Current Events > I really don't get why Drug users and dealers are so heavily punished

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MaddenDude--
01/18/21 5:55:44 PM
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I get public intoxication but buying and selling drugs should be legal and if not then minimal punishment. Maybe like a fee or something.

I just don't get the difference between a HS kid selling weed or shrooms versus big tobacco selling cigs or even the alcohol industry.

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nothanks1
01/18/21 5:56:12 PM
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You still claiming to be a doctor?
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TheGoldenEel
01/18/21 5:56:29 PM
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Literally to punish the poor

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Coloradough
01/18/21 5:59:31 PM
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Cause Reagan hated poor people

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EmbraceOfDeath
01/18/21 6:02:35 PM
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tote_all posted...
This is just a bait argument.

Or would you agree to make alcohol and tobacco illegal, TC?
No, he was pretty clear that the other stuff should be legal.

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Solid Snake07
01/18/21 6:09:46 PM
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No one would really give a shit about low level drug dealers if they didn't regularly shoot each other and the occasional innocent bystander

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ultimate reaver
01/18/21 6:16:10 PM
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ronald reagan's domestic policies were basically meant to "purify" the country of everyone from drug users to the mentally ill to homosexuals


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DarthAragorn
01/18/21 6:27:20 PM
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Dealers absolutely should be punished

Users not so much
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Crescente
01/18/21 6:37:21 PM
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Hmm, I don't know if making meth and cocaine legal is a good thing.
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Balrog0
01/18/21 6:39:25 PM
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All drug possession should definitely be decriminalized at the very least. "Trafficking" or selling drugs is a bit more complicated, but the punishment should be greatly reduced. Ideally drug related violence would be minimized by a legalized market for drugs.

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Kafkaf
01/18/21 6:49:23 PM
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Racism and Classism
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CraziestCal
01/18/21 6:56:41 PM
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Do the dealers report income to the IRS?

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WilliamPorygon
01/18/21 7:18:57 PM
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MaddenDude--
01/18/21 9:45:08 PM
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If u could buy drugs legally, there'd be less drug related crime

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DrizztLink
01/18/21 9:46:09 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
No one would really give a shit about low level drug dealers if they didn't regularly shoot each other and the occasional innocent bystander
Now this is a stupid fucking take.

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masticatingman
01/18/21 9:48:45 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
If u could buy drugs legally, there'd be less drug related crime
There are still huge weed black markets where it is fully legal.

Drugs sold legitimately with tax will never compete with the black market economics. And people who make this argument are being either on purposely deceitful or live in a fantasy land of lawfulness.

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pikachupwnage
01/18/21 9:49:20 PM
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tote_all posted...
This is just a bait argument.

Or would you agree to make alcohol and tobacco illegal, TC?

Tobacco absolutely.

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Solid Snake07
01/18/21 9:52:12 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Now this is a stupid fucking take.


Followed by a far dumber response that adds nothing

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Chicken
01/18/21 9:54:04 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
If u could buy drugs legally, there'd be less drug related crime
If you could kill people legally, thered be less murder related crime.

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Smackems
01/18/21 9:54:09 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
If u could buy drugs legally, there'd be less drug related crime
Well duh it would be legal then

Also i find it hard to disagree

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Solid Snake07
01/18/21 9:55:48 PM
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Think he's pretty obviously saying there would be less drug related violent crime guys

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yemmy
01/18/21 9:55:52 PM
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Crono99 posted...
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Yeah drug dealers never went to jail before reagan right?


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creativerealms
01/18/21 9:56:36 PM
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Because at least once most users and dealers were minorities.

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Smackems
01/18/21 9:56:41 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Think he's pretty obviously saying there would be less drug related violent crime guys
Shh

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Balrog0
01/18/21 9:57:29 PM
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masticatingman posted...
There are still huge weed black markets where it is fully legal.

Drugs sold legitimately with tax will never compete with the black market economics. And people who make this argument are being either on purposely deceitful or live in a fantasy land of lawfulness.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/14/legal-marijuana-medical-use-crime-rate-plummets-us-study

It obviously doesn't get rid of it entirely or overnight, but the evidence seems to suggest it does work

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creativerealms
01/18/21 9:58:53 PM
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Chicken posted...
If you could kill people legally, thered be less murder related crime.
The severity of the crime and who it hurts. A crime that only hurts the person doing the crime should carry less punishment then a crime that harms or kills another.

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DrizztLink
01/18/21 9:59:57 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Followed by a far dumber response that adds nothing
If I thought you were worth a real response I'd type one.

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hockeybub89
01/18/21 10:00:16 PM
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Drug dealers like Big Tobacco should be punished.

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Balrog0
01/18/21 10:01:55 PM
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yemmy posted...
Yeah drug dealers never went to jail before reagan right?

I always thought it was more a nixon thing

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Solid Snake07
01/18/21 10:05:52 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
If I thought you were worth a real response I'd type one.


Don't try to blame your lack of ability to conceptualize a thought or opinion more insightful than "datz dum" on me

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The_Creep_2020
01/18/21 10:15:27 PM
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Personally and a potentially contentious opinion, but Id reduce penalties for users and make consequenses of possession more along the lines of rehabilitation. At the same time, Id increase penalties for driving under the influence or getting someone killed while youre on drugs, and for dealing/manufacture/distribution.

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lightwarrior78
01/18/21 10:20:53 PM
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Well, I've yet to hear about anyone go on one of those PSA spirals because they couldn't control their cig habit. Alcohol has many of the impacts of drugs, but we've also fairly cemented alcohol abuse as a bad thing to be avoided. We're still getting there on drug usage, as such people still see their use as a waste of a life until you're begging on the streets and creating crime and other social costs.

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