remember when you kept saying Biden couldn't win Arizona

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IMNOTRAGED
11/05/20 2:33:23 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
all it takes is some Putin/Trump candidate that doesn't do childish **** like blatantly call science fake, attack potential votes, and handle literally anything like a 2 year old toddler and this country is doomed in 2024.

This is highly unlikely to happen because all of those traits are inherent to fascism. The insistence that they are the final authority on all things in opposition to science and progressive culture is a large part of what gives them their support.

Not to say that they can't still do a great deal of harm (they probably will!) but I think this idea that there's gonna be some sort of super Trump is a bit flawed

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JBaLLEN66
11/05/20 2:33:48 PM
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BudDupree48 posted...
How bad do they lose if he doesn't win tho

That depends on who the Republicans run in 2024, if it is a typical moderate republican than that's doable if it is a Putin than unfortunately it is over.

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MaxEffingBemis
11/05/20 2:34:57 PM
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I mean I kind of agree but I also dont like you tc

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pepper2012
11/05/20 2:35:16 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Remember when you kept saying Biden couldn't win Arizona

he hasnt yet

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JBaLLEN66
11/05/20 2:35:51 PM
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IMNOTRAGED posted...
This is highly unlikely to happen because all of those traits are inherent to fascism. The insistence that they are the final authority on all things in opposition to science and progressive culture is a large part of what gives them their support.

Not to say that they can't still do a great deal of harm (they probably will!) but I think this idea that there's gonna be some sort of super Trump is a bit flawed

I agree, but what I meant was Trump's approach to doing these were childish and brash. You can call science fake without sounding like 2 year old toddler like Trump did.

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Evening_Dragon
11/05/20 2:36:48 PM
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Doomer nonsense is just a kneejerk defense mechanism. "It can't hurt me if I anticipate how much it will suck!"

It's just weakness of personality. Cut it out.

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JBaLLEN66
11/05/20 2:38:52 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
Doomer nonsense is just a kneejerk defense mechanism. "It can't hurt me if I anticipate how much it will suck!"

It's just weakness of personality. Cut it out.

and ostrich head in the sand nonsense isn't either?

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ledbowman
11/05/20 2:41:26 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
and ostrich head in the sand nonsense isn't either?
they can't admit you're right so they just hand wave it

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AngelsNAirwav3s
11/05/20 2:44:00 PM
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If Biden wins, he will probably be the first Democrat since the 1880s to be elected President and not have control of both houses of congress

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Funkydog
11/05/20 2:46:25 PM
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America's future is grim even if Biden wins, but it's infinitely better than the alternative.

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DoctorPiranha3
11/05/20 2:46:46 PM
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Funkydog posted...
America's future is grim even if Biden wins, but it's infinitely better than the alternative.

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JBaLLEN66
11/05/20 2:52:14 PM
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Funkydog posted...
America's future is grim even if Biden wins, but it's infinitely better than the alternative.

This is why it is good to know the upcoming issues ahead of time. We know Mitch the **** will **** block the Senate, we know the progressive wing will get uppity if their answers aren't heard, and we know Trump is going to win 5 million plus more votes in a statement election.

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ledbowman
11/05/20 2:52:16 PM
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Evening_Dragon
11/05/20 2:53:32 PM
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ledbowman posted...
they can't admit you're right so they just hand wave it

You were quite sure about Trump's win not long ago. You are, as the youth these days would put it, "coping".

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whoa123
11/05/20 2:53:41 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Remember when you kept saying Biden couldn't win Arizona

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JBaLLEN66
11/05/20 2:56:31 PM
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ledbowman posted...
https://twitter.com/AliMortell/status/1324413337866850306?s=19

but I thought the Dems were scary socialists to cubans, now they are corporate hacks?

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ledbowman
11/05/20 2:57:03 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
You were quite sure about Trump's win not long ago. You are, as the youth these days would put it, "coping".
i don't give a fuck about trump and that has nothing to do with this anyway

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Damn_Underscore
11/05/20 2:58:24 PM
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Democrats are supposed to win the Senate in 2022 anyway.

What will be interesting is to see how Biden works with McConnell.

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JBaLLEN66
11/05/20 3:00:18 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Democrats are supposed to win the Senate in 2022 anyway.

What will be interesting is to see how Biden works with McConnell.

I've been hearing this **** for the past 10 years

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hockeybub89
11/05/20 3:01:29 PM
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Damn_Underscore
11/05/20 3:04:47 PM
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In the first half of Bush's first term he had the exact same scenario. Republican House and Democratic Senate.

Then in the next two quarters of his presidency he had a Republican majority in both houses.

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COVxy
11/05/20 3:05:30 PM
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mrgoatthief posted...
Funny how much this would have been a stomp if only Biden had embraced marijuana reform vileplume

He, uh, did.

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Damn_Underscore
11/05/20 3:11:51 PM
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COVxy posted...
He, uh, did.

He didn't make it a strong part of his campaign. He probably doesn't care if it gets legalized, and Trump probably doesn't care either, but Biden sort of made a side mention about decriminalizing it IIRC and Trump said nothing.

You could get a lot of votes by making it a major part of your campaign.

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COVxy
11/05/20 3:14:44 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
He didn't make it a strong part of his campaign. He probably doesn't care if it gets legalized, and Trump probably doesn't care either, but Biden sort of made a side mention about decriminalizing it IIRC and Trump said nothing.

You could get a lot of votes by making it a major part of your campaign.

He made it a big part of he criminal justice and racial justice plan. Talked a lot about decriminalizing marijuana and expunging marijuana arrests as a way to combat systemic oppression in the US.

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