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PoundGarden
12/30/20 12:41:14 PM
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Would you come to the aid of a cop if asked?





Scenario: you're walking down the street and round the corner to see a cop struggling with a black man. You did not see what led up to this and the cop is clearly losing this fight, so he asks for your assistance. The man he is fighting with is adamant he did nothing and was just tackled by the cop for no reason and also asks for your help, he just wants to go home and doesnt look dangerous or the type to fight a cop.

What do you do?

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Socrawheeze
12/30/20 12:41:54 PM
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I'll just keep walking. I'm not about to get arrested for not helping
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Timohtep
12/30/20 12:42:44 PM
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Film.

I'm not qualified to judge what is happening but I am qualified to document it. Also I'd rather not jump into a fight.
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PoundGarden
12/30/20 12:44:55 PM
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Timohtep posted...
Film.

I'm not qualified to judge what is happening but I am qualified to document it. Also I'd rather not jump into a fight.

Damn, I should have made "document" an option

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Itennu
12/30/20 12:45:00 PM
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cover my face and run

anything else is a bad bad bad bad idea

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ModLogic
12/30/20 12:46:56 PM
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Jagr_68
12/30/20 12:49:16 PM
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Timohtep posted...
Film.

I'm not qualified to judge what is happening but I am qualified to document it. Also I'd rather not jump into a fight.

Yeah the average citizen has no business putting themselves at risk for a cop regardless of the situation but you can bet your ass they're gonna come after you for that. Rather look like a jerk with a phone out than be falsely arrested.

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SquirtleSkwad
12/30/20 12:50:41 PM
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Nope. Their fraternity has made it all too clear what they stand for, and it's not to protect and serve. Karma will serve better justice on that potential criminal than a cop ever could.

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Socrawheeze
12/30/20 12:51:28 PM
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What gets me is I really don't know how police can sleep at night. They have to be aware of the damage they do, right? I guess not since so many seem to actually think of themselves as forces for good, if not outright heroes
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EmbraceOfDeath
12/30/20 12:51:52 PM
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Cops aren't even legally obligated to help civilians and often don't. They can get the same treatment from me.

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Philoktetes
12/30/20 12:52:27 PM
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yes because im not an edgelord who thinks it's cool to hate authority
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PoundGarden
12/30/20 12:54:12 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
yes because im not an edgelord who thinks it's cool to hate authority

Ah, so you just assume cops are always in the right? Am I interpreting that correctly?

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SquirtleSkwad
12/30/20 12:56:30 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
yes because im not an edgelord who thinks it's cool to hate authority
There are other reasons not to listen to you.

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Jagr_68
12/30/20 12:56:58 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
yes because im not an edgelord who thinks it's cool to hate authority

PoundGarden posted...
The man he is fighting with is adamant he did nothing and was just tackled by the cop for no reason and also asks for your help

>wants to help cop beat up black man
>not an edgelord

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CanuckCowboy
12/30/20 12:58:14 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
yes because im not an edgelord who thinks it's cool to hate authority

Ahhhh yes. Cause clearly that's the only possible reason not to jump into a dangerous situation you have no knowledge of and no authority in as a civilian.

Cops around here are always saying no one should get involved in stopping a crime or assault under any circumstances and should allow police to handle it.

It would go against their publicly stated policy to even be asking a civilian to jump in.


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SquirtleSkwad
12/30/20 12:59:00 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Ahhhh yes. Cause clearly that's the only possible reason not to jump into a dangerous situation you have no knowledge of and no authority in as a civilian.

Cops around here are always saying no one should get involved in stopping a crime or assault under any circumstances and should allow police to handle it.

It would go against their publicly stated policy to even be asking a civilian to jump in.
The guy only posts to share shitty takes. Like contemplatively shitty takes.

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Light_Dragon
12/30/20 1:00:05 PM
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I'd like to help anyone who needs it, though I have a chance of being seen as a threat to them because of my skin colour.

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brestugo
12/30/20 1:02:14 PM
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How's her ass?

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PoundGarden
12/30/20 1:02:29 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
It would go against their publicly stated policy to even be asking a civilian to jump in.

Bingo. Granted having your ass whipped would make people forget that policy in the heat of the beating, that seems reasonable.

However, should the man be found to have told the truth that he did nothing wrong and he was in fact a victim of police brutality, would that not open the civilian as well as the cop up to a lawsuit? I know if that happened to me I'm suing everyone involved.

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PoundGarden
12/30/20 1:04:27 PM
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Light_Dragon posted...
I'd like to help anyone who needs it, though I have a chance of being seen as a threat to them because of my skin colour.

Another great point. Say you get involved and the cops backup arrives to see two minorities and their "brother" involved in a scuffle. History shows they're probably not going to sort it out and just start shooting/beating everyone involved who isnt white or blue

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brestugo
12/30/20 1:05:43 PM
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In CA, a bystander can refuse to assist a police officer.

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CanuckCowboy
12/30/20 1:06:39 PM
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Or you choose to help the cop and the moment you get the guy off him he goes for his gun and shoots the guy.

I wouldn't want to have to live with that and while it's not likely its not as though a cop shooting a black person he just had an altercation with is exactly hard to imagine.

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Master_Bass
12/30/20 1:12:11 PM
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Nope. I'm not trained for that sort of thing and definitely do not have the same protections as cops. Also, who knows what that guy did? He could be dangerous, or maybe the cop is just power tripping which I want nothing to do with.

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R1masher
12/30/20 1:13:14 PM
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Are my king fu powers enhanced in this hypothetical scenario?

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PoundGarden
12/30/20 1:13:52 PM
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R1masher posted...
Are my king fu powers enhanced in this hypothetical scenario?

Sure, why not

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R1masher
12/30/20 1:16:43 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
Sure, why not

great, I subdue them both and take them to my king fu master and show him I have snatched the pebble and Im ready to ascend

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IXI_Fission_IXI
12/30/20 1:17:53 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
Ah, so you just assume cops are always in the right? Am I interpreting that correctly?

Can you discern the difference between a cop being right and doing the right thing regardless?

Doubt it.
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PoundGarden
12/30/20 1:22:08 PM
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IXI_Fission_IXI posted...
Can you discern the difference between a cop being right and doing the right thing regardless?

Doubt it.

But if he did in fact harass and beat this man over his race, in what world is helping the cop the "right thing". That just makes you just as bad as the cop because you literally saw a black man being beaten and assumed he deserved it/it is justified.

I get what you're saying, but cops have lost the privilege of benefit of the doubt with many americans.

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IXI_Fission_IXI
12/30/20 8:41:45 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
But if he did in fact harass and beat this man over his race

PoundGarden posted...
You did not see what led up to this and the cop is clearly losing this fight

Holy shit. I really hope your neck is ok from the whiplash you just gave yourself.
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SergeantGander
12/30/20 8:45:03 PM
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I would attempt to deescalate the scenario by trying to separate the two. Probably by grabbing the man, not the cop idk. Just somehow try to put myself between the two.

Standing by and watching the fight is just asking for things to get worse.

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nothanks1
12/30/20 8:46:20 PM
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have voice recorded on phone, ask him to repeat his request, help restrain.
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Dark_SilverX
12/30/20 8:48:33 PM
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Practice social distance.

In the year of our Covid it is best to wear mask, stand 6 feet and wash hands no matter what.

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Lordofkhyber
12/30/20 8:49:13 PM
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Hard to tell what I'd do in the heat of the moment

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nfearurspecimn
12/30/20 8:52:01 PM
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seems like some people still aren't familiar with philok's schtick lol

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Inferno Dive Dragoon
12/30/20 9:01:01 PM
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Shrug and walk away.

That's what I did last time anyway (albeit the other man wasn't black).
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ShineboxPhil
12/30/20 9:07:42 PM
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Keep walking. You're just a civilian and not trained to deal with police matters. Don't get involved in something that can fuck you over criminally or civilly.

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Ving_Rhames
12/30/20 9:10:51 PM
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None of my business. They aren't required to help civilians so I'm not required to help them either.

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ShineboxPhil
12/30/20 9:11:33 PM
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And to further add, you're completely clueless as to what transpired. For all we know the person the police officer is engaged with is armed with a gun or knife.

Don't be a hero.

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The_Korey
12/30/20 9:13:43 PM
#39:


PoundGarden posted...
Would you come to the aid of a cop if asked?

Yes, but not in this scenario. I help with something I'm actually kapable of and don't have to do a ton of moral guess work, not determine the badguy between 2 strangers already at each others throats.

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