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COVxy 01/20/21 2:42:26 PM #51:	Gwynevere posted... It's also a really weird take to be like "you cant criticize people for making decisions that look bad in retrospect" I don't know how you evaluate decisions any other way? Lol, like what? Fucking Saddam had already pulled us into a war before hand, then defied the subsequent sanctions, and was rising back up to power leading to the war in iraq. He was also posturing about having WMDs, though this was just a bluff. Idk, seems like being like "yeah dude, war is bad!" is a pretty shallow take. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:949720437] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite> <quote>It's also a really weird take to be like "you cant criticize people for making decisions that look bad in retrospect"</quote> I don't know how you evaluate decisions any other way? Lol, like what? Fucking Saddam had already pulled us into a war before hand, then defied the subsequent sanctions, and was rising back up to power leading to the war in iraq. He was also posturing about having WMDs, though this was just a bluff. Idk, seems like being like "yeah dude, war is bad!" is a pretty shallow take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 01/20/21 2:47:48 PM #52:	COVxy posted... f*ing Saddam had already pulled us into a war before hand Jesus Christ bro read some fucking history books --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:949720648] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>f*ing Saddam had already pulled us into a war before hand</quote> Jesus Christ bro read some fucking history books </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/20/21 2:48:42 PM #53:	What is the Gulf War? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:949720682] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>What is the Gulf War? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 01/20/21 2:49:56 PM #54:	COVxy posted... What is the Gulf War? A war that was started on a pack of lies just like the one Bush Sr.s son waged a dozen years later. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:949720736] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>What is the Gulf War?</quote> A war that was started on a pack of lies just like the one Bush Sr.s son waged a dozen years later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/20/21 2:54:17 PM #55:	Shablagoo posted... A war that was started on a pack of lies just like the one Bush Sr.s son waged a dozen years later. What? Lol... --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:949720933] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>A war that was started on a pack of lies just like the one Bush Sr.s son waged a dozen years later.</quote> What? Lol... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
samurai bandit 01/20/21 2:55:57 PM #56:	Technically, lots of people voted for the war. Some of them in favor and some against. --- Go and watch Ef ~ A tale of memories now! <cite>samurai bandit posted [p:949720999] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Technically, lots of people voted for the war. Some of them in favor and some against. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 01/20/21 5:10:55 PM #57:	samurai bandit posted... Technically, lots of people voted for the war. Some of them in favor and some against. listen here --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:949726040] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>samurai bandit posted... </cite> <quote>Technically, lots of people voted for the war. Some of them in favor and some against.</quote>listen here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 01/20/21 5:47:19 PM #59:	COVxy posted... I don't know how you evaluate decisions any other way? Exactly. So your intial post talking about how TCs evaluation of the Iraq war is completely done through retrospect doesn't serve much point. --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:949727275] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>I don't know how you evaluate decisions any other way?</quote>Exactly. So your intial post talking about how TCs evaluation of the Iraq war is completely done through retrospect doesn't serve much point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaWarrior455 01/20/21 5:56:32 PM #60:	Can't wait for 4 years of Covxy posting about why a bad decision Biden made is actually quite good. --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:949727593] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Can't wait for 4 years of Covxy posting about why a bad decision Biden made is actually quite good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/20/21 5:59:37 PM #61:	Gwynevere posted... Exactly. So your intial post talking about how TCs evaluation of the Iraq war is completely done through retrospect doesn't serve much point. What I mean is that the only reasonable way to evaluate a decision is how optimally the available information is integrated. A shitty decision isn't a shitty decision because of its outcome, though shitty decisions will on average have shittier outcomes. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:949727692] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite> <quote>Exactly. So your intial post talking about how TCs evaluation of the Iraq war is completely done through retrospect doesn't serve much point.</quote> What I mean is that the only reasonable way to evaluate a decision is how optimally the available information is integrated. A shitty decision isn't a shitty decision because of its outcome, though shitty decisions will on average have shittier outcomes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 01/20/21 6:00:21 PM #62:	COVxy posted... What? Lol... Which part of that sentence are you having trouble with, exactly? --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:949727721] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>What? Lol...</quote> Which part of that sentence are you having trouble with, exactly? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/20/21 6:00:55 PM #63:	And? Sadly back then most of the country supported it. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:949727737] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>And? Sadly back then most of the country supported it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/20/21 6:02:50 PM #64:	COVxy posted... What I mean is that the only reasonable way to evaluate a decision is how optimally the available information is integrated. A shitty decision isn't a shitty decision because of its outcome, though shitty decisions will on average have shittier outcomes. Just to be clear, let me give an example. Let's say I have two choices. I've spent enough time randomly sampling from each to know that choice A rewards me about 70% of the time, while choice B rewards me about 30% of the time. Based on this I choose A and I don't receive a reward. Was that a shitty choice? No, it was the optimal choice, but it had a shitty outcome. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:949727808] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>What I mean is that the only reasonable way to evaluate a decision is how optimally the available information is integrated. A shitty decision isn't a shitty decision because of its outcome, though shitty decisions will on average have shittier outcomes.</quote> Just to be clear, let me give an example. Let's say I have two choices. I've spent enough time randomly sampling from each to know that choice A rewards me about 70% of the time, while choice B rewards me about 30% of the time. Based on this I choose A and I don't receive a reward. Was that a shitty choice? No, it was the optimal choice, but it had a shitty outcome. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/20/21 6:03:51 PM #65:	Shablagoo posted... Which part of that sentence are you having trouble with, exactly? Was it a lie that Iraq invaded Kuwait? Like, not sure what you think the lie is. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:949727841] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Which part of that sentence are you having trouble with, exactly?</quote> Was it a lie that Iraq invaded Kuwait? Like, not sure what you think the lie is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 01/20/21 6:11:37 PM #66:	Plenty of Democrats voted against Iraq. It's not even like afghanistan where basically no one did except for the incredible barbara lee --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:949728108] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Plenty of Democrats voted against Iraq. It's not even like afghanistan where basically no one did except for the incredible barbara lee </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/20/21 6:20:30 PM #67:	Balrog0 posted... Plenty of Democrats voted against Iraq. It's not even like afghanistan where basically no one did except for the incredible barbara lee More split vote suggests a harder decision, no? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:949728420] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>Plenty of Democrats voted against Iraq. It's not even like afghanistan where basically no one did except for the incredible barbara lee</quote> More split vote suggests a harder decision, no? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 01/20/21 6:27:32 PM #68:	COVxy posted... Was it a lie that Iraq invaded Kuwait? Like, not sure what you think the lie is. Thats not why we went to war. We were told the worlds oil supply was in jeopardy, and then of course theres the infamous Nayirah testimony about war crimes that didnt exist. Kuwait and Iraq could have brokered peace but the U.S. stopped it. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-jan-05-op-marshall5-story.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:949728654] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Was it a lie that Iraq invaded Kuwait? Like, not sure what you think the lie is.</quote> Thats not why we went to war. We were told the worlds oil supply was in jeopardy, and then of course theres the infamous Nayirah testimony about war crimes that didnt exist. Kuwait and Iraq could have brokered peace but the U.S. stopped it. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-jan-05-op-marshall5-story.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rypt 01/20/21 6:29:12 PM #69:	Yeah but he's going to fix everything. <cite>Rypt posted [p:949728721] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Yeah but he's going to fix everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thrashmetal14 01/20/21 6:31:03 PM #70:	Certain people will excuse all of Biden's faults simply because he's not Trump. <cite>thrashmetal14 posted [p:949728785] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Certain people will excuse all of Biden's faults simply because he's not Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/20/21 7:46:58 PM #71:	thrashmetal14 posted... Certain people will excuse all of Biden's faults simply because he's not Trump. Not from the left. Maybe his fellow moderate liberals but leftists won't excuse him. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:949731425] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>thrashmetal14 posted... </cite> <quote>Certain people will excuse all of Biden's faults simply because he's not Trump.</quote>Not from the left. Maybe his fellow moderate liberals but leftists won't excuse him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 01/20/21 7:49:22 PM #72:	Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War. Joe Biden voted for the Iraq War. Donald Trump didn't vote for the Iraq War. Who would you vote for? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:949731502] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War. Joe Biden voted for the Iraq War. Donald Trump didn't vote for the Iraq War. Who would you vote for? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 01/21/21 12:50:57 PM #73:	Damn_Underscore posted... Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War. Joe Biden voted for the Iraq War. Donald Trump didn't vote for the Iraq War. We know who TC voted for. Shut the fuck up --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:949753683] in Joe Biden ... [t:79249848]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War. Joe Biden voted for the Iraq War. Donald Trump didn't vote for the Iraq War. We know who TC voted for.</quote>Shut the fuck up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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