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PalmerSensei
12/02/20 5:04:38 PM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
masterpug53 posted...
But to this day I'm still convinced that they accidentally switched Cynthia and Dialga / Palkia's battle themes at the last minute and couldn't be arsed to fix / admit to the mistake.

lol I love this theory. Probably not though since Dialga / Palkia has the spear pillar theme in it. I can definitely see it otherwise though.

Where does this theory come from?

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Nightmare_Luna
12/02/20 5:18:38 PM
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platinum is fantastic

don't get the love for hgss though, gen 2 is dogshit and it being remade doesn't make it any less bad

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CRON
12/02/20 5:30:00 PM
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Nightmare_Luna posted...
platinum is fantastic

don't get the love for hgss though, gen 2 is dogshit and it being remade doesn't make it any less bad
What don't you like about gen 2?

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Kisai
12/02/20 5:38:43 PM
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cuh posted...
Did this Gen introduce the Vs Seeker? If so, then yes its a 10/10 game since that is probably the greatest item added to a Pokmon game.

Oh and if its the one with that postgame island in the top right of the map then yea I loved it.
No, that was in Gen III.

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masterpug53
12/02/20 8:53:43 PM
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PalmerSensei posted...
Where does this theory come from?

My ass, specifically :) It's just that on one one hand you have this super-intense battle music the likes of which is typically reserved for giant monsters, and on the other you have this more reserved (yet still dramatic) piano melody that would seem fitting for an end-of-the-journey showdown, and yet they're switched. Just compare the Dialga / Palkia theme with Champion Diantha's theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKVrB60klMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpgQa-TOk0M

It's not something that I would consider a flaw, just something that always made me wonder if there was an unintended mix-up. But hey, maybe Cynthia's theme being so uncharacteristically intense was part of the reason she became so memorable.

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Fluttershy
12/02/20 8:54:39 PM
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i was too busy enjoying the music to care about the game.
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LostForest
12/02/20 10:33:16 PM
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I'm really shocked that many people care about the music in the game. I'm a huge game music buff to the point I now compose game music as a side hobby, and I thought it was one of the most underwhelming Pokemon OSTs in the entire series. I know music is subjective, but I've never seen anyone rave about the music until this thread, lol.

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CM_Ponch
12/03/20 12:30:10 AM
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LostForest posted...
I'm really shocked that many people care about the music in the game. I'm a huge game music buff to the point I now compose game music as a side hobby, and I thought it was one of the most underwhelming Pokemon OSTs in the entire series. I know music is subjective, but I've never seen anyone rave about the music until this thread, lol.
Sinnoh has some of the best music in the series
Mt. Coronet, Route 1, 209, Cynthia, Cyrus, legendary , Battle Brains, Arceus

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F1areaGaman
12/03/20 12:32:50 AM
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Gen IV games were the last old-school Pokemon games, where as GEN V is in a weird limbo.

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TreyFlowers
12/03/20 12:37:13 AM
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Platinum easily the best Pokemon game

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CRON
12/03/20 10:50:45 AM
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TreyFlowers posted...
Platinum easily the best Pokemon game
How? It's so slow.

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Relient_K
12/03/20 11:12:51 AM
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I've always loved Sinnoh. I remember getting to the snowing area the first time and being amazed. Lots of fun, and the physical/special split did almost as much for competitive as additing abilities did.

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AceAttorneyist
12/03/20 5:28:19 PM
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LostForest posted...
I'm really shocked that many people care about the music in the game. I'm a huge game music buff to the point I now compose game music as a side hobby, and I thought it was one of the most underwhelming Pokemon OSTs in the entire series. I know music is subjective, but I've never seen anyone rave about the music until this thread, lol.

I've had the opposite experience. I've seen nothing but praise for the Sinnoh soundtrack, and rightfully so imo.

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Sheep007
12/03/20 5:43:04 PM
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I agree that Diamond/Pearl aren't great, but I also agree with pretty much all the rest of the praise in the thread. There's a lot of average designs, but the good ones are probably among the best in the series. It's got the best Champion, makes most Pokmon at least useable with the physical/special split and addition of lots of new moves, it made competitive actually viable with lots of new strategies and options as a result, plus adding tons of items, and has a great soundtrack. It also just had a really nice and distinct vibe compared to the newer ones, which can feel a bit more hollow in places. The plot obviously isn't great as per usual for a Pokemon game, it's a little slow, and there's issues with the TM/HM system still, but the amount of content in the game is ridiculous considering its time. Plus it introduced online. I think HG/SS being even better in comparison push it up the ranks even more, with two of the four/five games which are considered the best being released within a year of each other, and also being two of the most content-heavy.

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TreyFlowers
12/03/20 5:49:45 PM
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How? It's so slow.

It's not. Diamond/Pearl are, Platinum is not as slow

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V-E-G-Y-
12/03/20 5:50:27 PM
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To me it rekindled pokemon, i didn't care much about gen 3 so when i and my friends bought gen 4 we had da time of our lives
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LostForest
12/04/20 10:58:10 AM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Sinnoh has some of the best music in the series
Mt. Coronet, Route 1, 209, Cynthia, Cyrus, legendary , Battle Brains, Arceus

TBQH of those, the only ones I remember off the top of my head are Cynthia, Dialga and 209 (I think).

I think I just didn't like the soundfont they used. Like, it was in this weird middle ground where it didn't sound like timeless game MIDI, but wasn't quality enough to resemble real instruments. I know Masuda went with jazz as the running theme for the soundtrack, but I dunno. It didn't feel memorable to me at all compared to how he utilized a genre in other regions like Johto (traditional Japanese) or Unova (electronic).

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