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Darmik
12/28/20 7:07:24 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Generally 6-7 years.

That's between new consoles yes but generally there's a couple of more years of crossgen games on top of that.

Also maxing out games for 10 years on a 2k PC seems pretty unlikely to me. If you spent that much in 2017 for a new PC you won't be using ray tracing in games today which is the top of the line setting. You really need to have the right sort of timing on top of the right hardware.

But yeah I don't really get this argument or confusion from either side. It's generally pretty obvious why people prefer consoles or PC.

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legendarylemur
12/28/20 9:52:59 PM
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There are very few games even 10 yr old high end computers can't run at absolute max settings. Obviously you won't be running most things ray-tracing but not even the highest end computer you can build performs well with most tiers of 4k ray-tracing so clearly that's not what maxing means atm

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Darmik
12/28/20 10:14:01 PM
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I dunno. Cyberpunk 2077's max setting is ray tracing. That's what makes that game look so phenomenal on PC. It's just getting more and more common.

I'm not even talking about 4k either. Ray tracing is the killer setting right now. It's what NVIDIA bases their new GPU's around. They're developing AI upscaling so you can set it at higher resolutions. It's even a thing for the new consoles. If you have a GPU that's over 2 years old you miss out on that completely and if you spent 2k for that to last 10 years you're probably gonna be pretty disappointed.

No idea how many people are still rocking a GTX 590 in 2020 lol. Even that's missing AA techniques that have been common for the last few years. Aiming for 5 years is better than 10 I think if you truly care about maxing games out. If you don't then yeah 10 years is fine. If turning on ray tracing doesn't mean maxing out I don't really know what maxing out means then lol. Maxing out means turning on all of the graphics settings to me.

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AsucaHayashi
12/29/20 2:51:08 AM
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SwayM posted...
Games are also built FOR consoles. Theres never a doubt that theyll run the games

>claims ignorance about consoles
>proceeds to make the absolute most ignorant statement ITT

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viewmaster_pi
12/29/20 2:52:45 AM
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mario 64

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SwayM
12/29/20 3:10:05 AM
#57:


AsucaHayashi posted...
>claims ignorance about consoles
>proceeds to make the absolute most ignorant statement ITT

xd

It makes people like you mad because you think consoles are holding you back

No ones making exclusively beefy PC games that justify spending a months salary on a rig. Well there is one example. But yall hate it anyway


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Rika_Furude
12/29/20 3:11:19 AM
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just FYI SwayM defends the star citizen ship insurance system and $1000 ships you can lose forever by lagging out one time or the servers crashing lmao

"oh, our servers crashed and you lost your $2000 MTX ship? oops. teehee"

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SwayM
12/29/20 4:45:38 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
just FYI SwayM defends the star citizen ship insurance system and $1000 ships you can lose forever by lagging out one time or the servers crashing lmao

"oh, our servers crashed and you lost your $2000 MTX ship? oops. teehee"

I fucking love that you brought this game up without me having to because it proves my entire topic. this it the one game that would justify owning a $2000+ rig and yall act like this about it. Hilarious

Also you cant lose ships in the game yet. You spend nothing but cool downs to spawn ships. Imagine getting mad at mechanics that dont even exist lol.

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Rika_Furude
12/29/20 5:12:44 AM
#60:


SwayM posted...
without me having to
you already did in post 57

SwayM posted... his it the one game that would justify owning a $2000+ rig and yall act like this about it
imagine your PC costling less than a one-time-use spaceship

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SwayM
12/29/20 5:14:24 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
you already did in post 57

You just wanna pinch his cheeks.

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xmenhavok
12/29/20 5:27:27 AM
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So wait a PS5/xbox is equivalent to a 2000 dollars PC? Wouldn't that mean the console are better for you cause of how cheap they are?
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Rika_Furude
12/29/20 5:28:35 AM
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xmenhavok posted...
So wait a PS5/xbox is equivalent to a 2000 dollars PC?
more like a $1000 pc from 5 years ago.

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xmenhavok
12/29/20 5:41:17 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
more like a $1000 pc from 5 years ago.
Wow.
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SwayM
12/29/20 6:30:20 AM
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xmenhavok posted...
Wow.


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.pcgamesn.com/sony-ps5-release-date-pc-equivalent-build%3famp

tldr:
it costs $900 to build a PC that competes with a $500 PS5 today. And you still dont get anywhere near the entire package.


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Rika_Furude
12/29/20 7:19:24 AM
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you save more money long term with a PC due to steam sales. You can do far more with a PC. you have far more games to play on a PC. And a $1000 PC 5 years ago is still better than a PS5

i guess you arent saving much money when you spend $2000 a day in star citizen cause you lose your ship when the server lags out

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Looked gf
12/29/20 7:20:57 AM
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Rika_Furude
12/29/20 7:22:49 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1zxke5/what_happens_when_your_ship_is_blown_up_from_a/

lmao, you dont even get your ship back immediately if you fell for their scam insurance. you still have to wait
and if you use "aftermarket" space ship parts that nulls your space ship video game insurance
that you spend real life thousands of dollars on

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blablablax17
12/29/20 8:03:07 AM
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Extremely high refresh rates.
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Corrupt_Power
12/29/20 8:12:07 AM
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SwayM posted...
Theres never a doubt that theyll run the games.

30 FPS with gimped lighting fidelity and lowered rendering resolution is not running the game. It's running a kneecapped version of the game.
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Solid Sonic
12/29/20 8:15:03 AM
#72:


Its not about a specific game (although back in the day you could say that about Crysis). Its about improving the general experience and raising the performance ceiling to a desired level.

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SwayM
12/29/20 2:07:04 PM
#73:


Rika_Furude posted...
you save more money long term with a PC due to steam sales

Please go through your steam purchases and share how much money youve spent on the store. Its right there in your account history.

Rika_Furude posted...
lmao

lmao indeed Rika. Did you notice you linked a topic from 6 years ago? Thats entirely speculative?

Go play the game today. You cant lose ships or parts you buy.

again. Mad at shit that doesnt exist.

Corrupt_Power posted...
30 FPS with gimped lighting fidelity and lowered rendering resolution is not running the game. It's running a kneecapped version of the game.

You PC people post shit like this like your enjoyment of a game is better than anyone elses because of extra frames.

Just listen to yourselves please.

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DarkRoast
12/29/20 2:10:29 PM
#74:


legendarylemur posted...
While PS5 and XBOX are impressive, you can make a $2000 PC that's better than the next 2 generations probably. But the thing to consider here is that I bet you the console generation will last like 7-10 years this time around, tho PS and Xbox consoles tend to just be a flat power upgrade so maybe not. You might think it's expensive but at the same time, you either spend the next 10 years enjoying games at max power or... you wait 7-10 years so that maybe a console will be at a competitive power to a PC.

I didn't really get it at first but when I finally built one and saw it effortlessly just crank up the quality to a level PS5/XBOX can't even remotely reach, I finally understood. Also it's very easy to have 2 screens to watch Youtube or Netflix on one and play games on the other, and you can't really do that on a console that easily, unless you watch through a small phone screen or you have a laptop then the costs rack up.

The Series X GPU has about the same compute power as the RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 3070.

I wouldn't say the 3080 and 3090 are "two generations ahead"

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Corrupt_Power
12/29/20 2:10:35 PM
#75:


SwayM posted...
You PC people post shit like this like your enjoyment of a game is better than anyone elses because of extra frames.

Truly spoken like someone who's never experienced 144fps. 30fps feels like a slideshow in comparison.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
12/29/20 2:15:50 PM
#76:


Plenty of reasons for either choice. Dont be a weirdo about it.

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SwayM
12/29/20 2:16:26 PM
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Truly spoken like someone who buys a $2000 rig to play Among us.

I could give a shit how others are enjoying games. The key word in that sentence is enjoy.

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Corrupt_Power
12/29/20 2:18:06 PM
#78:


SwayM posted...
I could give a shit how others are enjoying games

Literally your entire topic contradicts this
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SwayM
12/29/20 2:18:52 PM
#79:


Corrupt_Power posted...
Literally your entire topic contradicts this

I just asked for examples my friend.


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Cocytus
12/29/20 2:20:25 PM
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What justifies anything exorbitant in price?
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Giblet_Enjoyer
12/29/20 3:16:45 PM
#81:


Darmik posted...
That's between new consoles yes but generally there's a couple of more years of crossgen games on top of that.
Usually sparse as fuck and they're gimpy, shit versions though. See: Cyberpunk 2077, the game that runs at 10 FPS on last-gen consoles lmao

I like that you ignored my post about Total War btw and just continued to act like no game on PC takes advantage of ridiculous hardware even though there's an entire series of very notable games that do in fact

Not to mention just about every open-world AAA game that is clearly built with high-end PCs in mind, basically all of them scale with ridiculous hardware and generally run like ass on console. (note that this is not the same thing as being unsatisfactory to console gamers, as we all know the standards are much higher on PC and 30FPS is generally not tolerated there)


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xmenhavok
12/29/20 8:20:29 PM
#82:


So is pc better than a ps5/xbox.
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Socrawheeze
12/29/20 8:21:30 PM
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that's really just an enthusiast price level. or people who really like the most expensive stuff, I guess
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blablablax17
12/30/20 7:55:32 AM
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If you don't get any RGB, (which you shouldn't, because EVERYONE knows increases your FPS) you can get a banging system for much less than $2000.
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