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ModLogic 01/14/21 10:30:18 PM #51:	FortuneCookie posted... I forget. Why were people upset? in an alternate universe they still went out of their way to portray black people as slaves --- https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM <cite>ModLogic posted [p:949514627] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite> <quote>I forget. Why were people upset?</quote>in an alternate universe they still went out of their way to portray black people as slaves </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 01/14/21 10:32:49 PM #52:	I don't know why people are surprised a black man with a time machine is going to stop slavery. Might as well get mad at a Jewish man using a time machine to stop the holocaust. I think the main issue is Jax's character never gave any lip service to this until now so it came out of nowhere and looked like woke pandering. --- https://imgur.com/Asq1ds6 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:949514710] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>I don't know why people are surprised a black man with a time machine is going to stop slavery. Might as well get mad at a Jewish man using a time machine to stop the holocaust. I think the main issue is Jax's character never gave any lip service to this until now so it came out of nowhere and looked like woke pandering. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/14/21 10:44:47 PM #53:	AmericaTheBrave posted... I don't know why people are surprised a black man with a time machine is going to stop slavery. Might as well get mad at a Jewish man using a time machine to stop the holocaust. I think the main issue is Jax's character never gave any lip service to this until now so it came out of nowhere and looked like woke pandering. "Woke pandering" back in 1995. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949515055] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>AmericaTheBrave posted... </cite> <quote>I don't know why people are surprised a black man with a time machine is going to stop slavery. Might as well get mad at a Jewish man using a time machine to stop the holocaust. I think the main issue is Jax's character never gave any lip service to this until now so it came out of nowhere and looked like woke pandering.</quote> "Woke pandering" back in 1995. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lightwarrior78 01/14/21 10:49:08 PM #54:	First time I've actually watched it. It really does seem hokey. We can make the world perfect with no consequences seems antithetical to a time travel story of that nature. It would almost be a story worth hearing about, but I think it might have been better adding in at least a few specifics of his early mistakes. "Failed the first time. Acted like White men invented and were the only slavers in the world. My mistake. Went further back, nearly unwove all of history into oblivion. Tried again". But then, that's how one commentator (name withheld) saw it as troubling. To build Jax's perfect future would be a lot, and I mean a LOT of little manipulations that essentailly remove legitimate free will. If you make the wrong choice, he goes back and changes factors until you make his choice. It's a perfect world, but we're essentially slaves to Jax. --- I'm not saying that less toxic gaming journalists would lead to less toxic gamers. I'm just saying there's no proof to the contrary. <cite>lightwarrior78 posted [p:949515190] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>First time I've actually watched it. It really does seem hokey. We can make the world perfect with no consequences seems antithetical to a time travel story of that nature. It would almost be a story worth hearing about, but I think it might have been better adding in at least a few specifics of his early mistakes. "Failed the first time. Acted like White men invented and were the only slavers in the world. My mistake. Went further back, nearly unwove all of history into oblivion. Tried again". But then, that's how one commentator (name withheld) saw it as troubling. To build Jax's perfect future would be a lot, and I mean a LOT of little manipulations that essentailly remove legitimate free will. If you make the wrong choice, he goes back and changes factors until you make his choice. It's a perfect world, but we're essentially slaves to Jax. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/14/21 10:50:30 PM #55:	lightwarrior78 posted... First time I've actually watched it. It really does seem hokey. We can make the world perfect with no consequences seems antithetical to a time travel story of that nature. It would almost be a story worth hearing about, but I think it might have been better adding in at least a few specifics of his early mistakes. "Failed the first time. Acted like White men invented and were the only slavers in the world. My mistake. Went further back, nearly unwove all of history into oblivion. Tried again". But then, that's how one commentator (name withheld) saw it as troubling. To build Jax's perfect future would be a lot, and I mean a LOT of little manipulations that essentailly remove legitimate free will. If you make the wrong choice, he goes back and changes factors until you make his choice. It's a perfect world, but we're essentially slaves to Jax. Oh oh, looks we like got some white fragility happening here. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949515233] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>lightwarrior78 posted... </cite> <quote>First time I've actually watched it. It really does seem hokey. We can make the world perfect with no consequences seems antithetical to a time travel story of that nature. It would almost be a story worth hearing about, but I think it might have been better adding in at least a few specifics of his early mistakes. "Failed the first time. Acted like White men invented and were the only slavers in the world. My mistake. Went further back, nearly unwove all of history into oblivion. Tried again". But then, that's how one commentator (name withheld) saw it as troubling. To build Jax's perfect future would be a lot, and I mean a LOT of little manipulations that essentailly remove legitimate free will. If you make the wrong choice, he goes back and changes factors until you make his choice. It's a perfect world, but we're essentially slaves to Jax.</quote>Oh oh, looks we like got some white fragility happening here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 01/14/21 10:50:42 PM #56:	BeyondWalls posted... My question is... how exactly did he do this? And how did he get his family back after completely wiping the timeline? Seems like those ideas aren't compatible. It says in the ending it took multiple times and some work so he'd be able to make a reality where he would still have his family. Dathrowed1 posted... Because that is something a black millennial would say, Jax is a black Baby Boomer He's most likely Gen X in this timeline. --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:949515238] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>My question is... how exactly did he do this? And how did he get his family back after completely wiping the timeline? Seems like those ideas aren't compatible.</quote>It says in the ending it took multiple times and some work so he'd be able to make a reality where he would still have his family. Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>Because that is something a black millennial would say, Jax is a black Baby Boomer</quote>He's most likely Gen X in this timeline. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 01/14/21 10:51:42 PM #57:	ChainedRedone posted... It was actually white abolitionists and white Union soldiers that ended slavery. I wonder why only they were in the position to do so --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:949515261] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>ChainedRedone posted... </cite> <quote>It was actually white abolitionists and white Union soldiers that ended slavery.</quote> I wonder why only they were in the position to do so </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/14/21 11:10:49 PM #58:	It was hilarious how all of a sudden people were jumping through hoops trying to make a fighting game ending into a big deal when the majority of them are silly and often just outright joke endings. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:949515823] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>It was hilarious how all of a sudden people were jumping through hoops trying to make a fighting game ending into a big deal when the majority of them are silly and often just outright joke endings. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 01/14/21 11:14:56 PM #59:	Dathrowed1 posted... That is exactly what it feels like. Talk about forced Jax was literally a fucking slave within the game for a years . --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:949515945] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>That is exactly what it feels like. Talk about forced</quote> Jax was literally a fucking slave within the game for a years . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lightwarrior78 01/14/21 11:15:57 PM #60:	jason19192 posted... Oh oh, looks we like got some white fragility happening here. No, just someone that knows someone that uses white fragility as a term would probably try that could come back to find everything from chattel slavery to forced conscription to human sacrifice still existed as it had been a long standing part of culture since ancient times. I'm more used to time travel monkey pawing up wishes like this. --- I'm not saying that less toxic gaming journalists would lead to less toxic gamers. I'm just saying there's no proof to the contrary. <cite>lightwarrior78 posted [p:949515980] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Oh oh, looks we like got some white fragility happening here.</quote>No, just someone that knows someone that uses white fragility as a term would probably try that could come back to find everything from chattel slavery to forced conscription to human sacrifice still existed as it had been a long standing part of culture since ancient times. I'm more used to time travel monkey pawing up wishes like this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/14/21 11:21:27 PM #61:	lightwarrior78 posted... No, just someone that knows someone that uses white fragility as a term would probably try that could come back to find everything from chattel slavery to forced conscription to human sacrifice still existed as it had been a long standing part of culture since ancient times. I'm more used to time travel monkey pawing up wishes like this. Europeans enslaved black people, I hope you can accept this. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949516139] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>lightwarrior78 posted... </cite> <quote>No, just someone that knows someone that uses white fragility as a term would probably try that could come back to find everything from chattel slavery to forced conscription to human sacrifice still existed as it had been a long standing part of culture since ancient times. I'm more used to time travel monkey pawing up wishes like this.</quote>Europeans enslaved black people, I hope you can accept this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 01/14/21 11:29:32 PM #62:	jason19192 posted... Europeans enslaved black people, I hope you can accept this. Even now they are complaining about it. If someone said they went back and stopped 9/11. Do you think these people would be like. You know terrorism existed before 9/11 --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:949516394] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Europeans enslaved black people, I hope you can accept this.</quote> Even now they are complaining about it. If someone said they went back and stopped 9/11. Do you think these people would be like. You know terrorism existed before 9/11 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InhumaneRaider 01/14/21 11:42:54 PM #64:	I mean, even as a "woke, leftist SJW", this shit was stupid. --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! "Squirtle's my slave name, call me Hakeem." <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:949516770] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>I mean, even as a "woke, leftist SJW", this shit was stupid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/15/21 12:04:59 AM #65:	InhumaneRaider posted... I mean, even as a "woke, leftist SJW", this shit was stupid. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949517293] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>InhumaneRaider posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, even as a "woke, leftist SJW", this shit was stupid.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 01/15/21 12:07:41 AM #66:	Member when God Emperor Jak Madmaxed Glitch City on the ps2? --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:949517344] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Member when God Emperor Jak Madmaxed Glitch City on the ps2? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 01/15/21 12:08:13 AM #67:	Ignoring that time travel endings mean wiping out the current humanity, the woke line was definitely the dumbest thing about it. I guess you can criticize the fact that the desire to change things was never once a shown character trait of which I'm aware, but it doesn't really mean they can't add it to him. <cite>nemu posted [p:949517355] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Ignoring that time travel endings mean wiping out the current humanity, the woke line was definitely the dumbest thing about it. I guess you can criticize the fact that the desire to change things was never once a shown character trait of which I'm aware, but it doesn't really mean they can't add it to him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 01/15/21 12:15:20 AM #68:	nemu posted... Ignoring that time travel endings mean wiping out the current humanity, the woke line was definitely the dumbest thing about it. I guess you can criticize the fact that the desire to change things was never once a shown character trait of which I'm aware, but it doesn't really mean they can't add it to him. Black people have been saying woke, since before right wingers ever heard the term. --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:949517522] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>nemu posted... </cite> <quote>Ignoring that time travel endings mean wiping out the current humanity, the woke line was definitely the dumbest thing about it. I guess you can criticize the fact that the desire to change things was never once a shown character trait of which I'm aware, but it doesn't really mean they can't add it to him.</quote> Black people have been saying woke, since before right wingers ever heard the term. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balnazarr 01/15/21 12:32:29 AM #69:	Woke is pretty cringe. I hate that term. Kinda feels like something white kids use to pretend they care about us. But, that's not why people were upset. People were low key trying to justify Slavery as a net positive. The real racists are BLM SJWs who want to erase slavery! /s Yeah, that whole outrage over it was just fucking pathetic. <cite>Balnazarr posted [p:949517898] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Woke is pretty cringe. I hate that term. Kinda feels like something white kids use to pretend they care about us. But, that's not why people were upset. People were low key trying to justify Slavery as a net positive. The real racists are BLM SJWs who want to erase slavery! /s Yeah, that whole outrage over it was just fucking pathetic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/15/21 12:34:41 AM #70:	The only issue I have with that ending is it would change the timeline so much that untold billions of lives would be never born. When you change history that radically, you change a lot of factors besides just "slavery never happened" Jax himself probably wouldn't be born. He created a time paradox <cite>Zikten posted [p:949517935] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>The only issue I have with that ending is it would change the timeline so much that untold billions of lives would be never born. When you change history that radically, you change a lot of factors besides just "slavery never happened" Jax himself probably wouldn't be born. He created a time paradox</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CloudThunder 01/15/21 1:06:58 AM #71:	why was it controversial to begin with?americans are a silly bunch. <cite>CloudThunder posted [p:949518624] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>why was it controversial to begin with?americans are a silly bunch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InhumaneRaider 01/15/21 1:09:42 AM #72:	jason19192 posted... LMFAO, doubt all you want. It was stupid to begin with and never really fit Jax's character. It fit more in line with Nightwolf. --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! "Squirtle's my slave name, call me Hakeem." <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:949518681] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote></quote>LMFAO, doubt all you want. It was stupid to begin with and never really fit Jax's character. It fit more in line with Nightwolf. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/15/21 1:13:43 AM #73:	Zikten posted... The only issue I have with that ending is it would change the timeline so much that untold billions of lives would be never born. When you change history that radically, you change a lot of factors besides just "slavery never happened" Jax himself probably wouldn't be born. He created a time paradox It's a fighting game, not a Christopher Nolan movie. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949518765] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>The only issue I have with that ending is it would change the timeline so much that untold billions of lives would be never born. When you change history that radically, you change a lot of factors besides just "slavery never happened" Jax himself probably wouldn't be born. He created a time paradox</quote>It's a fighting game, not a Christopher Nolan movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/15/21 1:17:45 AM #74:	InhumaneRaider posted... LMFAO, doubt all you want. It was stupid to begin with and never really fit Jax's character. It fit more in line with Nightwolf. So because Jax didn't talk about racism, he doesn't care about black people? <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949518835] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>InhumaneRaider posted... </cite> <quote>LMFAO, doubt all you want. It was stupid to begin with and never really fit Jax's character. It fit more in line with Nightwolf.</quote>So because Jax didn't talk about racism, he doesn't care about black people? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 01/15/21 1:19:31 AM #75:	jason19192 posted... So because Jax didn't talk about racism, he doesn't care about black people? If he talked about it all the time , they would complain about that too. --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:949518880] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>So because Jax didn't talk about racism, he doesn't care about black people?</quote> If he talked about it all the time , they would complain about that too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/15/21 1:21:38 AM #76:	cjsdowg posted... If he talked about it all the time , they would complain about that too. Yeah I thought of that too. You can never win with these fucking people. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949518918] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>If he talked about it all the time , they would complain about that too.</quote>Yeah I thought of that too. You can never win with these fucking people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InhumaneRaider 01/15/21 1:41:28 AM #77:	jason19192 posted... So because Jax didn't talk about racism, he doesn't care about black people? Or maybe they could have given him an ounce of characterization that even hinted towards this? His entire character over the reboot trilogy is literally not being able to get over being a revenant and wanting his daughter safe. His ending accomplishes that, and decides for "brownie" points that they'll have him go reverse slavery, for no fucking reason. I love the narrative that if you dislike the ending, you're racist or alt-right. No, it's just stupid. Even with the intent behind it, the "I don't have to wait centuries for people to get woke" line, is laughably bad and his end just feels shoehorned in for brownie points. People who complain about it being "anti-white" are just as stupid as people thinking this is good writing. --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! "Squirtle's my slave name, call me Hakeem." <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:949519293] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>So because Jax didn't talk about racism, he doesn't care about black people?</quote> Or maybe they could have given him an ounce of characterization that even hinted towards this? His entire character over the reboot trilogy is literally not being able to get over being a revenant and wanting his daughter safe. His ending accomplishes that, and decides for "brownie" points that they'll have him go reverse slavery, for no fucking reason. I love the narrative that if you dislike the ending, you're racist or alt-right. No, it's just stupid. Even with the intent behind it, the "I don't have to wait centuries for people to get woke" line, is laughably bad and his end just feels shoehorned in for brownie points. People who complain about it being "anti-white" are just as stupid as people thinking this is good writing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/15/21 1:56:34 AM #78:	InhumaneRaider posted... Or maybe they could have given him an ounce of characterization that even hinted towards this? His entire character over the reboot trilogy is literally not being able to get over being a revenant and wanting his daughter safe. His ending accomplishes that, and decides for "brownie" points that they'll have him go reverse slavery, for no fucking reason. I love the narrative that if you dislike the ending, you're racist or alt-right. No, it's just stupid. Even with the intent behind it, the "I don't have to wait centuries for people to get woke" line, is laughably bad and his end just feels shoehorned in for brownie points. People who complain about it being "anti-white" are just as stupid as people thinking this is good writing. Complaining about good writing in an arcade mode ending for a fighting game, lmao. Also according to your stupid logic, this was shoehorned in for "brownie points". Jesus christ, who the fuck cares unless you're a racist. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949519516] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>InhumaneRaider posted... </cite> <quote>Or maybe they could have given him an ounce of characterization that even hinted towards this? His entire character over the reboot trilogy is literally not being able to get over being a revenant and wanting his daughter safe. His ending accomplishes that, and decides for "brownie" points that they'll have him go reverse slavery, for no fucking reason. I love the narrative that if you dislike the ending, you're racist or alt-right. No, it's just stupid. Even with the intent behind it, the "I don't have to wait centuries for people to get woke" line, is laughably bad and his end just feels shoehorned in for brownie points. People who complain about it being "anti-white" are just as stupid as people thinking this is good writing.</quote>Complaining about good writing in an arcade mode ending for a fighting game, lmao. Also according to your stupid logic, this was shoehorned in for "brownie points". Jesus christ, who the fuck cares unless you're a racist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InhumaneRaider 01/15/21 2:14:07 AM #79:	jason19192 posted... Complaining about good writing in an arcade mode ending for a fighting game, lmao. Good writing includes consistent characterization. Arcade Mode endings are no exception, don't know why you're acting like it is. jason19192 posted... Also according to your stupid logic, this was shoehorned in for "brownie points". Jesus christ, who the fuck cares. Except it literally makes more sense for Nightwolf, which an aspect of this has been characterized for his character. And obviously you do. --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! "Squirtle's my slave name, call me Hakeem." <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:949519747] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Complaining about good writing in an arcade mode ending for a fighting game, lmao.</quote>Good writing includes consistent characterization. Arcade Mode endings are no exception, don't know why you're acting like it is. jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Also according to your stupid logic, this was shoehorned in for "brownie points". Jesus christ, who the fuck cares.</quote>Except it literally makes more sense for Nightwolf, which an aspect of this has been characterized for his character. And obviously you do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BB mofo 01/15/21 2:27:29 AM #80:	People in this topic: "Jax stopping slavery is wrong. Black people would have never learned the white man's lesson of hard work." --- "But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" -Mark Twain <cite>BB mofo posted [p:949519900] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>People in this topic: "Jax stopping slavery is wrong. Black people would have never learned the white man's lesson of hard work." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/15/21 2:28:44 AM #81:	InhumaneRaider posted... Good writing includes consistent characterization. Arcade Mode endings are no exception, don't know why you're acting like it is. Except it literally makes more sense for Nightwolf, which an aspect of this has been characterized for his character. And obviously you do. Consistent characterization? Did he say that he doesn't care about black people before? And again you're complaining about good writing in an arcade mode ending in a fighting game. Have you ever played fighting games before? They're not known for having great stories. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949519917] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>InhumaneRaider posted... </cite> <quote>Good writing includes consistent characterization. Arcade Mode endings are no exception, don't know why you're acting like it is. Except it literally makes more sense for Nightwolf, which an aspect of this has been characterized for his character. And obviously you do.</quote>Consistent characterization? Did he say that he doesn't care about black people before? And again you're complaining about good writing in an arcade mode ending in a fighting game. Have you ever played fighting games before? They're not known for having great stories. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 01/15/21 2:31:33 AM #82:	Monolith1676 posted... Phil Lamarr as much of an amazing actor/voice actor he is, is not a good choice for Jax. Three today. Or maybe...four? --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:949519956] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Monolith1676 posted... </cite> <quote>Phil Lamarr as much of an amazing actor/voice actor he is, is not a good choice for Jax.</quote> Three today. Or maybe...four? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ranlom 01/15/21 2:39:54 AM #83:	Darmik posted... It was hilarious how all of a sudden people were jumping through hoops trying to make a fighting game ending into a big deal when the majority of them are silly and often just outright joke endings. This, so hard. Doesn't Shang Tsung destroy earth or something in his MK2 ending? --- Forward, Relentlessly "What the heck is Ranlom?" - lunchboxssj <cite>Ranlom posted [p:949520072] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>It was hilarious how all of a sudden people were jumping through hoops trying to make a fighting game ending into a big deal when the majority of them are silly and often just outright joke endings.</quote>This, so hard. Doesn't Shang Tsung destroy earth or something in his MK2 ending? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
im not 13 01/15/21 2:41:03 AM #84:	jason19192 posted... Have you ever played fighting games before? They're not known for having great stories. In his defence, MK is supposed to have a good story mode --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m510t9eNw71r2yd8o.jpg <cite>im not 13 posted [p:949520092] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Have you ever played fighting games before? They're not known for having great stories.</quote> In his defence, MK is supposed to have a good story mode </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InhumaneRaider 01/15/21 2:43:37 AM #85:	jason19192 posted... Consistent characterization? Did he say that he doesn't care about black people before? And again you're complaining about good writing in an arcade mode ending in a fighting game. Have you ever played fighting games before? They're not known for having great stories. It's not about, "caring about Black people" his entire character over the course of the trilogy was having PTSD from being Quan Chi's revenant and protecting Jacqui. All of which his ending accomplishes, and then it shoehorns him reversing Black slavery and then has one of the worst lines, "I'm not waiting centuries for people to get woke". Jax has never been characterized in this way, and his ending is nothing but pandering. Like I said, it makes more sense for Nightwolf, because it's something that was actually mentioned before. Jax's ending comes out of nowhere. Disliking the ending doesn't mean you're racist or pro-slavery and it's full of logical loopholes, which proves that they had no forethought about it and just tacked it on. You also realize that people love MK because of the storyline as well? NR is one of the few fighting game studios that focuses on their narrative. --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! "Squirtle's my slave name, call me Hakeem." <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:949520128] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Consistent characterization? Did he say that he doesn't care about black people before? And again you're complaining about good writing in an arcade mode ending in a fighting game. Have you ever played fighting games before? They're not known for having great stories.</quote>It's not about, "caring about Black people" his entire character over the course of the trilogy was having PTSD from being Quan Chi's revenant and protecting Jacqui. All of which his ending accomplishes, and then it shoehorns him reversing Black slavery and then has one of the worst lines, "I'm not waiting centuries for people to get woke". Jax has never been characterized in this way, and his ending is nothing but pandering. Like I said, it makes more sense for Nightwolf, because it's something that was actually mentioned before. Jax's ending comes out of nowhere. Disliking the ending doesn't mean you're racist or pro-slavery and it's full of logical loopholes, which proves that they had no forethought about it and just tacked it on. You also realize that people love MK because of the storyline as well? NR is one of the few fighting game studios that focuses on their narrative. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/15/21 3:15:42 AM #86:	InhumaneRaider posted... It's not about, "caring about Black people" his entire character over the course of the trilogy was having PTSD from being Quan Chi's revenant and protecting Jacqui. All of which his ending accomplishes, and then it shoehorns him reversing Black slavery and then has one of the worst lines, "I'm not waiting centuries for people to get woke". Jax has never been characterized in this way, and his ending is nothing but pandering. Like I said, it makes more sense for Nightwolf, because it's something that was actually mentioned before. Jax's ending comes out of nowhere. Disliking the ending doesn't mean you're racist or pro-slavery and it's full of logical loopholes, which proves that they had no forethought about it and just tacked it on. You also realize that people love MK because of the storyline as well? NR is one of the few fighting game studios that focuses on their narrative. Arcade mode endings 95% of the time are not canon and they're not supposed to have amazing writing. Jax never said anything about not caring about black people so the ending is fine for what it is, get over it. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949520547] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>InhumaneRaider posted... </cite> <quote>It's not about, "caring about Black people" his entire character over the course of the trilogy was having PTSD from being Quan Chi's revenant and protecting Jacqui. All of which his ending accomplishes, and then it shoehorns him reversing Black slavery and then has one of the worst lines, "I'm not waiting centuries for people to get woke". Jax has never been characterized in this way, and his ending is nothing but pandering. Like I said, it makes more sense for Nightwolf, because it's something that was actually mentioned before. Jax's ending comes out of nowhere. Disliking the ending doesn't mean you're racist or pro-slavery and it's full of logical loopholes, which proves that they had no forethought about it and just tacked it on. You also realize that people love MK because of the storyline as well? NR is one of the few fighting game studios that focuses on their narrative.</quote>Arcade mode endings 95% of the time are not canon and they're not supposed to have amazing writing. Jax never said anything about not caring about black people so the ending is fine for what it is, get over it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 01/15/21 3:20:44 AM #87:	This triggers the chud --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:949520615] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>This triggers the chud </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 01/15/21 3:29:32 AM #88:	AmericaTheBrave posted... I think the main issue is Jax's character never gave any lip service to this until now so it came out of nowhere and looked like woke pandering. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:949520700] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>AmericaTheBrave posted... </cite> I think the main issue is Jax's character never gave any lip service to this until now so it came out of nowhere and looked like woke pandering. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InhumaneRaider 01/15/21 3:30:55 AM #89:	jason19192 posted... Arcade mode endings 95% of the time are not canon and they're not supposed to have amazing writing. Jax never said anything about not caring about black people so the ending is fine for what it is, get over it. Except, they're still supposed to have consistent characterization, and this ending doesn't. And saying they're "not supposed to have amazing writing", is just stupid and not true and it doesn't make the ending less stupid. Besides, you created the topic and brought the point of conversation up, so you obviously care. --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! "Squirtle's my slave name, call me Hakeem." <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:949520718] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Arcade mode endings 95% of the time are not canon and they're not supposed to have amazing writing. Jax never said anything about not caring about black people so the ending is fine for what it is, get over it.</quote>Except, they're still supposed to have consistent characterization, and this ending doesn't. And saying they're "not supposed to have amazing writing", is just stupid and not true and it doesn't make the ending less stupid. Besides, you created the topic and brought the point of conversation up, so you obviously care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 01/15/21 3:42:18 AM #90:	refmon posted... I think the main issue is Jax's character never gave any lip service to this until now so it came out of nowhere and looked like woke pandering. Yeah, why would a black guy think about slavery and its effects, sounds like pandering --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:949520830] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite> <quote>I think the main issue is Jax's character never gave any lip service to this until now so it came out of nowhere and looked like woke pandering.</quote>Yeah, why would a black guy think about slavery and its effects, sounds like pandering </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 01/15/21 3:43:06 AM #91:	Why would you reopen this in a place like CE? You gotta know what you're doing.... --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:949520843] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Why would you reopen this in a place like CE? You gotta know what you're doing.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DD Divine 01/15/21 4:01:12 AM #92:	He didnt end slavery he made sure it never happened and went through time and time again to make sure nothing got fucked up. I loved the ending --- while driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and I instinctively swerved to miss it, thanks a lot Mario Kart. <cite>DD Divine posted [p:949521062] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>He didnt end slavery he made sure it never happened and went through time and time again to make sure nothing got fucked up. I loved the ending </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 01/15/21 4:07:27 AM #93:	Gosh I sure wish Mortal Kombat would just go back to being about ripping spines and fighting Goro. None of this woke shit. Bring back classic MK! ...oh wait --- https://imgur.com/mptS9Qj <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:949521125] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Gosh I sure wish Mortal Kombat would just go back to being about ripping spines and fighting Goro. None of this woke shit. Bring back classic MK! ...oh wait </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 01/15/21 4:11:28 AM #94:	AlisLandale posted... Gosh I sure wish Mortal Kombat would just go back to being about ripping spines and fighting Goro. None of this woke shit. Bring back classic MK! ...oh wait Too bad no one will come back to tell us what their hate for Jax ending is really about :/. Then again, most of them are truly less aware than the onlookers. Gotta suck to be a liar but the only one you have fooled is yourself. --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:949521173] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote>Gosh I sure wish Mortal Kombat would just go back to being about ripping spines and fighting Goro. None of this woke shit. Bring back classic MK! ...oh wait </quote> Too bad no one will come back to tell us what their hate for Jax ending is really about :/. Then again, most of them are truly less aware than the onlookers. Gotta suck to be a liar but the only one you have fooled is yourself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 01/15/21 4:14:30 AM #95:	It's not just that it was simply a boring virtue symbol but also Well I'll let the Bruce wayne handle this. https://youtu.be/nDyVeIuTQLY --- MICHALECOLE is the greatest poster of all time I have literally watched him bang my mom before <cite>yutterh posted [p:949521202] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>It's not just that it was simply a boring virtue symbol but also Well I'll let the Bruce wayne handle this. https://youtu.be/nDyVeIuTQLY </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 01/15/21 4:15:39 AM #96:	yutterh posted... It's not just that it was simply a boring virtue symbol but also Well I'll let the Bruce wayne handle this. https://youtu.be/nDyVeIuTQLY The rest are airtight tho, eh? Explained in detail, like the series is known for... --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:949521222] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>yutterh posted... </cite> <quote>It's not just that it was simply a boring virtue symbol but also Well I'll let the Bruce wayne handle this. https://youtu.be/nDyVeIuTQLY</quote> The rest are airtight tho, eh? Explained in detail, like the series is known for... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 01/15/21 4:28:12 AM #97:	Dis ending contributed to lonely nerds becoming hardcore Trumpers!1 First Samantha started dating that BLACK guy in our school, then I couldnt escape that feeling of humiliation when I saw that horrible ending! --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:949521362] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Dis ending contributed to lonely nerds becoming hardcore Trumpers!1 First Samantha started dating that BLACK guy in our school, then I couldnt escape that feeling of humiliation when I saw that horrible ending! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/15/21 4:38:35 AM #98:	Lost_All_Senses posted... The rest are airtight tho, eh? Explained in detail, like the series is known for... Yeah why aren't the one minute arcade endings that are not canon not going into excruciating detail to make sure it's scientifically accurate when it comes to time travel. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:949521491] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>The rest are airtight tho, eh? Explained in detail, like the series is known for...</quote>Yeah why aren't the one minute arcade endings that are not canon not going into excruciating detail to make sure it's scientifically accurate when it comes to time travel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 01/15/21 5:32:04 AM #99:	Lost_All_Senses posted... The rest are airtight tho, eh? Explained in detail, like the series is known for... Most endings dont cause a large population of people disentrigsting or not existing in their endings. So many people I know would just simply not exist. Compared to others just being a in universe thing. I thought it was a cool thing to hint at kung jin being gay and having a gay character on the roster, still kind of pissed he wasn't added in, but then just have blatant virtue signaling for the sake of virtue signaling is kind of dumb. --- MICHALECOLE is the greatest poster of all time I have literally watched him bang my mom before <cite>yutterh posted [p:949522050] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>The rest are airtight tho, eh? Explained in detail, like the series is known for...</quote> Most endings dont cause a large population of people disentrigsting or not existing in their endings. So many people I know would just simply not exist. Compared to others just being a in universe thing. I thought it was a cool thing to hint at kung jin being gay and having a gay character on the roster, still kind of pissed he wasn't added in, but then just have blatant virtue signaling for the sake of virtue signaling is kind of dumb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/15/21 5:33:28 AM #100:	yutterh posted... Most endings dont cause a large population of people disentrigsting or not existing in their endings. So 1. They do in MK Armageddon 2. They don't say they do this. Jax claims everyone is happy --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:949522069] in Remember w... [t:79239511]...</cite> <quote>yutterh posted... </cite> <quote>Most endings dont cause a large population of people disentrigsting or not existing in their endings. So</quote>1. They do in MK Armageddon 2. They don't say they do this. Jax claims everyone is happy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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