Poll of the Day > So why do people hate transgendered people?

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thedeerzord
11/22/20 3:34:01 PM
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For real?

What have they done to garner national backlash and hatred?

There is absolutely no reason to hate or discriminate against these people.
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shadowsword87
11/22/20 3:37:05 PM
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How dare these people want to make themselves happy.
They must make themselves happy how I want it done.

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TheWitchMorgana
11/22/20 3:37:23 PM
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people tend to hate things that challenge their worldviews. the concept of gender as an innate, immutable construct challenges a lot of people's worldviews

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Firewerx
11/22/20 3:38:16 PM
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Unfortunately, as in any highly emotive and controversial topic, the distinction between "hatred" and "disagreement" gets chucked out the window at the very outset.

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thedeerzord
11/22/20 3:39:16 PM
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TheWitchMorgana posted...
people tend to hate things that challenge their worldviews. the concept of gender as an innate, immutable construct challenges a lot of people's worldviews
what?
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LuciferSage
11/22/20 3:39:18 PM
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I wouldn't say it's hate, but disproportionately small percentages of the population have been emboldened in recent years to hijack conversations and make everything about them.

Case in point: Ford vs Ferrari. A historical drama concerning car makers in the 1960s.

The outrage: too white, too male. Use of fossil fuels.

Because obviously that historical story needed purple haired non binary amputees of color with cognitive and ambulatory disabilities to tell the story realistically. It also needed electric cars and veganism.

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TheWitchMorgana
11/22/20 3:39:43 PM
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what don't you get

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thedeerzord
11/22/20 3:40:22 PM
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TheWitchMorgana posted...
what don't you get
your statement and the definition of some of the words you used
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TheWitchMorgana
11/22/20 3:40:41 PM
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you're gonna need to be more specific

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BlackScythe0
11/22/20 3:42:46 PM
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Firewerx posted...
Unfortunately, as in any highly emotive and controversial topic, the distinction between "hatred" and "disagreement" gets chucked out the window at the very outset.
How bizarre that disagreeing with people existing is seen as hatred.
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Blightzkrieg
11/22/20 3:46:03 PM
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Bigotry is not really based on logic. As much as fiction likes to portray it as something that is and that can be overcome with logic (a trans person was mean to me as a child and so I thought trans people were bad honest mistake).

People can have strong negative reactions to things that fall outside their traditional worldview. These biases are actively taught to and encouraged among children.

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hypnox
11/22/20 3:49:12 PM
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Mostly due to there still being too many close minded people. Close minded people raise their kids like that and the new generation is made. Won't really go away until we can finally bring people out of their hate

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OniRonin
11/22/20 3:52:07 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
your statement and the definition of some of the words you used

TheWitchMorgana posted...
the concept of gender as an innate, immutable construct challenges a lot of people's worldviews

I think the confusion here is that she meant to put a negative in there? like "the concept of gender as something other than an innate, immutable construct challenges a lot of people's worldviews"


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Firewerx
11/22/20 3:52:35 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
How bizarre that disagreeing with people existing is seen as hatred.
How bizarre -- and depressing -- that we've now sunk to this low point where even daring to disagree with someone draws idiotic accusations of somehow advocating their elimination.

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OniRonin
11/22/20 3:54:06 PM
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LuciferSage posted...
I wouldn't say it's hate, but disproportionately small percentages of the population have been emboldened in recent years to hijack conversations and make everything about them.

Case in point: Ford vs Ferrari. A historical drama concerning car makers in the 1960s.

The outrage: too white, too male. Use of fossil fuels.

Because obviously that historical story needed purple haired non binary amputees of color with cognitive and ambulatory disabilities to tell the story realistically. It also needed electric cars and veganism.
what year do you think trans people first started existing

disproportionately small percentages of the population have been emboldened in recent years to hijack conversations and make everything about them.
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The outrage: too white, too male. Use of fossil fuels.

do you think women are a minority group

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LuciferSage
11/22/20 4:01:18 PM
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OniRonin posted...
what year do you think trans people first started existing

How many of them were employed in the upper echelons of Ferrari or Ford? How many of them were wrenching on prototype engines? Why are they needed to tell a story they weren't a part of?

Why weren't there Air Force pilots at the battle of Thermopylae? Where was the armored ballistic units at the battle of Hastings? Where were the nuclear launch code officers at Gettysburg?

They weren't there. Why would we revise history to insert a vanishingly small percentage of the population to satisfy Twitter?

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Blightzkrieg
11/22/20 4:02:26 PM
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Your jimmies seem really rustled right now ngl

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LuciferSage
11/22/20 4:03:08 PM
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OniRonin posted...
do you think women are a minority group

How many women were wrenching on engines at the r&d facilities for car makers in the 1960s?

The point remains the same. Should the story have been entirely rewritten to insert folks that had nothing to do with the entire story being told?

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DirtBasedSoap
11/22/20 4:05:49 PM
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whiskey is fucking obsessed with what people on Twitter think

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Blightzkrieg
11/22/20 4:06:32 PM
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Never forget when king SJW Augustus used the Aeneid to insert trans people into the Trojan war

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SilentSeph
11/22/20 4:07:48 PM
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hypnox posted...
Close minded people


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streamofthesky
11/22/20 4:12:15 PM
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How many people "hate" trans people depends upon perspective of how many easily triggered people there are, I guess?

I don't hate trans people (in my opinion/view). I don't give a damn what gender people want to identify as.
But there's people that'd label me a "transphobe" for being unwilling to date a "trans woman" and for me not personally considering them the same as a...the fuck is the politically correct term? ..."cis woman"?
Or that if I dated a trans woman and "she"* hid that fact from me, I'd be very angry when I found out (but if I was told up front, I'd just not date the person and not be upset at all).

Plenty of twitter users would say I "hate" trans people based on the above.
*Incoming flame barrage over the pronouns shit
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TheWitchMorgana
11/22/20 4:12:34 PM
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OniRonin posted...
I think the confusion here is that she meant to put a negative in there? like "the concept of gender as something other than an innate, immutable construct challenges a lot of people's worldviews"

yeah that lol

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JigsawTDC
11/22/20 4:13:47 PM
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Whiskey, if you're so obsessed with history, go read a fucking history book instead of crying about fictional adaptations. Anyone who thinks biopics are meant to be historically accurate is blind to the actual purpose they serve.
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thedeerzord
11/22/20 4:15:55 PM
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JigsawTDC posted...
Whiskey, if you're so obsessed with history, go read a fucking history book instead of crying about fictional adaptations. Anyone who thinks biopics are meant to be historically accurate is blind to the actual purpose they serve.
lol i just blocked him
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adjl
11/22/20 4:18:10 PM
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Firewerx posted...
Unfortunately, as in any highly emotive and controversial topic, the distinction between "hatred" and "disagreement" gets chucked out the window at the very outset.

I mean, the distinction between "I disagree that your existence should be acknowledged and accepted because of how you view yourself" and "I hate you" isn't terribly meaningful. Ignoring that distinction seems reasonable enough.

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Jen0125
11/22/20 4:19:25 PM
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Like what was he even talking about

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Mead
11/22/20 4:24:08 PM
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I dont think I know any transgender people irl

if I did I like to think that I would hate or not hate them fairly, based on their cool/shitty personality

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DirtBasedSoap
11/22/20 4:24:27 PM
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@SKARDAVNELNATE you sound dumb as fuck lol

do you know what nuance is

edit: lmao he got warned for that post very quickly

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LuciferSage
11/22/20 4:27:01 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
lol i just blocked him

This right here is a huge difference. Reasonable adults can bear to see opinions they disagree with.

Children need to cover their eyes so they don't see things they disagree with.

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TheWitchMorgana
11/22/20 4:27:27 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
@SKARDAVNELNATE you sound dumb as fuck lol

do you know what nuance is

edit: lmao he got warned for that post very quickly

im glad that got warned, havent seen a post that hateful in a while

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DirtBasedSoap
11/22/20 4:27:36 PM
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LuciferSage posted...
This right here is a huge difference. Reasonable adults can bear to see opinions they disagree with.

Children need to cover their eyes so they don't see things they disagree with.
youre the biggest man baby on the board, lil buddy

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Mead
11/22/20 4:28:18 PM
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I didnt see what he posted but that dude is overtly bigoted about pretty much everything

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Jen0125
11/22/20 4:29:08 PM
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Mead posted...
I didnt see what he posted but that dude is overtly bigoted about pretty much everything

It was terrible

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DirtBasedSoap
11/22/20 4:29:39 PM
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Mead posted...
I didnt see what he posted but that dude is overtly bigoted about pretty much everything
it was basically him admitting he has a sub-70 IQ

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LuciferSage
11/22/20 4:29:49 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
youre the biggest man baby on the board, lil buddy

I'll discuss an issue like an adult. Not stomp my feet, and block people I disagree with before storming off to call the cavalry.

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DirtBasedSoap
11/22/20 4:30:38 PM
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LuciferSage posted...
I'll discuss an issue like an adult. Not stomp my feet, and block people I disagree with before storming off to call the cavalry.
is arguing like an alcoholic boomer 24/7 really any better though?

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LuciferSage
11/22/20 4:32:48 PM
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Better than behaving like a petulant child everytime someone has the temerity to disagree with you. Sorry to rattle your hugbox.

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DirtBasedSoap
11/22/20 4:33:43 PM
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lmao bro just use normal words and talk like a normal person. no one is impressed.

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Mead
11/22/20 4:33:55 PM
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LuciferSage posted...
Better than behaving like a petulant child everytime someone has the temerity to disagree with you. Sorry to rattle your hugbox.

whoa look at all the maturity in this post

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DirtBasedSoap
11/22/20 4:34:28 PM
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Mead posted...
whoa look at all the maturity in this post
Edgy 14 year old in a 60 year old mans body

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JigsawTDC
11/22/20 4:34:44 PM
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Lol, Whiskey of all people is trying to lecture us on "behaving like a petulant child" and he's probably too dense see the obvious irony.
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LuciferSage
11/22/20 4:35:48 PM
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Man, I've gone from almost 50 to now 60 in a few weeks. At this rate, I'll either be dead by new years or immortal!

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DirtBasedSoap
11/22/20 4:36:08 PM
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cope

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LuciferSage
11/22/20 4:36:31 PM
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JigsawTDC posted...
Lol, Whiskey of all people is trying to lecture us on "behaving like a petulant child" and he's probably too dense see the obvious irony.

Don't you have something to cry to a mod about FakeTDC?

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DirtBasedSoap
11/22/20 4:37:09 PM
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^fuck me that was a good one whiskey

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JigsawTDC
11/22/20 4:38:06 PM
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LuciferSage posted...
Man, I've gone from almost 50 to now 60 in a few weeks. At this rate, I'll either be dead by new years or immortal!

All those candy apples, cigarettes, red meat and alcohol have aged your body quicker than your stagnant mind can keep up!
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LuciferSage
11/22/20 4:41:26 PM
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JigsawTDC posted...
All those candy apples, cigarettes, red meat and alcohol have aged your body quicker than your stagnant mind can keep up!

Don't forget the psychedelics and cocaine! Clearly you know me better than I know myself! It's like we're old friends!

Funny how you know next to nothing about the posters you can't stalk on social media, despite totally being around forever, trust him guys!

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JigsawTDC
11/22/20 4:41:39 PM
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LuciferSage posted...
Don't you have something to cry to a mod about FakeTDC?

I love that you think I care enough to report you. You make yourself look bad enough that I really don't need to. But keep crying about being put in time out by the Big Bad Mods because of Jigsawfa's Mastermind Puppet Plan. Your tears are so sweet.
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Firewerx
11/22/20 4:42:50 PM
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adjl posted...
I mean, the distinction between "I disagree that your existence should be acknowledged and accepted because of how you view yourself" and "I hate you" isn't terribly meaningful. Ignoring that distinction seems reasonable enough.
If I said to you I felt uncomfortable about the idea of dating a trans woman and wouldn't do it personally because I found it difficult to accept them as genuinely female -- but had no opinion whatsoever about anyone else's choice to do so, and saw no point in denying transgendered people the same rights as anyone else of their self-identified gender -- would you nevertheless describe that as hating them?

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