Current Events > so is trump's impeachment p much guaranteed?

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cavalierking
01/14/21 4:12:25 AM
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like, are there any plausible scenarios in which it doesn't actually go through?

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pogo_rabid
01/14/21 4:13:59 AM
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Pretty much. They're not even defending him anymore, they main republican talking point is "we're rushing things".

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PMarth2002
01/14/21 4:14:33 AM
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No. Its not impossible, but you need a 2/3 majority in the senate to impeach.

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AldousIsDead
01/14/21 4:15:26 AM
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Trump is currently impeached for the second time. You're asking if he'll be convicted, which I suspect is a long shot. I'd love to be surprised once though.

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UnholyMudcrab
01/14/21 4:20:36 AM
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Crazyman93
01/14/21 4:22:06 AM
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cavalierking posted...
like, are there any plausible scenarios in which it doesn't actually go through?
Yes, there is. Senate procedure drags on long enough that there's no way this gets done by Wednesday.

And that's probably what's going to happen.

Oh, and since no one on CE seems to get it, impeachment is not the same as leveling criminal charges, impeachment just determines if he gets removed from office.

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Guns_of_Verdun
01/14/21 4:25:54 AM
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He has been impeached

but he won't be removed

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PrettyBoyFloyd
01/14/21 4:27:31 AM
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Don't he have like 6 days left anyway?


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Crazyman93
01/14/21 4:28:17 AM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Don't he have like 6 days left anyway?
Counting today, 7.

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cavalierking
01/14/21 4:28:30 AM
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so if it's not looking like he'll actually get removed, then was everything that happened yesterday p much just theater?

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Parappa09
01/14/21 4:30:24 AM
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i remember in a-level politics when we studied the US system, we always got confused what counts as impeachment (House voting to start the process vs. Senate trial result)

but yeah i can't see the senate convicting him


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nfearurspecimn
01/14/21 4:31:34 AM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
he won't be removed

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Crazyman93
01/14/21 4:36:24 AM
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Parappa09 posted...
i remember in a-level politics when we studied the US system, we always got confused what counts as impeachment (House voting to start the process vs. Senate trial result)
Don't feel bad, because I'm fairly sure most Americans can't tell you either. Impeachment is the actual trial. Case in point, Clinton was impeached but was not convicted due to some SERIOUS dictionary gymnastics (no seriously, he basically legally told the truth while lying.) Conviction is a removal from office.

cavalierking posted...
so if it's not looking like he'll actually get removed, then was everything that happened yesterday p much just theater?
Pretty much, but at the same time, I don't think the US has ever bothered to impeach a president less than a week before he'd be out anyway, so there's no constitutional precedent for what happens.

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nfearurspecimn
01/14/21 4:38:22 AM
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who posted

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EnvoyOfTheLight
01/14/21 4:41:56 AM
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cavalierking posted...
so if it's not looking like he'll actually get removed, then was everything that happened yesterday p much just theater?

More than that. Being removed means he gets none of the benefits of being a former president, and that he can never run for office again.

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Parappa09
01/14/21 1:03:34 PM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Don't feel bad, because I'm fairly sure most Americans can't tell you either. Impeachment is the actual trial. Case in point, Clinton was impeached but was not convicted due to some SERIOUS dictionary gymnastics (no seriously, he basically legally told the truth while lying.) Conviction is a removal from office.
i remember when my teacher said Clinton wasn't impeached but we had to convince her that he was but not convinced

i totally see how confusing it can be

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ChainedRedone
01/14/21 9:16:20 PM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Counting today, 7.
You never count the current day. Because a full day would be tomorrow.

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Crazyman93
01/14/21 11:24:31 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
You never count the current day. Because a full day would be tomorrow.
If we're counting using business hours I posted at 4AM, well before most of your congressmen are awake.

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