Current Events > Was Obama the most professional president in your lifetime?

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I don't think he had a controversy.

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Oh, he's had more than a couple.

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Vicious_Dios posted...

Oh, he's had more than a couple.

Did it revolve around his personality or professional conduct?

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My lifetime:

George HW
Clinton
W
Obama
Trump

Probably is Obama yeah. Too young to remember HW. Clinton obviously had some scandals that I'm sure I don't need to go into. I remember W having quite a few gaffes. Definitely not Trump lmao

Don't remember any major controversies with Obama.

HW Bush was very professional, though politically he was all over the place

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He drone striked a wedding but it's okay because he didn't mentally implode on a daily basis

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tan suit gate was about as worse as it got

minus some stuff about drone strikes
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I hadn't considered it before but I guess Clinton would have been the most professional until Obama.

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CrimsonRage posted...

being black is not a controversy

drone striking innocent civilian's is a controversy. He also deported more people than trump. Kept Guantanamo open despite his campaign to close it. And the iraq war dragged on into 2011 where isis then predictably popped up.

But the ones that gained news tractions were stupid shit like suit color, golf vacation, or the over exaggeration of benghazi attack (which was more put on hillary).

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He killed a 16 year-old American citizen but it's okay because he can speak in complete sentences

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no

he ate elitist mustard
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I guess, but it's a very low bar. He was just better at being a fake, that's all.

And lol at the no controversy part. He had plenty even if most were fake.

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He gave billions and billions of dollars to the people whose financial crimes nearly broke the Earth but it's okay because he was the kind of guy you could sit down and have a beer with

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He had his share of scandals. Fast & Furious, drones, escalating wars, entering new wars, birthing ISIS, etc. But goddamn can he give a speech or what. That's all you need to do as a President. You act as a spokesman for interests beyond the comprehension of the dumb public. And then you collect 500k speech cheques in perpetuity after you're done committing war crimes.

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He passed Richard Nixon's healthcare plan from the 1970's when he had a supermajority and could do whatever he wanted but it's okay because he was "professional"

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Yes, but the worse Biden does, the farther he will fall. For it is HIS fault that Republican appeaser has any relevance whatsoever.

Biden is his true legacy.
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HW was probably ok?

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Garioshi posted...

He passed Richard Nixon's healthcare plan from the 1970's when he had a supermajority and could do whatever he wanted but it's okay because he was "professional"

He didn't even want to do that without republican votes. The only reason millions more people have Medicaid is Nancy Pelosi

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Didn't he want mustard on a hot dog once and Sean Hannity went out and killed a puppy in response?
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He wore a tan suit. Thats pretty fucked up tbh. Next step is stalin.

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Handsome face, a minority, and a good voice. Came right after Bush. Gotta try extremely hard to fail there.

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Obama was the last president we had sad that we had an empty whitehouse since then he was a hero and a nobel prize winner

I don't condone the bad things Obama has done one regards to people being killed, but collateral damage is unfortunately inevitable in war for all presidents.

At the very least, he meant well and is genuinely a good person. And he is very professional. Don't think his cabinet had any scandals

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Yes,by far.

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His handling of Flints water crisis was as classless and psychopathic as it gets.

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He deported more people than any president before or since
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Far from it

HW

He refused to go after Saddam after the Persian Gulf War because he thought it would be an economic and political disaster... imagine that

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None of these things are unprofessional, they were just terrible policies/decisions.

Damn_Underscore posted...

HW

He refused to go after Saddam after the Persian Gulf War because he thought it would be an economic and political disaster... imagine that

He also refused to go after anyone responsible for Iran-Contra
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Antifar posted...

He also refused to go after anyone responsible for Iran-Contra

All presidents are war criminals, yeah we get it.

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It's possible to be professional and still have controversies.

If anything, it's unprofessional for a president to NOT take actions to further the interests of the United States, even if said actions aren't particularly "nice."

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He kept people in detention and tortured them without a trial and without a cause on land the US doesn't even own for 8 years but it's okay because he isn't constantly at war with the concept of truth.

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CrimsonRage posted...

being black is not a controversy

Hmm... never said it was, but now we're all aware of your Freudian slip.


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Yeah but I couldn't care less about that. He was ass

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He was the best at convincing people he wasnt another scumbag politician.

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Josiah Bartlet was the most professional candidate in my lifetime.

Although Matt Santos was right there with him.

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Definitely George W. Bush. I didn't pay much attention to him at the time but he comes from a prestigious political family, for one, and after Googling his picture he just looks very statesmanlike.

To be serious though, glad people are calling out Obama for the shit he pulled internationally.

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George H.W. Bush was probably a contender.

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I Like Toast posted...

drone striking innocent civilian's is a controversy. He also deported more people than trump. Kept Guantanamo open despite his campaign to close it. And the iraq war dragged on into 2011 where isis then predictably popped up.

But the ones that gained news tractions were stupid shit like suit color, golf vacation, or the over exaggeration of benghazi attack (which was more put on hillary).

Also, don't forget he was pushing extremely hard to put boots on the ground long term in Syria.

And don't forget about the fast and furious debacle

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You all need to look up HW puking on the Japanese prime minister. Not that it was unprofessional just hilarious

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Journalists and whistleblowers did not have a good time under Barry either.

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