Current Events > Pompeo says what China is doing to Muslims is genocide.

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Cheater87
01/19/21 1:02:24 PM
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PoundGarden
01/19/21 1:05:39 PM
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True or not, I'm in favor of not pissing off China. It's not our job or responsibility to change their ways

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butthole666
01/19/21 1:06:13 PM
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It is.

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Zikten
01/19/21 1:06:32 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
True or not, I'm in favor of not pissing off China. It's not our job or responsibility to change their ways

It's the world's moral obligation to prevent a race being wiped out
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SaltyWet
01/19/21 1:06:38 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
True or not, I'm in favor of not pissing off China. It's not our job or responsibility to change their ways
You're gonna change your mind when they become so powerful they change your way of life.

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VipaGTS
01/19/21 1:06:53 PM
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It is in a way. Whether they kill them or not, forcing them to change by government sanctioned beatings is terrible.

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01/19/21 1:07:02 PM
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PaunchyTurtle53
01/19/21 1:07:16 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
True or not, I'm in favor of not pissing off China. It's not our job or responsibility to change their ways
Holy shit. What a shitty take. "Let's let China do whatever they want."

I gotta know, who'd you vote for?

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Broseph_Stalin
01/19/21 1:07:32 PM
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tankies mad
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pogo_rabid
01/19/21 1:08:49 PM
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I never understood why jihad is being declared on Israel all the time, but not on China for this thing.

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PoundGarden
01/19/21 1:09:30 PM
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Zikten posted...
It's the world's moral obligation to prevent a race being wiped out

Then let someone else lead that fight for a change. We need to get our own house in order, half of us want to kill each other right now and we're teetering gonna the age of civil war. Meddling in foreign affairs has never yielded any gains for us, and let's not pretend the US is some bastion of civil rights and morality.

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Funkydog
01/19/21 1:09:32 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
True or not, I'm in favor of not pissing off China. It's not our job or responsibility to change their ways
Fuck off with this indifference to genocide.

You can understand that changing them is hard but to just plain not care is disgusting.

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LightHawKnight
01/19/21 1:10:13 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
I never understood why jihad is being declared on Israel all the time, but not on China for this thing.

Cause China's slave labor is too important.

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ScazarMeltex
01/19/21 1:10:39 PM
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It likely is. The question is, are you willing to go to war to stop it? It is the only thing that will. No amount of sanctions or embargos have ever changed any aspect of China's domestic policy.

Please note, any war with China likely go nuclear.

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Were_Wyrm
01/19/21 1:11:05 PM
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Nice of him to finally say something the day before it becomes someone else's problem...

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LightHawKnight
01/19/21 1:12:30 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
It likely is. The question is, are you willing to go to war to stop it? It is the only thing that will. No amount of sanctions or embargos have ever changed any aspect of China's domestic policy.

Please note, any war with China likely go nuclear.

The world could also just wean itself off of China's slave labor and their power would vastly decrease.

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PaunchyTurtle53
01/19/21 1:12:31 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Please note, any war with China likely go nuclear.
MAD.

Won't happen. Unless they really decide they want to destroy the planet.

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PoundGarden
01/19/21 1:13:15 PM
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PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
Holy shit. What a shitty take. "Let's let China do whatever they want."

I gotta know, who'd you vote for?

If you have to twist words and use hyperbole, you never had a leg to stand on. Are you willing to enlist and fight if our constant provocation of China causes a war? If not, stfu. If so, stfu, very few people put their money where their mouth is. We are in no position to be dictating policy or morality to other countries.

I voted for Jo Jorgensen because the two party system needs to go, and getting a 3rd party the votes needed for funding is the first step.
Nice try though :)

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LightHawKnight
01/19/21 1:13:17 PM
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PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
MAD.

Won't happen. Unless they really decide they want to destroy the planet.

I mean if pooh is going to lose, what else does he care about?

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g0ldie
01/19/21 1:13:28 PM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
How brave of him to say so with one foot already out the door.

Were_Wyrm posted...
Nice of him to finally say something the day before it becomes someone else's problem...
what I came in to say.

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Broseph_Stalin
01/19/21 1:14:20 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
I voted for Jo Jorgensen

of course you did
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ScazarMeltex
01/19/21 1:14:26 PM
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PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
MAD.

Won't happen. Unless they really decide they want to destroy the planet.
You willing to risk the lives of every person on the planet?

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twitterfriends
01/19/21 1:15:14 PM
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This is him being anti China instead of pro Muslim, on the flip side we bomb the shit out of Muslim counties all the time and Pompeii doesnt speak out against that

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PoundGarden
01/19/21 1:15:52 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Fuck off with this indifference to genocide.

You can understand that changing them is hard but to just plain not care is disgusting.

Fuck off with your naivety. Do you honestly believe anything short of militry action will change their policy on this? Trying to change then through diplomacy is a fools errand. See: every attempt, ever.

Being realistic and logical instead of emotional and cavalier =/= "not caring"

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ModLogic
01/19/21 1:17:02 PM
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LightHawKnight
01/19/21 1:17:54 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
Fuck off with your naivety. Do you honestly believe anything short of militry action will change their policy on this? Trying to change then through diplomacy is a fools errand. See: every attempt, ever.

Being realistic and logical instead of emotional and cavalier =/= "not caring"

If the world didnt need China for its slave labor, China would be screwed. So they would then have to listen.

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PoundGarden
01/19/21 1:18:39 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
of course you did
It's really cute how you left out the reason I voted that way, as if nobody else can see that and your snarky comment actually means anything.

Does it?

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PaunchyTurtle53
01/19/21 1:20:07 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
I mean if pooh is going to lose, what else does he care about?
Yeah, fair I suppose.

PoundGarden posted...
If you have to twist words and use hyperbole, you never had a leg to stand on. Are you willing to enlist and fight if our constant provocation of China causes a war? If not, stfu. If so, stfu, very few people put their money where their mouth is. We are in no position to be dictating policy or morality to other countries.

I voted for Jo Jorgensen because the two party system needs to go, and getting a 3rd party the votes needed for funding is the first step.
Nice try though :)
It's not hyperbole. They are literally aiming to destroy an entire race of people. And you see no need to stop it? What I said wasn't hyperbole, it just simplified it.

Am I willing to enlist? I've been asked this many times on this site and my answer is always the same. Absolutely. As a kid all I wanted to do was join the military. The only reason I didn't was because of my asthma, they wouldn't take me. But if the opportunity arose to enlist anyways, I wouldn't hesitate to take it.

Also, I'm pretty sure saying, "Don't wipe out a race of people you don't like" isn't dictating morality. Unless you somehow think that this could be justified?

"Voted 3rd Party"
Respectable. That's all.

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PoundGarden
01/19/21 1:20:53 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
If the world didnt need China for its slave labor, China would be screwed. So they would then have to listen.

You dont honestly the believe the world will all come together and boycott China to improve their human rights policies, at the expense of higher prices and massive interruptions in global supply lines do you?

Because that will never, ever, ever happen. Ever. Sorry.

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Funkydog
01/19/21 1:20:57 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
Fuck off with your naivety. Do you honestly believe anything short of militry action will change their policy on this? Trying to change then through diplomacy is a fools errand. See: every attempt, ever.

Being realistic and logical instead of emotional and cavalier =/= "not caring"
You came off extremely indifferent and "who gives a fuck" in your initial statement. I agree that nothing short of war will change them as they've shown that no economic sanction is going to deter them. I simply meant we should call them out and strive to try and change them through economic means, or by reducing our reliance on them while accepting that it isn't going to be easy or happening soon.

We can realise it's hard while saying it's bad.

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ModLogic
01/19/21 1:21:14 PM
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we bomb the shit out of Muslim counties all the time and Pompeii doesnt speak out against that
america always justifies their own crimes

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Broseph_Stalin
01/19/21 1:21:22 PM
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see what i'm saying is that i can tell by your stupid takes that you vote libertarian
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LightHawKnight
01/19/21 1:22:32 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
You dont honestly the believe the world will all come together and boycott China to improve their human rights policies, at the expense of higher prices and massive interruptions in global supply lines do you?

Because that will never, ever, ever happen. Ever. Sorry.

No, but the world could make another group of people into slaves and make their own slave labor and fuck China.

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PoundGarden
01/19/21 1:24:38 PM
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PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
Am I willing to enlist? I've been asked this many times on this site and my answer is always the same. Absolutely.

Cool. Again, very, very few people are willing to go in essentially a trade war with China.

PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
As a kid all I wanted to do was join the military. The only reason I didn't was because of my asthma, they wouldn't take me.

Well now isnt that convenient. Please dont write checks with your mouth for everyone else's ass.

Fact is, as I've said, nothing short of military action will change their ways. I am not willing to fight in WWIII because of China's deplorable human rights violations.

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PoundGarden
01/19/21 1:28:26 PM
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Funkydog posted...
You came off extremely indifferent and "who gives a fuck" in your initial statement. I agree that nothing short of war will change them as they've shown that no economic sanction is going to deter them. I simply meant we should call them out and strive to try and change them through economic means, or by reducing our reliance on them while accepting that it isn't going to be easy or happening soon.

We can realise it's hard while saying it's bad.

Please don't confuse my bluntness with indifference. Well to an extent its indifference in the sense that nothing can realistically be done (and it's not our fight) so what more is there to say? Of course I'm not thrilled or in favor of what they're doing. But like I've been saying, its not our fight and myself and most others aren't willing to fight in WWIII and have our economy and supply chain devastated over what boils down to how they run their country.

How's that worked out for us in Iraq?

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CruelBuffalo
01/19/21 1:30:09 PM
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It is. But Pompeo doesnt actually care.
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PoundGarden
01/19/21 1:31:00 PM
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"see what i'm saying is that i can tell by your stupid takes that you vote libertarian"

And I can tell by your snarky and boorish personality further engagement with you is pointless.

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Funkydog
01/19/21 1:32:08 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
Please don't confuse my bluntness with indifference. Well to an extent its indifference in the sense that nothing can realistically be done (and it's not our fight) so what more is there to say? Of course I'm not thrilled or in favor of what they're doing. But like I've been saying, its not our fight and myself and most others aren't willing to fight in WWIII and have our economy and supply chain devastated over what boils down to how they run their country.

How's that worked out for us in Iraq?
Isn't it our fight though? They are humans as well, and the numerous times we've ignored genocide (I don't think any country has EVER acted to stop it happening) the results have been horrific and left millions dead. I'm not really sure what can be done though and it makes for a fucking depressing situation where we are left unable to actually stop it happening. I would hope people would at least realise it's a fucking awful situation and not one we should allow, even if we might not actually be able to stop it.

I would hope companies would stop continue taking their money but the very notion is enough to make you laugh.

And calling genocide "how they run their country?"

Fuck you.

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Broseph_Stalin
01/19/21 1:34:18 PM
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Something tells me there's a strong overlap between people who think there's nothing we can do about China short of war and people who oppose free trade and military spending.
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PoundGarden
01/19/21 1:41:06 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Isn't it our fight though?

No.

Funkydog posted...
I'm not really sure what can be done though and it makes for a fucking depressing situation where we are left unable to actually stop it happening.

Military action, period. What part of that aren't you getting, and do you believe a war with China is a good idea, especially right now?

Funkydog posted...
I would hope people would at least realise it's a fucking awful situation and not one we should allow, even if we might not actually be able to stop it.

I have said numerous times it's awful. Bitching just to bitch solves absolutely nothing. If you're not ready for you and a fuck ton of your countrymen to die for China's Muslim enslavement, please shut the fuck up. Armchair outrage is just as productive as my realistic take on the situation.

Funkydog posted...
I would hope companies would stop continue taking their money but the very notion is enough to make you laugh.

how's that been working out? What's the saying, "shit in one hand and hope in the other, see which one fills up first". See my above point

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And calling genocide "how they run their country?"

No, I called it "what boils down to how they run their country". Am I wrong? Whether it's genocide or trade tariffs, we would be dictating policy to a foreign nation which statistically never goes well. People refusing to do business with the US didn't change our minds on slavery, war did. With ourselves, but still, the point stands.

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Shablagoo
01/19/21 1:54:37 PM
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ModLogic posted...
this clown?

https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1351537398564286466

I just want to thank Mike Pompeo and his friends in the military-industrial-congressional-complex for educating me about global politics.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/11/11/military-industrial-congressional-complex-fascism

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01/19/21 1:56:59 PM
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ModLogic posted...
america always justifies their own crimes

Exactly

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AtelierRyza2462
01/19/21 8:52:02 PM
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Hope Biden won't take us to war...
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EricDraven59
01/19/21 8:56:01 PM
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Not surprised. China has no freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom of speech, freedom of internet
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creativerealms
01/19/21 8:58:19 PM
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Pompeo probably wishes America could do that to our Muslim population.

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pfh1001
01/19/21 8:59:20 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
It is. But Pompeo doesnt actually care.


Pretty much this.
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