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BlingBling22947 01/01/21 1:35:40 PM #1:	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/microsoft-may-be-developing-its-own-in-house-arm-cpu-designs --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:948991119] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/microsoft-may-be-developing-its-own-in-house-arm-cpu-designs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrupt_Power 01/01/21 1:38:19 PM #2:	I have a hard time seeing x86/64 dying any time soon, if at all. Almost everything is built and optimized for it, and as far as I know (admittedly I've not done too much research on this) ARM still doesn't really compete on the high performance end of things. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>Corrupt_Power posted [p:948991206] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>I have a hard time seeing x86/64 dying any time soon, if at all. Almost everything is built and optimized for it, and as far as I know (admittedly I've not done too much research on this) ARM still doesn't really compete on the high performance end of things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowplay 01/01/21 1:47:06 PM #3:	Article says it will most likely be for data center use and less likely for their Surface PCs. If they do decide to use it in their Surface line, it probably won't last long given that they already did that for the first few Surface PCs before consumers demanded to be able to run real Windows programs, at which point they started using x64 based CPUs. --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob <cite>Shadowplay posted [p:948991455] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>Article says it will most likely be for data center use and less likely for their Surface PCs. If they do decide to use it in their Surface line, it probably won't last long given that they already did that for the first few Surface PCs before consumers demanded to be able to run real Windows programs, at which point they started using x64 based CPUs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Edification 01/01/21 1:50:03 PM #4:	Shadowplay posted... Article says it will most likely be for data center use and less likely for their Surface PCs. If they do decide to use it in their Surface line, it probably won't last long given that they already did that for the first few Surface PCs before consumers demanded to be able to run real Windows programs, at which point they started using x64 based CPUs. arent Apple doing their own cpus now? <cite>Edification posted [p:948991523] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>Shadowplay posted... </cite> <quote>Article says it will most likely be for data center use and less likely for their Surface PCs. If they do decide to use it in their Surface line, it probably won't last long given that they already did that for the first few Surface PCs before consumers demanded to be able to run real Windows programs, at which point they started using x64 based CPUs.</quote> arent Apple doing their own cpus now? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/01/21 1:50:52 PM #5:	Edification posted... arent Apple doing their own cpus now? yeah, but apple has a long history of telling software developers to either rewrite their stuff or piss off whenever they release an update that makes all their old stuff incompatible. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:948991554] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>Edification posted... </cite> <quote>arent Apple doing their own cpus now?</quote> yeah, but apple has a long history of telling software developers to either rewrite their stuff or piss off whenever they release an update that makes all their old stuff incompatible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowplay 01/01/21 1:52:18 PM #6:	Edification posted... arent Apple doing their own cpus now? To be fair, people have to make a separate version of a program for MacOS anyway. --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob <cite>Shadowplay posted [p:948991590] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>Edification posted... </cite> <quote>arent Apple doing their own cpus now?</quote>To be fair, people have to make a separate version of a program for MacOS anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 01/03/21 5:40:30 AM #7:	yeah, Im not upgrading my personal computers any time soon Im sure that Ill always be able to toss Unix on my old machines and get by anyway. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:949046749] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>yeah, Im not upgrading my personal computers any time soon Im sure that Ill always be able to toss Unix on my old machines and get by anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 01/04/21 10:35:27 PM #8:	I'm fairly wary of each of the tech giants developing their own system on a chip variants seems like they're all trying to stake out their market share and lock us in --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:949113161] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>I'm fairly wary of each of the tech giants developing their own system on a chip variants seems like they're all trying to stake out their market share and lock us in </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 01/07/21 6:00:26 AM #9:	a linux variant for the new mac is in development. Same will happen with this windows shizz. Linux will become the only crossplatform os once again. the annoying thing though is that while they all seem to be exploring arm chipsets, they'll have just slightly different instruction sets so everything needs to be rebuilt between platforms. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:949212316] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>a linux variant for the new mac is in development. Same will happen with this windows shizz. Linux will become the only crossplatform os once again. the annoying thing though is that while they all seem to be exploring arm chipsets, they'll have just slightly different instruction sets so everything needs to be rebuilt between platforms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 01/07/21 6:13:45 AM #10:	more competitors in the CPU market is a good thing, even if you illogically hate the apple and microsoft "boogyman" x86 processors arent going away any time soon because nothing competes with them performance wise. but the fact that there are alternatives which are getting better is good for the consumer. ARM is already pretty good and is only going to get better. microsoft wont make windows ARM only like post #9 implies. that would cripple microsofts core market which is enterprise --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:949212447] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>more competitors in the CPU market is a good thing, even if you illogically hate the apple and microsoft "boogyman" x86 processors arent going away any time soon because nothing competes with them performance wise. but the fact that there are alternatives which are getting better is good for the consumer. ARM is already pretty good and is only going to get better. microsoft wont make windows ARM only like post #9 implies. that would cripple microsofts core market which is enterprise </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 01/09/21 5:45:29 AM #11:	does not put intel in a great position though --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:949294984] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>does not put intel in a great position though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lonestar2000 01/09/21 6:18:26 AM #12:	Edification posted... arent Apple doing their own cpus now? They have an interpreter for running x86 code on ARM. --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImpeachToadDickTrump <cite>Lonestar2000 posted [p:949295320] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>Edification posted... </cite> <quote>arent Apple doing their own cpus now?</quote>They have an interpreter for running x86 code on ARM. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/09/21 6:31:37 AM #13:	x86 dates back to 1976. Intel keeping going this long is a miracle. They can theoretically keep it going forever, but eventually silicon is going to give up. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:949295511] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>x86 dates back to 1976. Intel keeping going this long is a miracle. They can theoretically keep it going forever, but eventually silicon is going to give up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 01/11/21 4:30:37 AM #14:	although the fact that some monopolies can be this fragile makes me just a little ~~happy~~ --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:949369731] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>although the fact that some monopolies can be this fragile makes me just a little happy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 01/13/21 5:00:09 AM #15:	Corrupt_Power posted... I have a hard time seeing x86/64 dying any time soon, if at all. Almost everything is built and optimized for it, and as far as I know (admittedly I've not done too much research on this) ARM still doesn't really compete on the high performance end of things. Learn ARM assembly and it will become clear. A wish like this has a solution. Unfortunately that's a time investment but I think it pays off. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:949446486] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>Corrupt_Power posted... </cite> <quote>I have a hard time seeing x86/64 dying any time soon, if at all. Almost everything is built and optimized for it, and as far as I know (admittedly I've not done too much research on this) ARM still doesn't really compete on the high performance end of things.</quote> Learn ARM assembly and it will become clear. A wish like this has a solution. Unfortunately that's a time investment but I think it pays off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/13/21 10:27:41 AM #16:	BlingBling22947 posted... Learn ARM assembly and it will become clear. And that's the problem. Nobody learns assembly, apparently not even the compiler developers. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:949451834] in x86 is in ... [t:79212594]...</cite> <quote>BlingBling22947 posted... </cite> <quote>Learn ARM assembly and it will become clear.</quote>And that's the problem. Nobody learns assembly, apparently not even the compiler developers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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