Poll of the Day > Started up Dragon Quest 11

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Not bad so far just got the second party member

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I liked it a lot but the story pulls a lot of dumbs...

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The game is like tons of generic-tasting candy with its tropes, so you can probably predict what is going to happen within the next hour or three of the story, at least until the last third comes along and the game throws one-way time travel at you.

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the game is far, far too long, with so much downtime in between events

the english voice acting is atrocious, too, as well as the fuckin text. like i don't know why the localizers decided that every character in every dragon quest game has to be from wales and nearly unintelligible, but it's a bad decision that they need to stop

and the overworld music, dear god why the fuck is it so loud and busy. it's obnoxious, and it doesn't matter if it's the shitty midi's or the orchestra versions, it sucks. dragon quest music is godawaful for overworld.

when you're in the overworld, you want the music to be low key, soft, soothing. what you don't want it to be is if you walked directly into a marching band going nuts while wearing hearing aids turned to MAX. AND IT RESTARTS AFTER EVERY BATTLE. WHY. DON'T FUCKIN' DO THAT. EVER.

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The game is good, but long. Some of the characters are really annoying. The battle system is great, as always. 2D mode is the best way to play the game.

My sibling made some texture mods for that game.
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonquestxi/users/8976537?tab=user+files

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dobt listen to these nerds the game is awesome
unless you're playing the bad soundtrack version


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I love this game. It's a simple yet fun RPG and I found the story and characters charming. Jade is sexy af too. Even more so in her Bunny Outfit.

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So many uncultured and filthy people in this topic.

*sips DQ11*

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Get used to ALL THE BACKTRACKING.

I liked it, but by the third act it started feeling like Groundhog Day, the RPG, but more charming than Dragon Quarter at least.

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The game is awesome. Easily one of the best JRPGs made in the 2010s.

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Judgmenl posted...

The game is awesome. Easily one of the best JRPGs made in the 2010s.

+1

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Loved this game. I put in over 80 hours into it and that's a rare thing for me these days.

It's fun but as the others said it's way too long and feels longer since the pacing is poor.

And I love Dragon Quest. Some may say 11 is the best of the franchise but I'd argue 8,9,5 and even the archaic DQ3 are all way better games.

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Joe_Biden posted...

the game is far, far too long, with so much downtime in between events

the english voice acting is atrocious, too, as well as the fuckin text. like i don't know why the localizers decided that every character in every dragon quest game has to be from wales and nearly unintelligible, but it's a bad decision that they need to stop

and the overworld music, dear god why the fuck is it so loud and busy. it's obnoxious, and it doesn't matter if it's the shitty midi's or the orchestra versions, it sucks. dragon quest music is godawaful for overworld.

when you're in the overworld, you want the music to be low key, soft, soothing. what you don't want it to be is if you walked directly into a marching band going nuts while wearing hearing aids turned to MAX. AND IT RESTARTS AFTER EVERY BATTLE. WHY. DON'T FUCKIN' DO THAT. EVER.

That's crazy to bed there isn't audio settings in game that allows you to turn the music down

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Black_Crusher posted...

It's fun but as the others said it's way too long and feels longer since the pacing is poor.

And I love Dragon Quest. Some may say 11 is the best of the franchise but I'd argue 8,9,5 and even the archaic DQ3 are all way better games.

DQ3 is for straight up masochists, and I say this as someone that absolutely loves SMT:N and Strange Journey.

DQ8 is by far my favorite in the series. I keep trying to love 9 too, but the beginning is just too...something. I can't put my finger on it but there's just something that rubs me the wrong way about it.

The one with Torenko is up there too.

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I couldn't deal with it. I got maybe a dozen hours in before I bailed. I like old school rpgs but dragon quest is a series that hangs on to all the worst, archaic parts of rpgs and it feels super clunky and slow and tedious to play to me. Tons of tiny little quality of life user interface issues that other rpgs have solved long ago but for whatever reason dragon quest is stuck in the early 1990s in every single regard.

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man101 posted...

I couldn't deal with it. I got maybe a dozen hours in before I bailed. I like old school rpgs but dragon quest is a series that hangs on to all the worst, archaic parts of rpgs and it feels super clunky and slow and tedious to play to me. Tons of tiny little quality of life user interface issues that other rpgs have solved long ago but for whatever reason dragon quest is stuck in the early 1990s in every single regard.

Go play Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter for 30 hours and then tell me how bad DQXI is...

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LuciferSage posted...

DQ3 is for straight up masochists, and I say this as someone that absolutely loves SMT:N and Strange Journey.

DQ8 is by far my favorite in the series. I keep trying to love 9 too, but the beginning is just too...something. I can't put my finger on it but there's just something that rubs me the wrong way about it.

The one with Torenko is up there too.

I've kinda been getting into the SMT series. Played almost all the way through IV and loved it. Started playing Devil Survivor 2 recently and it's been pretty fun. I like that they implemented tactical gameplay elements.

I played IV too, but I hated it.

The logic behind literally every ending path was a psychotic fever dream.

At least in 3 and SJ, the people offering paths didn't all get together at the same point in the story, do a 180 degree heel turn, and make you pick between several different flavors of wrong that nobody could have seen coming.

Like literally ever canonical ending was distasteful.

I wish we'd get the 3rd Raidou game stateside eventually.

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LuciferSage posted...

Get used to ALL THE BACKTRACKING.

I liked it, but by the third act it started feeling like Groundhog Day, the RPG, but more charming than Dragon Quarter at least.

The third act is meant to be your new game+ bonus content... consider the regular 2nd act as the real ending.

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i want a new demikids

it had potential

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Lokarin posted...

I liked it a lot but the story pulls a lot of dumbs...

I mean its a JRPG isnt it?

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Mead posted...

I mean its a JRPG isnt it?

maybe I'm spoiled by having grown up with the best JRPGS

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I've been playing it over the holidays, just finished Act 1.

It's very nostalgic, and I've been enjoying it. Yes, the music is unreasonably loud by default, but that was easily fixed by toying around with the audio settings.

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Lokarin posted...

maybe I'm spoiled by having grown up with the best JRPGS

Even the best jrpgs are hella dumb and I'd say I've played most of the genre

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JoanOfArcade posted...

Even the best jrpgs are hella dumb and I'd say I've played most of the genre

Final Fantasy 1 contains zero plot dumbs

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LuciferSage posted...

Go play Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter for 30 hours and then tell me how bad DQXI is...

That game is almost 20 years old. DQXI is current gen. I have played the former and I didn't get very far for the same reasons, but at least I can give it a bit more leeway because of its age.

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man101 posted...

That game is almost 20 years old. DQXI is current gen. I have played the former and I didn't get very far for the same reasons, but at least I can give it a bit more leeway because of its age.

there's literally no excuse for making the same mistakes 20ish years later.

that being said, i really don't hate DQXI, it has a lot of charm.

i just think at this point that DQ peaked at DQVIII.

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LuciferSage posted...

there's literally no excuse for making the same mistakes 20ish years later.

that being said, i really don't hate DQXI, it has a lot of charm.

i just think at this point that DQ peaked at DQVIII.

I couldn't get into 8 since at the time I wasn't playing console RPGs and it just seemed weird...

I think the best DQ story is still DQ4. I enjoy that the progress the villain makes is tied with the goals and dreams of your earlier characters.

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i own the normal ps4 version, but thinking of getting the special edition, or whatever it's called. i really liked the demo, ok?

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Lokarin posted...

I couldn't get into 8 since at the time I wasn't playing console RPGs and it just seemed weird...

I think the best DQ story is still DQ4. I enjoy that the progress the villain makes is tied with the goals and dreams of your earlier characters.

I loved the characters in 8, and i actually loved that most of the game wasn't "bridge gated". like, you could just wander your ass into somewhere you really, REALLY shouldn't be early on entirely by accident and there was no indication until you got your ass handed to you by mooks.

like if you're trying to get to the Arena as early as possible, you've got one hell of a challenge on your hands, or you can go do what you're supposed to do like a good boy and not try and break the game with summons early on.

plus, DQ8 felt huge for a very long time compared to many RPGs of its day. Like it was Fallout or Skyrim big in terms of world scale. even FFXII didn't have the same feel of a giant world at the time.

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LuciferSage posted...

there's literally no excuse for making the same mistakes 20ish years later.

that being said, i really don't hate DQXI, it has a lot of charm.

i just think at this point that DQ peaked at DQVIII.

. . . So you're agreeing with me then.

I'm saying breath of fire was clunky and so is DQXI but it is relatively a greater game design sin for DQ because it's much newer but just as clunky.

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the BoF games were delightful until Dragon Quarter ruined the series. Dragon Quest is still...Dragon Quest, and aside from the major misstep i think 3 was, the series is still good. BoF is dead in the water as of now.

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Black_Crusher posted...

It's fun but as the others said it's way too long and feels longer since the pacing is poor.

And I love Dragon Quest. Some may say 11 is the best of the franchise but I'd argue 8,9,5 and even the archaic DQ3 are all way better games.

Yep. DQ3 is still the best in the series, IMO. 9 is the next best.

kukukupo posted...

Yep. DQ3 is still the best in the series, IMO. 9 is the next best.

DQ3 can go gorilla fuck itself for all the 50/50 grinding it requires at every step of the game just to get a shield.


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Joe_Biden posted...

the english voice acting is atrocious, too, as well as the fuckin text. like i don't know why the localizers decided that every character in every dragon quest game has to be from wales and nearly unintelligible, but it's a bad decision that they need to stop

I must admit I only ever played DQ8, but the voices were a large part of that game's charm. There was nothing hard to understand about the voices for me, but that is also what you have subtitles for, if it really is such an issue for you.

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Helly post. I had no issue at all with the English voice acting or text.

Aculo posted...

i own the normal ps4 version, but thinking of getting the special edition, or whatever it's called. i really liked the demo, ok?

I was thinking about this until I heard the graphics are downgraded, ok? I'd only be buying again for the 2D mode, ok?

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I don't like English accents for the most part but the dub is decent

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JoanOfArcade posted...

I don't like English accents for the most part but the dub is decent

I'm actually more a fan of the Irish and Scottish. I do agree some English accents are terrible. Those from Liverpool for example yikes!

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wwinterj25 posted...

I was thinking about this until I heard the graphics are downgraded, ok? I'd only be buying again for the 2D mode, ok?

This is true, but the 60fps mode sold me. I know it's a turn based rpg, but I'll always go performance over graphics, ok?

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About 25 hours in have five party members all in their lvl 20s

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LuciferSage posted...

Black_Crusher posted...
It's fun but as the others said it's way too long and feels longer since the pacing is poor.

And I love Dragon Quest. Some may say 11 is the best of the franchise but I'd argue 8,9,5 and even the archaic DQ3 are all way better games.

DQ3 is for straight up masochists, and I say this as someone that absolutely loves SMT:N and Strange Journey.

Oh no, if you want masochist stuff you should try DQ2!

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Black_Crusher posted...

Oh no, if you want masochist stuff you should try DQ2!

yaaaa...... dq2 is pretty rough. I still adore DQ1, but with how rough 2 is I'm glad we got 3 and 4 at all

And 4 is debatable since I think they only make like 10 copies :b

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Lokarin posted...

yaaaa...... dq2 is pretty rough. I still adore DQ1, but with how rough 2 is I'm glad we got 3 and 4 at all

And 4 is debatable since I think they only make like 10 copies :b

The only version of DQ2 I play anymore is my gbc copy. It's still tough, but not nearly as bad. Looks better too, IMO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSDJBSvhVic


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Black_Crusher posted...

The only version of DQ2 I play anymore is my gbc copy. It's still tough, but not nearly as bad. Looks better too, IMO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSDJBSvhVic

of course, the GBC version fixes some of the balance problems since they hadn't figured out party vs. party combat quite yet

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Lokarin posted...

of course, the GBC version fixes some of the balance problems since they hadn't figured out party vs. party combat quite yet

True, but I'd argue that I still prefer the NES version of DQ1 over the gbc game for a couple reasons:

1) They give you more XP and Gold in the remake. Personal preference but to me this makes the game too short. In the original, it took a while to grind to be able to afford that Hand Axe or Chain Mail and it was so awesome when you finally bought it. I know not everyone will share this sentiment though and that's OK.

2) Some of the enemies have been moved to other zones. Maybe some players didn't notice this, but since I've played the NES game so often it stood out right away. The best example is once I hit level 3 and learned the Heal spell I'd always travel north to Gariniham and fight Magicians that would roam around there. Great XP and gold for the early game. These enemies are not in this zone anymore in the remake, as they've been moved to another zone further away. Kind of a weird decision.

3) File under: "This SHOULD be better, but it makes no sense department"- In the remake they still have the Sword of Flames. Additionally you can USE this weapon in battle and it casts a fireball for no MP cost. Sounds awesome, however by the time anyone can get to Cantlin or get the gold to purchase it a normal attack will outdamage the fireball. So nobody is ever going to use the fireball effect because it's never a better option than just whacking the enemy with the sword regularly.

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Ah, Dragon Warrior... Start the game at maxed level, the best gear, with all the spells and a single file will take under an hour. Good times.

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Dragon Quest XI is my favorite game of 2018, and I enjoyed it enough to also buy the Switch version, but, to be fair, I have been a fan of the series since the '80s.

And I beat Dragon Quest II on the NES. That might have made me crazy.

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Black_Crusher posted...

1) They give you more XP and Gold in the remake. Personal preference but to me this makes the game too short. In the original, it took a while to grind to be able to afford that Hand Axe or Chain Mail and it was so awesome when you finally bought it. I know not everyone will share this sentiment though and that's OK.

For DQ1 I fully agree and I even wrote a big giant thesis on the progression design of DQ1... how you balance your volatile and non-volatile assets (gold and xp respectively)

The only glaring problem is that when they designed the game they based your natural progression on trial and error - that a player will gradually overcome the dungeons and that failure was acceptable since gold is only valuable in strict brackets whereas xp always accumulates. As such, if you play the game several times and don't spend any time dungeon crawling... you won't get to the required level 17; you'll only be about level 13.

If you didn't use a map (or drew your own instead of googling/player's guide) then all the bad paths and dead ends in the various dungeons equates to more xp... you actually do get to a high enough level under their original philosophy.

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