Current Events > Destroy the notion that being anti-China means you're pro-USA

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Veggeta X
12/31/20 5:38:33 AM
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Both Sides

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Questionmarktarius
12/31/20 5:41:38 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Both Sides
All sides.

No government is innocent, except maybe Finland. Even then, not very.
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ModLogic
12/31/20 5:42:01 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
That's your perspective, it's far more nuanced than that.

The US has decided to allow Indigineous Americans to be recognized and they get to live on their Reservations.

If they want to be "Indigenous Americans", they can. They have their own criteria for what it means to be "Indigenous" including ancestral purity tests. That's their own issue at that point.

They should be happy that the US government has agreed to that.

As for Japan, that's their own internal matters and the US has bigger fish to fry.
cool but you feel that ryukyuans should not have that choice. and their voices should be ignored.


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TheMikh
12/31/20 5:46:21 AM
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i just want to be a fly on the wall of an auditorium hosting a debate between thomas jefferson and deng xiaoping

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KamenRiderBlade
12/31/20 5:47:53 AM
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ModLogic posted...
cool but you feel that ryukyuans should not have that choice. and their voices should be ignored.
I feel that Ryukyuans should work within the system and get the Japanese Government to recognize them.

That's their OWN INTERNAL matters. They have a representative within their Parliament/Congress.

Work within the system to get recognized.

It isn't going to change the US military Base situation, that's on a whole different level of Global & National security concerns.

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ssjevot
12/31/20 5:48:57 AM
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There is an independence movement in Okinawa but it lost basically all popularity after China started supporting it and claiming Okinawa was once part of China. Now it polls at like 5%, compared to the high 20s it was before China started calling for "independence" (an excuse to annex them for China).

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KamenRiderBlade
12/31/20 5:50:28 AM
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ssjevot posted...
There is an independence movement in Okinawa but it lost basically all popularity after China started supporting it and claiming Okinawa was once part of China. Now it polls at like 5%, compared to the high 20s it was before China started calling for "independence" (an excuse to annex them for China).
The CCP wants to annex EVERYTHING.

They believe they have a claim to the North Pole & South Pole despite not being anywhere near them.

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ModLogic
12/31/20 5:57:49 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
I feel that Ryukyuans should work within the system and get the Japanese Government to recognize them.

That's their OWN INTERNAL matters. They have a representative within their Parliament/Congress.

Work within the system to get recognized.

It isn't going to change the US military Base situation, that's on a whole different level of Global & National security concerns.
they arent going to get recognized.

  • 70.6% of the land in Japan that is exclusive to U.S. military facilities are concentrated in Okinawa, which accounts for only 0.6% of the total land area of Japan.

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KamenRiderBlade
12/31/20 6:00:41 AM
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ModLogic posted...
70.6% of the land in Japan that is exclusive to U.S. military facilities are concentrated in Okinawa, which accounts for only 0.6% of the total land area of Japan.
It's also in one of the most Geo Strategic Important Areas when it comes to countering China & North Korea.

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CosmicShadows
12/31/20 6:03:13 AM
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This is a boring ass topic.
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scar the 1
12/31/20 6:12:03 AM
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I think this a little bit of a complicated issue. No doubt China's govt is bad, but when it's westerners saying it, I turn quite skeptical. Of course we are going to say it's bad, we get fed a very skewed version of that country. Even if we consider that some of it is exaggerated propaganda, there's still not a lot to argue with. What makes me even more skeptical is when China gets shat on for things the west are just as guilty of. Again, yeah, China is bad, but singling out them for crimes that Europe and America are complicit in? I get vibes that a lot of people are more interested in shitting on China no matter what, than they are interested in recognizing horrendous crimes against innocent people.

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scar the 1
12/31/20 6:24:02 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
All sides.

No government is innocent, except maybe Finland. Even then, not very.
Yeah Finland, just like Sweden, Norway, and Russia, are guilty of taking Sapmi lands by forced and destroying it for profit. Definitely not innocent

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