Current Events > Mass Effect creators cut Jack same-sex romance partly due to Fox News

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g0ldie 01/22/21 1:10:31 PM #1:	https://www.ign.com/articles/mass-effect-2-developers-cut-jacks-same-sex-romance-seemingly-in-part-due-to-fox-news According to one of the game's writers, the Mass Effect 2 character Jack was originally written as pansexual, but her romance options were apparently changed late in development to only allow for a heterosexual romance, seemingly because of critical response to the first game's sex scenes, and a Fox News panel on Mass Effect. In an interview with The Gamer, Jack's lead writer, Brian Kindegran, said that the character was "essentially pansexual for most of the development of that romance." There are references in Mass Effect 2's dialogue to Jack's interest in men and women, which is why many fans have since wondered why Jack was only romanceable by a male Commander Shepard. Explaining the reasoning behind the change, Kindegran pointed to criticism from media outlets in the US: "Mass Effect had been pretty heavily and really unfairly criticized in the US by Fox News," Kindegran told The Gamer, referring to a 2007 panel about the use of sex scenes in the first game." "The development team of Mass Effect 2 was a pretty progressive, open-minded team, but I think there was a concern at pretty high levels that if Mass Effect, which only had one gay relationship, Liara - which on paper was technically not a gay relationship because she was from a mono-gendered species - I think there was a concern that if that had drawn fire, that Mass Effect 2 had to be a little bit careful. no wonder she turned down my Fem Shep --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. <cite>g0ldie posted [p:949793434] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>https://www.ign.com/articles/mass-effect-2-developers-cut-jacks-same-sex-romance-seemingly-in-part-due-to-fox-news <quote>According to one of the game's writers, the Mass Effect 2 character Jack was originally written as pansexual, but her romance options were apparently changed late in development to only allow for a heterosexual romance, seemingly because of critical response to the first game's sex scenes, and a Fox News panel on Mass Effect. In an interview with The Gamer, Jack's lead writer, Brian Kindegran, said that the character was "essentially pansexual for most of the development of that romance." There are references in Mass Effect 2's dialogue to Jack's interest in men and women, which is why many fans have since wondered why Jack was only romanceable by a male Commander Shepard. Explaining the reasoning behind the change, Kindegran pointed to criticism from media outlets in the US: "Mass Effect had been pretty heavily and really unfairly criticized in the US by Fox News," Kindegran told The Gamer, referring to a 2007 panel about the use of sex scenes in the first game." "The development team of Mass Effect 2 was a pretty progressive, open-minded team, but I think there was a concern at pretty high levels that if Mass Effect, which only had one gay relationship, Liara - which on paper was technically not a gay relationship because she was from a mono-gendered species - I think there was a concern that if that had drawn fire, that Mass Effect 2 had to be a little bit careful.</quote> no wonder she turned down my Fem Shep </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 01/22/21 1:11:36 PM #2:	That sucks tbh --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:949793479] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>That sucks tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 01/22/21 1:12:50 PM #4:	Fox News is garbage. Always has been, always will be. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:949793527] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Fox News is garbage. Always has been, always will be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/22/21 1:14:00 PM #5:	Fuck EA --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:949793572] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Fuck EA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 01/22/21 1:14:21 PM #6:	Crono99 posted... Damn, an entire panel attacking a video game because homosexuality exists Times really have changed where devs can make gay romances in games and it's....mostly not controversial --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:949793579] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote>Damn, an entire panel attacking a video game because homosexuality exists</quote>Times really have changed where devs can make gay romances in games and it's....mostly not controversial </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/22/21 1:17:00 PM #7:	Some stodgy codger whining about "those damn vidya games!" is just free advertising, and always has been. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:949793673] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Some stodgy codger whining about "those damn vidya games!" is just free advertising, and always has been. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cowthief 01/22/21 1:17:25 PM #8:	party of cancel culture --- There is no success like excess! <cite>Cowthief posted [p:949793687] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>party of cancel culture </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 01/22/21 1:18:18 PM #9:	It's not like they changed her being pansexual, but still sucks that's ultimately the reason she turns a relationship with FemShep down. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:949793714] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>It's not like they changed her being pansexual, but still sucks that's ultimately the reason she turns a relationship with FemShep down. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 01/22/21 1:18:29 PM #10:	They would have doubled-down if Fox News tried that today. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:949793722] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>They would have doubled-down if Fox News tried that today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 01/22/21 1:18:56 PM #11:	Don't know who'd want to romance Jack anyway. Easily the worst, least attractive party member. Even Miranda was better, with her grotesque Michael Jackson face. <cite>Esrac posted [p:949793737] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Don't know who'd want to romance Jack anyway. Easily the worst, least attractive party member. Even Miranda was better, with her grotesque Michael Jackson face. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 01/22/21 1:19:39 PM #12:	Jack had one of the two best romances in ME2. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:949793759] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Jack had one of the two best romances in ME2. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Socrawheeze 01/22/21 1:21:01 PM #14:	Shepard shouldn't be romancing his subordinates! But really though, what horse shit. <cite>Socrawheeze posted [p:949793823] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Shepard shouldn't be romancing his subordinates! But really though, what horse shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 01/22/21 1:24:33 PM #15:	Laaaame. Well at least the mystery of why Jack turns down FemShep despite being into both men and women is solved. --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:949793967] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Laaaame. Well at least the mystery of why Jack turns down FemShep despite being into both men and women is solved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 01/22/21 1:26:48 PM #16:	I remember someone here posted a link back then of FOX news utilizing Mass Effect to show a link between video games and violence. They even had a psychologist explaining it and I sent her an email telling her she should be ashamed of making those claims while being a psychologist. Adult me understands thats just fox news hiring someone to try and legitimize their agenda. Because guns are no longer a scapegoat when its all those violent games fault. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:949794070] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>I remember someone here posted a link back then of FOX news utilizing Mass Effect to show a link between video games and violence. They even had a psychologist explaining it and I sent her an email telling her she should be ashamed of making those claims while being a psychologist. Adult me understands thats just fox news hiring someone to try and legitimize their agenda. Because guns are no longer a scapegoat when its all those violent games fault. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/22/21 1:28:20 PM #17:	JuanCarlos1 posted... I remember someone here posted a link back then of FOX news utilizing Mass Effect to show a link between video games and violence. This has been a continuous occurrence since the 1970s. All that changes is the specific game some firehose is spouting off about. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:949794125] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite> <quote>I remember someone here posted a link back then of FOX news utilizing Mass Effect to show a link between video games and violence.</quote>This has been a continuous occurrence since the 1970s. All that changes is the specific game some firehose is spouting off about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 01/22/21 1:32:16 PM #18:	Jack definitely had the best face Terrible squadmate tho --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://error1355.com/ce/SSJGrimReaper.html <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:949794289] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Jack definitely had the best face Terrible squadmate tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 01/22/21 1:34:39 PM #19:	SSJGrimReaper posted... Terrible squadmate tho For real. She's shown to be some powerhouse biotic and then you get her and... probably the worst squad mate mechanically. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:949794377] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>SSJGrimReaper posted... </cite> <quote>Terrible squadmate tho</quote>For real. She's shown to be some powerhouse biotic and then you get her and... probably the worst squad mate mechanically. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 01/22/21 2:18:04 PM #20:	bump for *outrage* --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. <cite>g0ldie posted [p:949795979] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>bump for outrage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Choco 01/22/21 2:20:14 PM #21:	shithole america ruining everything as usual --- https://imgur.com/286sD4e http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html <cite>Choco posted [p:949796059] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>shithole america ruining everything as usual </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 01/22/21 2:21:58 PM #22:	Choco posted... shithole america ruining everything as usual Fuck off. --- https://imgur.com/Asq1ds6 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:949796125] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Choco posted... </cite> <quote>shithole america ruining everything as usual</quote> Fuck off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Choco 01/22/21 2:23:26 PM #23:	AmericaTheBrave posted... Fuck off. why --- https://imgur.com/286sD4e http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html <cite>Choco posted [p:949796171] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>AmericaTheBrave posted... </cite> <quote>Fuck off.</quote>why </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 01/22/21 2:23:57 PM #24:	Esrac posted... Don't know who'd want to romance Jack anyway. Easily the worst, least attractive party member. Even Miranda was better, with her grotesque Michael Jackson face. at the time, i would agree. i did not care for her in ME2 at all. however, recently, youtube has been recomending me a bunch of ME3 Jack videos, and now i love her --- https://imgur.com/cUNC8DI <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:949796195] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>Don't know who'd want to romance Jack anyway. Easily the worst, least attractive party member. Even Miranda was better, with her grotesque Michael Jackson face.</quote> at the time, i would agree. i did not care for her in ME2 at all. however, recently, youtube has been recomending me a bunch of ME3 Jack videos, and now i love her </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 01/22/21 2:25:39 PM #25:	Jack's redesign in ME3 was so good. Shoulda been a squadmate. --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:949796255] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Jack's redesign in ME3 was so good. Shoulda been a squadmate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 01/22/21 2:26:33 PM #26:	ROBANN_88 posted... at the time, i would agree. i did not care for her in ME2 at all. however, recently, youtube has been recomending me a bunch of ME3 Jack videos, and now i love her I would never say that she was a character I liked, but she was better in ME3 than ME2. <cite>Esrac posted [p:949796290] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>ROBANN_88 posted... </cite> <quote>at the time, i would agree. i did not care for her in ME2 at all. however, recently, youtube has been recomending me a bunch of ME3 Jack videos, and now i love her</quote> I would never say that she was a character I liked, but she was better in ME3 than ME2. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 01/22/21 2:28:03 PM #27:	They should restore it then. Felt weird that Jack could only be romanced by ManShep. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:949796348] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>They should restore it then. Felt weird that Jack could only be romanced by ManShep. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 01/22/21 2:29:44 PM #28:	I respect their decision to make a decision --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:949796407] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>I respect their decision to make a decision </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 01/22/21 2:32:01 PM #29:	Alucard188 posted... They should restore it then. Felt weird that Jack could only be romanced by ManShep. Now that would be interesting for the remaster if they did. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:949796500] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Alucard188 posted... </cite> <quote>They should restore it then. Felt weird that Jack could only be romanced by ManShep.</quote>Now that would be interesting for the remaster if they did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 01/22/21 2:33:19 PM #30:	Maybe folks should stop listening to media and not bend the knee to boomers like this case or sjws. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:949796553] in Mass Effec... [t:79253722]...</cite> <quote>Maybe folks should stop listening to media and not bend the knee to boomers like this case or sjws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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