Board 8 > Fuck 2020 Mafia: Topic 3 - You Know The Thing

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Leanansidhe posted...

I don't think Red is currently scum but I'm getting to the point I don't care if he's lynched. At least then I can read less.............this

well aren't you just a bad player.

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Anyway, onto a few idle thoughts on bigger names.

Han hasn't been around enough for me to feel much one way or another. Hes basically coasted when hes been here from what I can recall.

Scare I thought might have been town scare that recognized town red. Now hes probably more in the pile of "Scum Scare that tried to pocket red then said fuck it and thought he might as well get red lynched".

Chris hasn't been engaged in the topic at all. People are following him for...reasons(?) at this point. There isn't actually a good reason at this point. Disinterested chris is more typical scum chris. People -shouldnt- follow him at this point as he should be lean scum for everyone at this point. Possible he has a safelist claim(Or real flavor even), maybe a scum role, he thinks he can coast with. Lynching red and not backing off at this point is a huge red flag, especially with time ticking down on the day.

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Wet Ass VOTALS:
[6] red - Chris, (IGCD), Han, plum, Scare, ben, Tange
[4] DYL - (Chris), (IGCD), Aecioo, (Scare), IGCD, Stan, dowolf
[1] Han - Lea, (DYL), (Stan), (Stan)
[1] ben - (puns), Crescent, (DYL)
[1] IGCD - red
[1] dowolf - (plum), DYL
[0] plum - (red), (Hb), (Stan)
[0] Hb - (dowolf)
[0] pjbasis - (Lea), (red)
[0] Scare - (puns), (Johnbobb), (Lea), (DYL), (ben)
[0] Stan - (Han)
[0] Chris - (Scare)
[0] puns - (Hb)
[0] banananor - (Johnbobb)

WITH 21 ALIVE IT TAKES 11 TO LYNCH. DAY ENDS AT 7 PM CST TONIGHT (ROUGHLY 3 HOURS FROM NOW)!

Votal updates will be semi-sporadic until roughly about 30 minutes before deadline when I will be around to provide constant updates.

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Leanansidhe posted...

Yes yes everyone sucks but you I get it

I've asked for an actual reason to lynch me and no one has given me anything. how the hell do I defend that.

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Leanansidhe posted...

Yes yes everyone sucks but you I get it

Also no, the only people I've said suck are DYL and Plum.

Plum does suck. He knows I think he sucks. I've said repeatedly game after game he sucks. This isn't new.

DYL has his own reputation. It also sucks. I think hes not as bad as it but hes not being good here. Hes been a parrot these last few pages even.

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I wasn't super interested in lynching you, I was disappointed in not seeing any content earlier and then I did not like your disengaged stance. You claiming disengaged has not been good in the past

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As in i felt better with my vote once yoh claimed disengaged

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Fastbreak posted...

I wasn't super interested in lynching you, I was disappointed in not seeing any content earlier and then I did not like your disengaged stance. You claiming disengaged has not been good in the past

When did I say I was disengaged?

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Leanansidhe posted...

Yes yes everyone sucks but you I get it

Considering you have no problem shit talking other players maybe you should calm dem titties.

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Multiple times today? Disinterested, disengaged, upset you were being called scum so disheartened. Something along those lines that you said you were not interested in putting in work at some point previous

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Fastbreak posted...

Multiple times today? Disinterested, disengaged, upset you were being called scum so disheartened. Something along those lines that you said you were not interested in putting in work at some point previous

No. I said demoralized. I did not say disengaged. Demoralized is -not- disengaged.

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red13n posted...

No. I said demoralized. I did not say disengaged. Demoralized is -not- disengaged.

Does being demoralized not make you disengage?

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Fastbreak posted...

Something along those lines that you said you were not interested in putting in work at some point previous

And no, I never said this. Demoralized is not this.

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Crescent-Moon posted... If there's any summation I'd make of Red as a whole, its that he barely seems to care 4 votes are on him. Didn't call even one person an idiot for voting him or anything.

There's the Red I expected~

I'm sleepy and might try to nap, but Ben's lynch is going nowhere. I have one observation of note.

Han has done absolutely nothing. The only meaningful thing he's done is snap at Red for calling him "disappointing", which was 16-17 hours ago.

<B>##Unvote
##Vote: Han</B>

Bag of uselessness who took a shot at the first person to say anything about it

HanOfTheNekos posted... Feel like the pop on this was a little premature, Chris.

Like what Lea is doing, even though it smells just the tiniest bit like taking an early oppositional stance for me pointing out that a hard change in demeanor like this is more commonly done as Scum.

Been ok with DYL so far but MAN nothing looks worse than him saying I should have stronger reads when his are half, if even, as strong as mine.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Red

I feel like I'm always slow on the draw on Red because I feel like he's always pretty piddling around, as he is this game, but he really is Scum 98% of the time so it's not out-of-character. But man, Red is the master of responding a lot while doing so little.

HanOfTheNekos posted... It's really more the fact that he's said things that make absolutely no sense from a Town perspective. As I said before - no reason to call me making only 2 points "extremely disappointing". That's purely from the angle of trying to downsell me.

It lines up with Red. He's probably Scum, and Red fears me.

This isn't much of a vote and it's been 16 hours of virtually nothing meaningful since then

The quote button appears to only be working a small fraction amount of the time I press it. This is odd.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Does being demoralized not make you disengage?

Obviously fucking not.

(this is red post limit)

Demoralized was the word I was looking for and still fits the bill for what made me feel okay with my vote. Past red using that has not bode well for his alignment in my memory banks

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Your memory bank is just wrong, Scare.

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Oh I did the formatting thing.

##Unvote
##Vote: Han

I would like to hear something resembling a read on anyone because your vote on Red is bad and you haven't done anything.

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I have a very binary read of han at the moment

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Scare do you have a better word than binary for that?

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red13n posted...

Your memory bank is just wrong, Scare.

It wouldn't be the first time. But give me life elsewhere

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You really think I havent had life? You guys are frustrating me to no end with these narratives about me that honestly just dont mesh with what is on paper, btw.

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red13n posted...

Scare do you have a better word than binary for that?

He is town that has been busy which is why I was giving him a day pass , or he is specifically in a scum team that he doesn't personally feel is a fun team to be in

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And yes, I know some of you are scum, no hard feelings. But to the rest of you, holy hell I am literally pulling out hair over this(I have a lot of hair right now, it tangles itself and pulls out easily).

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red13n posted...

You really think I havent had life? You guys are frustrating me to no end with these narratives about me that honestly just dont mesh with what is on paper, btw.

Give *me* life. Give me an alternative lynch and sell me please and thank you

Besides dyl who I'm already fine lynching, and besides han

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Fastbreak posted...

He is town that has been busy which is why I was giving him a day pass , or he is specifically in a scum team that he doesn't personally feel is a fun team to be in

You don't think he could be scum and busy?

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red13n posted...

You don't think he could be scum and busy?

He can be both scum and busy, but as busy scum he would be more mindful of what he is posting if he was trying to engage and make the most of his time. I dont get that

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Ok anyway, important part for that. Because I actually have the feeling that Han has actually been busy. I don't feel like hes making that up because he got really pissy at me calling him out for passing through and posting basically nothing.

I think he made some weird "passed by the secretary" or something post that was particularly dumb. Because in that scenario if I asked that person "Hey have you seen Han" they would answer yes. It was stupid.

But stupid in away that I'd say almost certainly he was upset that I didn't recognize immediately that he was just busy.

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Han is busy, take that at his word.

But the pieces that he has left behind while he has been here point me to town that isn't in groove yet, or disinterested scum

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Fastbreak posted...

Han is busy, take that at his word.

This doesn't mesh with your takes here though Scare. Your own logic is that busy Han is town Han.

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My primary issue with the Red lynch is how many votes on it that I don't like, and I want to see if I can get some of them talking.

Though I have to say I'm not a fan of Death so far, and he's defending Red. Death is a player that I've found I town read a lot and I'm almost always right on when I do. In PW Mafia I obliterated him on the first day when he was scum. In Simpsons I outright wrote off considering him as scum when the game was on the line. He's even commented in the past he feels I'm particularly good at reading him.

I have a scum lean on Death right now.

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Leanansidhe posted...

Yeah. True. I wound up being way meaner this game than I planned to. Sorry to you and anyone else, this game brings out my harsh competitive side. I'll try to be more positive going forward.

I don't personally care all that much. I have no problems with you Lea, just saying don't be a hypocrite. Lol

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Scare were you the one who said they thought Death was scummy?

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Fastbreak posted...

Han is busy, take that at his word.

But the pieces that he has left behind while he has been here point me to town that isn't in groove yet, or disinterested scum

And that's enough for you to not consider him as a viable lynch?

PunishedBen posted...

Scare were you the one who said they thought Death was scummy?

Yes

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Crescent-Moon posted...

My primary issue with the Red lynch is how many votes on it that I don't like, and I want to see if I can get some of them talking.

Though I have to say I'm not a fan of Death so far, and he's defending Red. Death is a player that I've found I town read a lot and I'm almost always right on when I do. In PW Mafia I obliterated him on the first day when he was scum. In Simpsons I outright wrote off considering him as scum when the game was on the line. He's even commented in the past he feels I'm particularly good at reading him.

I have a scum lean on Death right now.

Lol, literally ninja'd by you again. Maybe it was you then who didnt like Death.

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red13n posted...

This doesn't mesh with your takes here though Scare. Your own logic is that busy Han is town Han.

I said he can be busy and scum

But I feel that if he is scum the way he has posted tells me he isnt into his team because it doesn't seem like he cares about how he comes across

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Fastbreak posted...

but as busy scum he would be more mindful of what he is posting if he was trying to engage and make the most of his time. I dont get that

Anyway coming back to this. You think this busy Han is not scum.

I am telling you I am 100% certain Han is actually busy.

You should think Han is town from this, yes?

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As in I expect a busy scum Han to put more effort into the posts he does make. So its telling of where he is at

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Adding busy in my first post was probably redundant and taking away from my point at this stage

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So what you are saying is you saying "binary" was just completely dumb and wrong, then?

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You are basically hard arguing a third option here, lol.

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PunishedBen posted...

Lol, literally ninja'd by you again. Maybe it was you then who didnt like Death.

Scare suspected Death in his first ever post.

Mine's been building because everything seems a bit off. Like that block post where he said almost nothing about anyone. Death's left a lot of windows of mild suspicion open without meaningfully committing to any read. Let me fish that post up again:

htaeD posted... Lea makes for a good case against Han. I also don't think DYL would vote a teammate like that and DYL is impressing me a bit with him staying focused on Han.

When I saw the votals up top, I got a case of deja vu. Since its not the first time Chris went after Red.
So I am surprised to see it was Plum who got the Redtrain started technically. (failing apparently because he forgot to unvote Dowolf)
At the same time though he complains about Han getting voted day1, which just makes me want to ask how many players he does not want to touch day1.

IGCD, Boko and PJ both trying to post again after getting called out is funny, but sadly in character for 2 of them. And Boko I can excuse (for now) due to his line of work.
Aecioo definitely has catching up to do. And Banananananananor is hard to read, but what few posts he makes I at least find charming.

PJ calling out red comes out of nowhere too and Red overreacts to his vote I'd say. And others seem to feel the same way. That said, IGCDs vote is the worst out of that bunch. I disagree that this vote is the same as his vote on DYL. Because that was a page1 jokevote last time I checked, and of course Red would react more to a vote on him.
What I am curious about is why Red does not talk to Chris about his vote. The big Chris/Red feud I remember had Red raging up a storm about Chris being scum for doing it. Red can say that Chris is not giving him something to respond to, but I expect him to fight back anyway.

Honestly Hans vote on Red is not that great either, it reads like he's trying to take advantage of this new movement. Adding not so serious justifications (red is scum 98 % of the time) does not help. At least he does serve up more reasons later, but he could have started with those.

At this point I also feel like Scare is trying to distract from both lynches, or at the very least seems to want to help red stay alive. But then he is so blatant about it, I cant really see it as suspicious activity and more just Scare playing to his preferences.

How much is this post saying? He talks about a lot of people, but most of it is either weak and not well explained, or saying nothing about them. I haven't been able to shake that this doesn't feel like a town Death post.

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Fastbreak posted...

Yes

Oh okay cool. I still dont like that he betrayed the alliance offer instantly. I think he felt awkward about it. It's not much coming from me since I always read Death as scum, but I'm willing to put some stock in your read. And Crescent's.

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The point i wanted to get across is if han is scum i feel confident its with a team he would not find interesting.

At this point I dont think he is more likely to be scum than town though

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