Poll of the Day > Damn the hub got rid of a bunch of their compilation videos.

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shadowsword87 posted...

Uuuuuuh, most of it's drawn yeah, turns out vore isn't real.

Well I don't know how twisted some parts of the internet is. I really hope there isn't any live version of it.
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I'm sure there are roleplayers of that kind of thing. It would surprise me if there wasn't.

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I mean most people aren't large enough to swallow other people whole.

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Zareth posted...

I mean most people aren't large enough to swallow other people whole.

Winky face.

Also, you're assuming that it's humans doing the vore, most of the time it's furries being non-humans.

shadowsword87 posted...

Uuuuuuh, most of it's drawn yeah, turns out vore isn't real.

I think I remember hearing a story about some german cannibal or something that suggested some people are into it.

The best I can tell, there's giantess stuff that also tends to overlap with that.

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Yeah I know there's like shrinking and growing videos.

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giantess 'stuff' overlapping with carnivore 'stuff'?

growing and shrinking!? RICK MORANIS???

I like to watch videos of two women sucking on one penis. It's a personal thing.

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Truth be told, I'm more into the reading thing. Some images are nice and all, but give me a story to digest. Some of those can be so bad, but so . . . enjoyable for that particular moment.

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Entity13 posted...

Truth be told, I'm more into the reading thing. Some images are nice and all, but give me a story to digest. Some of those can be so bad, but so . . . enjoyable for that particular moment.

There it be, I knew you were one of the weird 'uns.

Entity13 posted...

but give me a story to digest.

Hmmmmm

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Revelation34 posted...

All they would need to do is change the filename.

That wouldn't even stop MD5 checks, let alone modern identification methods.

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Kungfu Kenobi posted...

That wouldn't even stop MD5 checks, let alone modern identification methods.

They can edit the video itself if they wanted it out there hard enough.
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Revelation34 posted...

All they would need to do is change the filename.

Theres probably some technology that can scan for matching video frames

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deoxxys posted...

Theres probably some technology that can scan for matching video frames

That was what I meant about editing the video.
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Revelation34 posted...

"You're not allowed to spend your money on things you want to spend it on."

Coming soon to legislation near you!

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It's really the same problem youtube has been dealing with for like a decade. There's no way to manually police even a meaningful percentage of content when anyone can upload. Even IF you hired more people, it'd be trivial to automate something that uploads a sea of editted reposted videos that'd be too much to sort through. There is no solution but the thought of losing user uploaded content is basically unthinkable so this kind of thing is just going to happen until eventually someone malicious pushes it to a breaking point and then everyone is going to lose.

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Meh. I was gonna make a topic about this yesterday since I don't use the Sex board anymore, but I didn't bother. I am kinda over it (the PH site as a whole). And I was probably one of the first to realise what was going on because I was actually on there when it happened. All of a sudden everyone's profile pics, videos and photos started disappearing. Unless you were a verified model. The large majority aren't. No warning nothing. They had to have known this was coming (there was even a big topic on this issue and the implications only like a week ago on Politics board). So the fact that it happened wasn't shocking, it's how it was carried out. They should have given general notice to all users like a month ago to get verified. Really poor form.

It sucks for amateur people that invested so much time there and just lost everything like that. I only started using my account 2 months ago (though I had it for 2 years) so it's just most of my faved videos and pics got smited. But that's someone else's content that got thrown in the bin. I was always an XXX Twitter user though and even there is tightening up. You can't have any nude profile or header now so I changed my whole page. I think Twitter is different though since you can't upload full length videos and stuff. It's really more about promotion so I can't see any big ban enforced. Nearly all the xxx stuff I see on there is people promoting their OF pages, and it's a much higher proportion of verified accounts compared to PH.

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must be why they are gone on vid
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deoxxys posted...

Theres probably some technology that can scan for matching video frames

Probably, but say a 20 minute video has 28800 frames to check, lets say you check 10% of them (2880) against a database probably with over 1,000,000,000 frames....I just don't see it being practical but maybe I'm wrong. Or you can take a random 4-5 frames a video but then that lets through a lot of false negatives especially if someone wanted to pad the video.

Why is everyone acting like this is the death of amateur content? Verified amateurs are a thing. Even if they currently aren't, the verification system can very easily be updated to allow it (and will be, because PH knows how popular their amateur stuff is).

The bottom line here is that the ability to upload content completely anonymously is being abused for criminal purposes. Removing that anonymity makes such criminal activity significantly riskier (since they're uploading illegal content under their own identity), at the cost of a couple extra bureaucratic hoops for legitimate users to jump through. That's not unreasonable, really.

deoxxys posted...

The government could just create one big catalog of underage videos for the pornsites to use to cross-reference their uploaded videos and have those automatically rejected whenever someone tries to upload one so that there would never be repeat offenses.

This should probably happen at least for the sake of preventing revenge porn and the like from remaining in circulation. With actual CP/trafficking content being shared for commercial purposes, the people sharing it will likely be able to bypass that detection, but people that are just reuploading somebody else's video that got taken down generally won't put such effort in because they're just doing it for fun. That would at least help make revenge porn a little less persistent, since as it stands, victims basically have to commit themselves full-time to harassing porn sites in order to keep squashing reuploads. That would also make it a lot easier for somebody that wants to get out of doing porn to erase their presence, as an added bonus.

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Who the hell wants those compilation videos anyway? Just get the originals and then you can fap without the scene constantly changing.

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kind9 posted...

Who the hell wants those compilation videos anyway? Just get the originals and then you can fap without the scene constantly changing.

While TC just mentioned compilation videos, its not only compilation videos. All unverified videos. So, even certain originals. That being said, many people do like compilations. Especially if they find specific things/porn stars hot...
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kind9 posted...

Who the hell wants those compilation videos anyway? Just get the originals and then you can fap without the scene constantly changing.

A well edited compilation is great. It gives you that 2 tab feeling without having to actually change tabs.

On a related note, who actually watches pmvs? Its always a shitty song that never fits what's going on in the viddo.

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LinkPizza posted...

While TC just mentioned compilation videos, its not only compilation videos. All unverified videos. So, even certain originals. That being said, many people do like compilations. Especially if they find specific things/porn stars hot...

Not just unverified. I follow guys who were verified users and they still lost all their stuff. I saw one talking about it on Twitter. This whole thing was rushed and botched. Thank god I never wasted my time uploading anything there.

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zebatov posted...

Coming soon to legislation near you!

It's just a shitty way to go about it. There are also Visa and Mastercard debit cards too.
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A damn shame... Should have ripped some off the site for myself...

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Are people still not using porn search engines like nu** vista and po**MD?

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EvilMegas posted...

Are people still not using porn search engines like nu** vista and po**MD?

I've noticed that if one video gets removed from the site, other sites follow suit.

Not to say the video can't be found through lots of googling, but it's just a pain to deal with

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joemodda posted...

I've noticed that if one video gets removed from the site, other sites follow suit.

Not to say the video can't be found through lots of googling, but it's just a pain to deal with

It's not even lots of work. It's legit google specifically for porn.


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Revelation34 posted...

It's just a shitty way to go about it. There are also Visa and Mastercard debit cards too.

Ive had them for years. Way better because it uses your own money rather than borrowing at 21%.

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zebatov posted...

Ive had them for years. Way better because it uses your own money rather than borrowing at 21%.

That doesn't address the issue of them banning cards on things people want to buy.
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Revelation34 posted...

That doesn't address the issue of them banning cards on things people want to buy.

This is kind of weird. Banning people from us g their own cards on PH is definitely weird...
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LinkPizza posted...

This is kind of weird. Banning people from us g their own cards on PH is definitely weird...

They did it on other sites like Patreon too. There has to be some way somebody can sue the companies for not allowing you to spend your money that way.
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Revelation34 posted...

They did it on other sites like Patreon too.

Is it certain Patreons? Because my still works for Patreon...

Revelation34 posted...

There has to be some way somebody can sue the companies for not allowing you to spend your money that way.

Yeah. I make my money to spend it on what I want to spend it on...
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Some people are acting like there is suddenly no porn on the internet anymore

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Mead posted...

Some people are acting like there is suddenly no porn on the internet anymore

It might have to do with certain videos. Or bookmarks. People obviously know they can get porn anywhere. But different sites are different in many ways...
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LinkPizza posted...

Is it certain Patreons? Because my still works for Patreon...

It was the type of content so Patreon had to ban it.

Mead posted...

Some people are acting like there is suddenly no porn on the internet anymore

Here's a person who supports people not being able to spend money on something they want to spend it on.
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Revelation34 posted...

Here's a person who supports people not being able to spend money on something they want to spend it on.

I understand what you are saying but this is a really dumb way of saying it.

Mead posted...

Some people are acting like there is suddenly no porn on the internet anymore

Do you not find it at all disturbing that a couple of companies (Visa and Mastercard) can just decide that the business in question is no longer allowed to do business? Because thats kinda what happened. The cause is good in that they're, at least attempting, to reduce the amount of disgusting acts done to these women and men. But what's to stop Visa and/or Mastercard from doing it any other circumstance?

I also find it odd that Visa, Mastercard, and Discover appear to be in lockstep with each other. There are a few other situations where they've refused to process payments for other sites/people as well. Seems like collusion to me. Furthermore, I don't need those companies to be the arbiters of justice. That's what the government exists for. If sites like PH are doing things that are illegal, then the gov needs to investigate the issue.

The justification from each of the processors is 'violations of our standards prohibiting unlawful content on their site'. If that's their justification then virtually every website with user generated content is going to violate that rule because every website with user generated content will at some point have illegal content on it. Even Gamefaqs has been host to illegal content at some point. Should they shut this site down too?

I just find the whole thing to be bizarre that these payment processors can and do decide who gets to do business in the world and if you're doing something they don't like that they can just say 'Fuck you guy' and you're done.

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Smarkil posted...

Do you not find it at all disturbing that a couple of companies (Visa and Mastercard) can just decide that the business in question is no longer allowed to do business?

I find it a lot less disturbing than the trafficking and abuse of minors

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Smarkil posted...

Do you not find it at all disturbing that a couple of companies (Visa and Mastercard) can just decide that the business in question is no longer allowed to do business? Because thats kinda what happened.

Not really. I'd been hearing about pornhub apparently having videos of actual rapes and stuff for the last year or so. It seems that campaign actually bore fruit. Anyways the alternative to what you're saying is that Visa and Mastercard shouldn't have the right to choose who they do business with?

BlackScythe0 posted...

Not really. I'd been hearing about pornhub apparently having videos of actual rapes and stuff for the last year or so. It seems that campaign actually bore fruit. Anyways the alternative to what you're saying is that Visa and Mastercard shouldn't have the right to choose who they do business with?

I would suspect that every pornsite with user content has that kinda shit. Not that I'm condoning it by any means but again I don't really need Visa to be the one to figure that out. I'd be curious why law enforcement wouldn't or didn't do anything about it.

As much of a libertarian as I usually am, I'm not certain payment processors should be able to deny service outside of specific circumstances. Maybe illegal content is one of those circumstances. If the purview of government is the regulation of currency, I might argue that card transactions fall under that. Now more than ever given COVID has shifted everything even more so to digital transactions and it won't be long before we're under an almost entirely digital transaction based system. Let's say Pornhub moves to those whatever verification model that they're purporting. What if that illegal content should happen to creep back in? Do we continue to not allow them to do business?

I'm not certain what Visa or MC or these other companies are getting out of the deal. To my knowledge there hasn't been an outcry against Visa in any of these cases which (potentially) would lead to a loss of a business for them. I'm not certain you could do that if you wanted to. As a consumer could I even effectively boycott Visa? You couldn't even do stuff like Venmo or Paypal or whatever because at the root of each of those is a payment processor.

In any case - if you're against the acts PH is being accused of, and you should be, boycott Pornhub and its parent company Mindgeek. If PH is doing something illegal the government can and should prosecute them. Why do these payment processors need to be involved in the fight?

Anyway, over the past few years I've seen this weird russian nesting doll of anti-company sentiment against companies that do business with companies you don't like and I find it somewhat unsettling. Not so much that people would speak out against those companies but rather that companies like these processors are opting out of doing business seemingly on a whim. I don't believe for a moment it's for any sort of altruistic purpose.

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Smarkil posted...

As much of a libertarian as I usually am, I'm not certain payment processors should be able to deny service outside of specific circumstances.

Lol this is the most libertarian statement ever

They always want a free unfettered market until they realize how fucked up things would be

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BlackScythe0 posted...

the alternative to what you're saying is that Visa and Mastercard shouldn't have the right to choose who they do business with?

Considering how they handle the entire world's money, no they shouldn't. They have too much influence to use it freely and should have to report to the countries governments they operate in to make any move like this.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Considering how they handle the entire world's money, no they shouldn't. They have too much influence to use it freely and should have to report to the countries governments they operate in to make any move like this.

Honestly I don't have strong feelings on it either way, but in this situation I doubt the government would side with pornhub.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Anyways the alternative to what you're saying is that Visa and Mastercard shouldn't have the right to choose who they do business with?

They already do that by denying people from purchasing memberships on Pornhub.
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Revelation34 posted...

It was the type of content so Patreon had to ban it.

Hmmm... Idk... I know I still use my visa on Patreon. And I know at least a couple of them are porn... Though, it's drawn stuff...

Mead posted...

I find it a lot less disturbing than the trafficking and abuse of minors

Sure. But what's they're doing in going to stop that. People don't need a credit card to put stuff on Pornhub. Not to mention, if pornhub was going to hire more people to help, that's harder to do with less money. Either way, it doesn't help since those people just move to a new site. And I still don't think someone else should be able to tell me how to spend my money, which is the what I'm actually taking issue with right now...

BlackScythe0 posted...

Not really. I'd been hearing about pornhub apparently having videos of actual rapes and stuff for the last year or so. It seems that campaign actually bore fruit.

It's been going on longer than that. And the only thing this has done is kill the site, causing all those people to move to other sites. PH had actually been taking some (though not all) of them down. Even if slowly. So, the only thing this changed was taking most content away. Leaving pretty much just the regular porn with the famous porn stars... Which is their own fault for dragging feet and trying to keep certain content with proof that it shouldn't have been up in many cases...

Smarkil posted...

To my knowledge there hasn't been an outcry against Visa in any of these cases which (potentially) would lead to a loss of a business for them.

The problem is probably that many people don't have a choice. Lots of banks already use Visa for people's cards. So, it might be hard to live without one, in some cases. Kind of like what you were saying. Though, I do think somebody should say something. I am surprised Twitter isn't in an uproar (They ight be, I don't go there). The one time they could do something useful, and now they decide to sit back...
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I am no legal expert but isn't PH opening themselves up to even more trouble now by removing (I'd think millions) of content without the users permission. Unless that's in the fine print of their TOS. Like on YouTube its understood when you sign up you can get strikes on your page and stuff blocked or removed. But thats normally for uploading others content illegally not yours. And even then you get warnings via email and site notices.

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MeteoricBurst posted...

I am no legal expert but isn't PH opening themselves up to even more trouble now by removing (I'd think millions) of content without the users permission. Unless that's in the fine print of their TOS. Like on YouTube its understood when you sign up you can get strikes on your page and stuff blocked or removed. But thats normally for uploading others content illegally not yours. And even then you get warnings via email and site notices.

It might be in the fine print. They probably have lawyer write the stuff, and it probably lets them do a lot of stuff (almost anything they want). And at the very least, they have money to get a ton of good lawyers to get them out of trouble...
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