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TheHoldSteady 01/09/21 2:35:58 PM #1: |
Playing devils advocate here but I keep seeing this on Reddit and it drives me bananas considering Twitter Inc is a publicly traded company >_>
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MrToothHasYou 01/09/21 2:36:49 PM #2: |
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ThePieReborn 01/09/21 2:38:01 PM #3: |
Yes? That doesn't change the private nature (that is, not owned/operated by the government) of the company. It having shareholders and its shares being available to the public for trade does not change that characterization.
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CADE FOSTER 01/09/21 2:38:36 PM #4: |
Freedom of speech only protects you from the government if the gov owned twitter then sure but they dont sheesh
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Smackems 01/09/21 2:39:40 PM #6: |
Just make your own platform
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Tenlaar 01/09/21 2:39:41 PM #7: |
TheHoldSteady posted...
Playing devils advocate here but I keep seeing this on Reddit and it drives me bananas considering Twitter Inc is a publicly traded company >_>The words you're using don't mean what you think they mean, that is your problem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnvoyOfTheLight 01/09/21 2:39:59 PM #8: |
I don't think tc is talking about the freedom of speech angle here, guys.
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CADE FOSTER 01/09/21 2:40:27 PM #9: |
for the dumb dumbs that dont know what freedom of speech entails ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 01/09/21 2:40:43 PM #10: |
The freedom of speech angle isn't the only way the characterization is wrong.
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Medussa 01/09/21 2:41:00 PM #11: |
i'm honestly not sure if it's worse if TC is trolling or if he's actually this misinformed.
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CableZL 01/09/21 2:41:43 PM #12: |
Twitter being publicly traded still doesn't mean it's owned by the government.
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Jabodie 01/09/21 2:41:44 PM #13: |
Medussa posted...
i'm honestly not sure if it's worse if TC is trolling or if he's actually this misinformed.Probably a joke topic --- <insert sig here> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoctorPiranha3 01/09/21 2:43:08 PM #14: |
Conservatives: Muh free market!
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King_Hutton 01/09/21 2:46:47 PM #15: |
Publicly traded companies are still owned by investors and not the government
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TheHoldSteady 01/09/21 2:47:33 PM #16: |
King_Hutton posted...
Publicly traded companies are still owned by investors and not the government The investors are the public >_> --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hop103 01/09/21 2:48:07 PM #17: |
Muh private business is no excuse in their case, they are a platform not a publisher like say the NYT or the WSJ.
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CADE FOSTER 01/09/21 2:48:38 PM #18: |
tc just being willfully stupid at this point this is concern trolling
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King_Hutton 01/09/21 2:49:39 PM #19: |
TheHoldSteady posted...
The investors are the public >_>Are you fucking with me right now or do you actually not understand this? --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheHoldSteady 01/09/21 2:49:52 PM #20: |
King_Hutton posted...
Are you fucking with me right now or do you actually not understand this? The former --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 01/09/21 2:50:03 PM #21: |
TheHoldSteady posted...
The public can ban your free speech. The government cant. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrToothHasYou 01/09/21 2:50:15 PM #22: |
TheHoldSteady posted...
The investors are the public >_>ah, youre just trolling go on then --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hutton 01/09/21 2:51:11 PM #23: |
TheHoldSteady posted...
The formerGood, its hard to tell. Ive had to explain this to middle aged idiots before. --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thatguyonthebus 01/09/21 2:58:31 PM #24: |
TC may be trolling but he raises some good points
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Medussa 01/09/21 2:59:28 PM #25: |
Thatguyonthebus posted...
TC may be trolling but he raises some good points that we desperately need to be significantly harsher on trolls? both here and on twitter? yes, please. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! In recognition of your overwhelming victory, let's call it a draw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 01/09/21 2:59:39 PM #26: |
There is some worry about platforms solidifying themselves as the only option and using such tactics to silence views they don't like. This is categorically not the case with Trump and those inciting violence, but we shouldn't implicitly trust the companies not to use this as a convenient springboard. We definitely need more competition that can hopefully grow a broad audience rather than becoming right-wing echochambers like the big names in the news currently.
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Rhylos 01/09/21 3:01:27 PM #27: |
Remember when a court ruled that Trump couldn't block people because he's a public figure and twitter's considered a public forum? That's not okay, but banning people from a public forum, even public figures, is okay.
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Fluttershy 01/09/21 3:10:32 PM #28: |
well when that public figure uses the platform to incite acts of domestic terrorism you kinda have an obligation.
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King_Hutton 01/09/21 3:23:43 PM #29: |
Rhylos posted...
Remember when a court ruled that Trump couldn't block people because he's a public figure and twitter's considered a public forum? That's not okay, but banning people from a public forum, even public figures, is okay.lmao his administration declared that his tweets were official presidential statements so he wasnt allowed to prevent people from reading them, stop spreading disinformation --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rhylos 01/09/21 3:28:20 PM #30: |
King_Hutton posted...
lmao his administration declared that his tweets were official presidential statements so he wasnt allowed to prevent people from reading them, stop spreading disinformation https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/09/federal-appeals-court-rules-donald-trump-cant-block-people-twitter/1682321001/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SquirtleSkwad 01/09/21 3:29:04 PM #31: |
Maybe do more reading before sharing this sort of opinion with others.
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AlphaCuck 01/09/21 3:30:32 PM #32: |
i guess twitter missed the video he posted where he very strongly condemned the protest
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King_Hutton 01/09/21 3:31:04 PM #33: |
Rhylos posted...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/09/federal-appeals-court-rules-donald-trump-cant-block-people-twitter/1682321001/You didnt read that, did you? --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 01/09/21 3:31:54 PM #34: |
Rhylos posted...
Remember when a court ruled that Trump couldn't block people because he's a public figure and twitter's considered a public forum? That's not okay, but banning people from a public forum, even public figures, is okay.When did they say Twitter is considered a public forum? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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discodancer77 01/09/21 3:33:41 PM #35: |
Public company usually means government-owned
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averagejoel 01/09/21 3:36:05 PM #36: |
Hop103 posted...
Muh private business is no excuse in their case, they are a platform not a publisher like say the NYT or the WSJ.the NYT and WSJ are also platforms --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joe40001 01/09/21 3:39:56 PM #37: |
Anybody who is happy with "Twitter can ban anybody they want" as a perspective better understand that "Twitter can ban anybody they want".
It's fine if those are the rules, but you cannot be shocked or offended if they come for somebody you like or for reasons you think are dumb. I'm not passing judgement on it, just pointing out that it is very unlikely people with such power over the public discourse will wield it 100% in the way you want. But today they are our friends so "yay", I suppose... --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/09/21 3:40:56 PM #38: |
A public business means owned by the government. So...
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legendary_zell 01/09/21 3:45:16 PM #39: |
Smackems posted...
Just make your own platform Yes, if the platform you use is a sounding board for advocating the storming of the Capitol for the purposes of a violent coup to install a fascist dictator, you might be shut down. Short of that happening, you have little to worry about. Voat is still up, 4 chan is still up, etc. It's not our fault that every single right wing space inevitably turns into a hateful criminal hellhole. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 01/09/21 3:47:12 PM #40: |
joe40001 posted...
It's fine if those are the rules, but you cannot be shocked or offended if they come for somebody you like or for reasons you think are dumb.They already do! --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 01/09/21 3:49:01 PM #41: |
MrToothHasYou posted...
Publicly traded is still privately owned. would have took TC 2 minutes to find this out if he wasnt too stupid to look. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 01/09/21 3:49:31 PM #42: |
BakonBitz posted...
A public business means owned by the government. So...I thought it meant a company with shareholders? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoMeLx22x 01/09/21 3:49:52 PM #43: |
legendary_zell posted...
Yes, if the platform you use is a sounding board for advocating the storming of the Capitol for the purposes of a violent coup to install a fascist dictator, you might be shut down. Short of that happening, you have little to worry about. Voat is still up, 4 chan is still up, etc. It's not our fault that every single right wing space inevitably turns into a hateful criminal hellhole. Also, you should add that they're not being forced to shut down by any means, just the two biggest app stores don't wanna host their app because of the stuff you mentioned, which who can blame them? --- Sigs are for losers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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discodancer77 01/09/21 4:47:25 PM #44: |
Ruvan22 posted...
I thought it meant a company with shareholders? thats when a company goes public. Basically opens itself to allowing other ppl part ownership through shares. Public companies, think government-run hospitals, or the electric company --- Patient Gamer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 01/09/21 5:02:15 PM #45: |
discodancer77 posted...
thats when a company goes public. Basically opens itself to allowing other ppl part ownership through shares.So then Twitter is *not* a public company? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SPE 01/09/21 5:04:50 PM #46: |
TheHoldSteady posted...
Playing devils advocate here but I keep seeing this on Reddit and it drives me bananas considering Twitter Inc is a publicly traded company >_> publicly traded =\= publicly owned enjoy your banana split @TheHoldSteady --- Welcome to the Spore Store! My shrooms are delicious, suspicious, but never malicious! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MutantJohn 01/09/21 5:27:05 PM #47: |
Fwiw, unbridled free speech was never really permitted.
You can't, for example, walk around an office building telling everyone there's a fire or that there's an armed gunman when there isn't. What we have here is a president who abused his position to convince people of something that he's repeatedly failed to prove at every level of the justice system. In this case, twitter is more than justified in banning him from their platform. That shouldn't even be up for debate. Had Donald Trump successfully won some of this suits about election fraud, it'd be different. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 01/09/21 5:37:40 PM #48: |
CADE FOSTER posted...
I think that's not untrue, but at the same time free speech is more than just the First Amendment. I hate to be the devil's advocate about this because I really hate what Trump supporters are doing right now, but people's lives getting ruined is not a good thing, even if they brought it upon themselves and deserve it. Rehabilitation is better than punishment. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 01/09/21 6:00:05 PM #49: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
I think that's not untrue, but at the same time free speech is more than just the First Amendment.Al How would you define free speech then? B) Whose life was ruined that you feel could have been rehabilitated? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joe40001 01/09/21 6:02:18 PM #50: |
Ruvan22 posted...
Al How would you define free speech then? Free speech often refers to the ideal of free speech "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" is not just talking about not jailing people. It's about allowing people you fundamentally disagree with to still be heard. And you can get through to people even further gone than Trump supporters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORp3q1Oaezw --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alpha218 01/09/21 6:02:50 PM #51: |
twitter isn't the us government
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