Current Events > Tbh the Trump administration wasn't that bad...

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Trump supporters are also very conveniently blind to his blatant racist enabling.

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What's your opinion on Trump stabbing the Kurds in the back since you seem to love his foreign policy?

Slaya4 posted...

The reason I disagree with that is because his big ups were HUGE, but he has a lot of small issues that add up.

You have those backwards. The positive things he did were extremely minor, and they were few and far between at that. He did some massive horrible things too, as well as many minor terrible things

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CableZL posted...

Again, weird take to say "if covid never happened" as a reason and not "If Trump hadn't mismanaged covid."

The US has had the worst response to the pandemic globally.

Semantics to say the same thing doesn't move the conversation forward. Nobody is denying any of those things. Trump handled covid bad period. It doesn't negate that he would have gotten 2 terms if it never happened or if he handled it better. Which is my point that Trump's administration wasn't THAT bad.

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HUD under Ben Carson also rolled back a lot of trans protections. The big one being allowing gender-segregated emergency shelters not getting federal funding to shelter/not-shelter transgender people on the base of their biological sex versus their gender identity.

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it was definitely at its worst at the start, when they still had that ghoul Bannon in there

Conflict posted...

You're clearly not informed on anything TC, just admit defeat

Not really, people are just calling me a troll for saying something they don't agree with. Nothing new.

I'm more so than happy to hear why I'm not informed, but most of the criticisms that have been posted is rooted from the Obama administration. I'm strictly talking about the Trump administration.

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Slaya4 posted...

I mean, the dude isn't Jesus. We can do this with every President, and let's be frank, he didn't start these issues. His administration was no better or worse than the last 2 Presidencies.

-He has gotten as close to if not closer than Bill Clinton with peace talks with Israel/Palestine
-Got out of the dumpster fire Iran deal that supported killing american troops
-Fitst president in my lifetime that has not started a war

I mean, let's be honest. Anyone else would have been granted a Noble Peace Prize for that.

A) How many other people have been given Nobel Peace Prizes for "not starting wars"?
B) Doesn't making things significantly worse with NK override peace between Israel and Palestine?
C) Where in the Iran deal did it support killing US troops?
D) How do these three things make it overrall "not too bad"?

Veggeta X posted...

Trump supporters are also very conveniently blind to his blatant racist enabling.

they arent blind to that
its why they support him

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Why is TC ignoring me?

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Veggeta X posted...

Why is TC ignoring me?

Because everyone in Congress is a racist. Voting for Biden is enabling racist behavior

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His administration is TERRIBLE.

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dotsdfe posted...

Last place.

Or at least bottom five.

It's almost staggering how bad he truly was. He failed up and down, broke nearly every promise he made, demolished foreign relations, and most notably really botched the coronavirus response.

It's funny, when you look at the counter of how many promises he kept... There's actually quite a few, but they are meaningless shit like putting Merry Christmas on the white house greeting card.

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Im convinced that his handling of the corona is what got him booted.

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Also there's more to the Military aspect of DIME than just "starting wars". He has weakened our alliances overseas and undone decades of US foreign policy in places like Syria and Afghanistan.

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Musourenka posted...

HUD under Ben Carson also rolled back a lot of trans protections. The big one being allowing gender-segregated emergency shelters not getting federal funding to shelter/not-shelter transgender people on the base of their biological sex versus their gender identity.

Yes, I agree this was fucking stupid too. Hopefully, this gets removed. While I don't agree with transgenderism it's beyond dumb to treat them like second hand citizens. This is a big hinderence to him for me personally.

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Slaya4 posted...

Because everyone in Congress is a racist. Voting for Biden is enabling racist behavior

Pretty sure the Proud Boys and KKK won't be celebrating for Biden winning.

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obama built the cages. just keeping everybody honest

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ledbowman posted...

obama built the cages. just keeping everybody honest

Huh? Explain.

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ledbowman posted...

obama built the cages. just keeping everybody honest

Trump had the power to stop using them. Instead, he made the program worse.

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ledbowman posted...

obama built the cages. just keeping everybody honest

That's tame compared to Trump's Administration systematically separating parents from their children at the border. Obama didn't decide that.

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Jabodie posted...

It was way worse than what I expected when he was elected. I'll say that much.

This

I was one of the people saying "yeah he's kind of fucking crazy but let's just give him a chance, the system of checks and balances won't let him fuck things up that bad"

So naive

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littlebro07 posted...

This

I was one of the people saying "yeah he's kind of fucking crazy but let's just give him a chance, the system of checks and balances won't let him fuck things up that bad"

So naive

His character, background and lack of any political background over the decades should've been a huge red flag for many. This is beyond naivete, just pure ignorance. People only voted for this fucker because he's Republican, charismatic, and always speaks his mind

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trump was insanely bad on foreign policy and possibly the worst of all time on domestic policy. he was blatantly putins bitch and allowed bounties on our soldiers while doing nothing about it

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And to be clear

Donald Trump is one of the dumbest mother fuckers I've ever seen

Holy shit

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CableZL posted...

And to be clear

Donald Trump is one of the dumbest mother fuckers I've ever seen

Holy shit

he is dumb and evil which is a really bad combination

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No TC, the Trump admin was so bad that it took a record amount of votes for his opponent to put Trump outta office. Forget that 70 million individuals voted for Trump, their opinions are all false and irrelevant because they are white supremacists, my opinion is objectively true and I have the moral high ground over those 70 million people.

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Kazi1212 posted...

No TC, the Trump admin was so bad that it took a record amount of votes for his opponent to put Trump outta office. Forget that 70 million individuals voted for Trump, their opinions are all false and irrelevant because they are white supremacists, my opinion is objectively true and I have the moral high ground over those 70 million people.

Yeah, when people support Nazis it becomes less reprehensible the more people that do it

ButteryMales posted...

Yeah, when people support Nazis it becomes less reprehensible the more people that do it

indeed. Most fascists in history received almost half the votes of their people like Trump did. All the fascist regimes also had almost half the people in their nation supporting them like Trump has. Over 70 million people in the states are pure evil for supporting this man, sad!

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Kazi1212 posted...

indeed. Most fascists in history received almost half the votes of their people like Trump did. All the fascist regimes also had almost half the people in their nation supporting them like Trump has. Over 70 million people in the states are pure evil for supporting this man, sad!

You seem willfully ignorant of history.

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Kazi1212 posted...

No TC, the Trump admin was so bad that it took a record amount of votes for his opponent to put Trump outta office. Forget that 70 million individuals voted for Trump, their opinions are all false and irrelevant because they are white supremacists, my opinion is objectively true and I have the moral high ground over those 70 million people.

I don't know what you're trying to say here. 74+ million > 70 million, so it's not exactly a controversial opinion to have.

He single handedly ruined the US position in foreign relations

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YoungMutual posted...

He single handedly ruined the US position in foreign relations

who needs other countries we r MERICA!

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Slaya4 posted...

Trump himself though...<______<. Probably would have been in his favor if he deleted his Twitter.

235,000+ dead Americans disagrees with you

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For people saying it's Trump's fault that 200,000 people could have died...what could we have done about it? I know people are going to say that we handled it the worst, but that doesn't answer the question. What could we have really done about it?
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CableZL posted...

https://i.imgur.com/NBsCaaD.png

They were fucking terrible.

Can you explain what this is / means?

Willfully ignorant here.

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Chunkey Simmons posted...

For people saying it's Trump's fault that 200,000 people could have died...what could we have done about it? I know people are going to say that we handled it the worst, but that doesn't answer the question. What could we have really done about it?

Do you even read the news?

The Obama administration had an office set up specifically to handle epidemiology issues. Trump disbanded that.

The Obama administration, which had experience with multiple epidemics, wrote a play-by-play guide for the government to follow. The Trump administration never validated that guide and basically just threw it out the window.

Trump irrefutably (this is literally documented) downplayed the significance of the virus and encouraged people to just live how they want to live without taking serious measures to slow the spread of the virus.

He refused to declare a state of emergency, slowing down the federal government's ability to deploy aid to necessary locations.

He appointed his Vice President (who has zero medical experience) and son-in-law and several other unqualified people to head his response team.

He politicized a pandemic and turned it into a "red vs blue" issue. He intentionally made the aid relief system unnecessarily convoluted and unclear, especially for "blue states".

He has peddled snake oil treatments while criticizing the scientists and doctors who have legitimate knowledge to share with the public.

He withdrew funding from WHO.

He used racially charged language to describe the virus, which arguably spurred racially charged attacks against people who have Asian features.

For the first month or two he used the pandemic as a platform to inflate his self-importance instead of letting qualified, experienced professionals report on the information.

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Don't expect this board to be anything other than the establishment Democratic narrative. Same with the mods.

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Hexenherz posted...

He appointed his Vice President (who has zero medical experience) and son-in-law and several other unqualified people to head his response team.

Let's not forget that when Pence was governor of Indiana, he made the HIV outbreak worse then what it was. So putting hin in charge of the response team was bullshit.

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Trump committed so many crimes in office that Americans stopped trying to keep up.

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superXY posted...

Don't expect this board to be anything other than the establishment Democratic narrative. Same with the mods.

Wahhhhh!

Cry more....

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What could Hilary have done with Covid to make it better. IN this random ass time we're in you never know she have made it a bit better or worse so....

waterjoe posted...

What could Hilary have done with Covid to make it better. IN this random ass time we're in you never know she have made it a bit better or worse so....

Look at the list of what I posted above, she would have done the opposite of that.

There would still be casualties and the situation wouldn't be perfect but I would bet money on the idea that we wouldn't have hit 200k by now.

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waterjoe posted...

What could Hilary have done with Covid to make it better. IN this random ass time we're in you never know she have made it a bit better or worse so....

Not do any of the stuff in post #89

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Of course it wasn't. Remember how World War III was gonna start, because of him? It was just like any other president. When Biden takes over it ain't gonna be that different.

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Concentration camps on US soil detaining people who were legally seeking asylum.

That's "not so bad"? If anything, this needs to be focused on way more than Coronavirus.
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Hexenherz posted...

Do you even read the news?

The Obama administration had an office set up specifically to handle epidemiology issues. Trump disbanded that.

The Obama administration, which had experience with multiple epidemics, wrote a play-by-play guide for the government to follow. The Trump administration never validated that guide and basically just threw it out the window.

Trump irrefutably (this is literally documented) downplayed the significance of the virus and encouraged people to just live how they want to live without taking serious measures to slow the spread of the virus.

He refused to declare a state of emergency, slowing down the federal government's ability to deploy aid to necessary locations.

He appointed his Vice President (who has zero medical experience) and son-in-law and several other unqualified people to head his response team.

He politicized a pandemic and turned it into a "red vs blue" issue. He intentionally made the aid relief system unnecessarily convoluted and unclear, especially for "blue states".

He has peddled snake oil treatments while criticizing the scientists and doctors who have legitimate knowledge to share with the public.

He withdrew funding from WHO.

He used racially charged language to describe the virus, which arguably spurred racially charged attacks against people who have Asian features.

For the first month or two he used the pandemic as a platform to inflate his self-importance instead of letting qualified, experienced professionals report on the information.

while i appreciate the effort, do you actually expect any of the bad faith trolls here to acknowledge your points

Reis posted...

while i appreciate the effort, do you actually expect any of the bad faith trolls here to acknowledge your points

No I don't know why I waste my time.

I know they're either going to ignore it

or respond with a bunch of irrelevant facts or distortion of information by redefining things.

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Hexenherz posted...

No I don't know why I waste my time.

I know they're either going to ignore it

or respond with a bunch of irrelevant facts or distortion of information by redefining things.

It's fine. Other would look at this and appreciate what you've stated.

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