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Zikten
01/26/21 2:37:52 PM
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https://youtu.be/m5LHzwo8skc

This happens all the God damn time........

Maybe send fucking mental health experts instead of cops?
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nothanks1
01/26/21 2:39:50 PM
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https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/23/us/patrick-warren-killeen-officer-shot-kill-video/index.html

In the video, Contreras can be seen letting himself into the home after he is told by someone inside to "come on in." Contreras quickly exits after Warren begins to yell and advance towards him.
Warren can be seen outside a residence advancing toward the officer in the front yard and ignoring verbal commands for him to lie down. After the officer steps backward and continues to issue warnings, like "You're gonna get tased," he uses his taser.
Warren initially falls down but then stands back up and continues to push toward the officer. Contreras uses the taser again, but Warren keeps advancing and Contreras deploys his firearm.


that's terrifying, tazed and the guy still went after the officer
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BuckVanHammer
01/26/21 2:43:47 PM
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ya id never call cops to go check on someone like that. why didn't the cop just get in his car? did he not know what he was responding to?

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I4NRulez
01/26/21 2:46:16 PM
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There was something wrong. The dude didnt even have a weapon.

So i've seen the excuses when people claim the guy had a knife or a gun. Now the guy simply walked towards him. Cops cant do shit in america. Shoot first ask questions later

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Zikten
01/26/21 2:46:59 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
There was something wrong. The dude didnt even have a weapon.

So i've seen the excuses when people claim the guy had a knife or a gun. Now the guy simply walked towards him. Cops cant do shit in america. Shoot first ask questions later

American police are cowards.
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pogo_rabid
01/26/21 2:47:09 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
As someone who has had cops show up for a mental health check, they sure as fuck dont make you feel any safer.

EDIT: I was living alone at the time, and lets just say I was in the middle of something very private.

Pretty sure the cops thought I had a gun or something poking out from my hoodie when I answered the door.

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EmbraceOfDeath
01/26/21 2:47:56 PM
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BuckVanHammer posted...
ya id never call cops to go check on someone like that. why didn't the cop just get in his car? did he not know what he was responding to?
Yeah, this. There was no reason for him to stand his ground and engage instead of getting in his car and figuring out what to do.

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UnfairRepresent
01/26/21 2:48:59 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
There was something wrong. The dude didnt even have a weapon.

So i've seen the excuses when people claim the guy had a knife or a gun. Now the guy simply walked towards him. Cops cant do shit in america. Shoot first ask questions later
Gah

I'm not excusing the cop. He could have handled this better and not killed a man. As people as saying he could have got in the car or not engaged.

Just know that "Well he doesn't have a weapon so who cares what he does?" is flawed reasoning

One knee to the bollocks, grab the cop's gun and now the unarmed man is armed

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R1masher
01/26/21 2:50:01 PM
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Thank god they dont know where I live

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nothanks1
01/26/21 2:51:05 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
bollocks

so now you're using british slang to be british?
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nothanks1
01/26/21 2:51:45 PM
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the article I posted epxlained cops had to be called
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Zikten
01/26/21 2:53:53 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
the article I posted epxlained cops had to be called

Well the video says they initially called for a social worker but for unknown reasons Dispatch changed it to an armed cop instead.

Anyway it's true that the cop could have retreated. Combination of cowardness, idiocy and thinking cops always have to stand their ground led to a murder of a confused mentally ill person that didn't need to die
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Rexdragon125
01/26/21 2:55:08 PM
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Zikten posted...
This happens all the God damn time........

Maybe send fucking mental health experts instead of cops?
New York and Denver are trying this, and the cities haven't burned down like republicans would have you believe

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-policing-new-york/new-york-city-to-try-responding-to-mental-health-calls-without-police-idUSKBN27Q33P

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/06/denver-star-program-mental-health-police/

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nothanks1
01/26/21 2:55:57 PM
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Zikten posted...

Well the video says they initially called for a social worker but for unknown reasons Dispatch changed it to an armed cop instead.

"It was a call for a psychiatric person," Kimble said. "But as the call taker was listening to the caller, if certain things are said, or certain things are heard, then it prompts a different response...It prompted a police response, and it prompted a response from fire and medics who were standing by."

No idea
I guess something they thought made him a danger to himself or others

I am guessing the second one since it would explain the order for the man to stop and then getting tazed on refusal
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Zikten
01/26/21 3:09:59 PM
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Outer_space posted...
They should send more than one cop for these situations.

Or have a social worker accompany the cop. Canceling the social worker was a really stupid move in this case.
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Dreepapult
01/26/21 3:33:32 PM
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Don't kill yourself, we'll do it for you

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Funkydog
01/26/21 3:37:55 PM
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Good ol' Police handling people having a crisis! What better way to help someone than kill them? That way they can't have a crisis ever again!


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pick4six
01/26/21 3:42:39 PM
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Horrifying video, another innocent murdered by cops, they're mostly untrained for situations such as this.
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Human_Username
01/26/21 3:44:27 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/23/us/patrick-warren-killeen-officer-shot-kill-video/index.html

In the video, Contreras can be seen letting himself into the home after he is told by someone inside to "come on in." Contreras quickly exits after Warren begins to yell and advance towards him.
Warren can be seen outside a residence advancing toward the officer in the front yard and ignoring verbal commands for him to lie down. After the officer steps backward and continues to issue warnings, like "You're gonna get tased," he uses his taser.
Warren initially falls down but then stands back up and continues to push toward the officer. Contreras uses the taser again, but Warren keeps advancing and Contreras deploys his firearm.

that's terrifying, tazed and the guy still went after the officer
Somehow this will be twisted against the officer, just like the dipshit with a knife some time back.

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ArchNemo
01/26/21 3:47:13 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
EDIT: I was living alone at the time, and lets just say I was in the middle of something very private.

Pretty sure the cops thought I had a gun or something poking out from my hoodie when I answered the door.

That's flattering.

Also PM sent
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Funkydog
01/26/21 3:49:00 PM
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Human_Username posted...
Somehow this will be twisted against the officer, just like the dipshit with a knife some time back.
Murder tends to be looked upon poorly, yes.

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CanuckCowboy
01/26/21 3:53:49 PM
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Human_Username posted...
Somehow this will be twisted against the officer, just like the dipshit with a knife some time back.

The officer who shot and killed a dude instead of leaving the immediate scene, calling for backup, and not escalating the situation?

Oh heavens no who could fault him?

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pogo_rabid
01/26/21 4:02:41 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
That's flattering.

Also PM sent
i didn't get one

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Comfy_Pillow
01/26/21 4:04:00 PM
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The only good time to call the police is when you want them to kill someone like a bank robber or home invader

You can't trust them with anything that requires more thought than "pew pew me big hero"
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EricDraven59
01/26/21 4:07:36 PM
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This story makes me so angry. Even the title alone makes me want to rage. But i wont say anything of what i really feel on this site since I'll get modded
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hockeybub89
01/26/21 4:14:21 PM
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Paragon21XX
01/26/21 4:16:28 PM
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Conflict posted...
"Advancing" with what

With these guns:
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Graycap
01/26/21 4:19:56 PM
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If no crime is being committed, don't call the fucking cops. They are apparently trained to treat everyone like a criminal.

These "health check" snitches need the shit beaten out of them.
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Cowthief
01/26/21 4:23:20 PM
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why is it a death sentence to do this for a black person but when dawkins does it he just gets treated with kiddie gloves?

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Zikten
01/26/21 4:23:38 PM
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Conflict posted...


Yeah that sounds like a good practice, beat the shit out of people for being concerned about someone's well being and not having any other option to ensure their safety

Cop had one way to ensure his safety. He could have run away. He didn't have to kill the guy
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nemu
01/26/21 4:26:12 PM
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Once the cop was in that specific situation, you can't really blame him, but there should be better systems in place so the cop isn't in that situation. Why is a single officer responding? Why don't they come equipped with something for restraining someone who is mentally ill but otherwise unarmed? It's fine to be prepared for the worst in case it's someone who wants to go suicide by cop, but otherwise they should be equipped and prepared to restrain someone who is going to physically resist and lacks the mental capacity to respond to commands.
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