Current Events > SPICY hot take on Sanders white, male, class privilege on inauguration.

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https://twitter.com/sfc_opinions/status/1356213758826311681

Obviously this is a crappy opinion newspaper column. Which are usually just toilet paper and I am sorry for spreading it further and encouraging dumb hot takes with clicks....but...it did make me laugh by how try hard this author is.

Before people get lit....
1. Breathe
2. Not everyone thinks like this
3. Her article isnt gonna change anything

Just smirk at the absurdity and move on

Literally all white males have white male privilege, that's the whole fucking point

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Oh no it's making me buy a sub guess I'm not reading it

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CyricZ posted...

Oh no it's making me buy a sub guess I'm not reading it

If youre on mobile use your reader view and you can read the article including without pop up ads

Blightzkrieg posted...

Literally all white males have white male privilege, that's the whole fucking point

True, there is a way she could have wrote this without using such inflammatory language lol

This is all that "woke" people got, they know Bernie is right but they can't stop getting hoodwinked by centrists so they resort to the "wow this your white male messiah?"

i agree

What is the lesson I'm supposed to learn here?
Poofy coat and oversized knitted gloves are "privileged" now?

CyricZ posted...

Oh no it's making me buy a sub guess I'm not reading it

Disable javascript. This is one of those sites that has "security" client-side, which is just dumb.

Couldn't read the article, but did check in some tweet replies, some of which referenced direct quotes.

From what I'm getting, it seems one of the centerpieces of the article is that Bernie was "privileged" to be able to dress as he did during the inauguration, while those who were female or POC who attended were "required" to be dressed to make a statement?

Is that accurate to the article, or is that just the repliers reading too heavily into it?

EDIT: Never mind. Turns out the article was nice and short and I was able to speed it before the popup happened.

One interesting thing I did find in the replies was someone posting a record of this woman's political donations, all of them to Biden.

Sooooo, we're pretty much looking at a "liberal against Bernie" take. I was gonna say "hit piece", but it's not long enough to even be that. "He's not the cool and nice guy you think he is because he has white privilege and got all the attention for his outfit".

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CyricZ posted...

Couldn't read the article

here you go.

Three weeks ago I processed the Capitol insurrection with my high school students. Rallying our inquiry skills, we analyzed the images of that historic day, images of white men storming through the Capitol, fearless and with no forces to stop them. This, I said, is white supremacy, this is white privilege. It can be hard to pinpoint, but when we see, it, we know it.Across our Zoom screen, they affirmed, with nods, thumbs-ups, and emojis of anger and frustration. Fast-forward two weeks as we analyzed images from the inauguration, asking again, What do we see? We saw diversity, creativity and humanity, and a nation embracing all of this and more. On the day of the inauguration, Bernie Sanders was barely on our radar. The next day, he was everywhere.
What do we see? I asked again. Weve been studying diversity and discrimination in the United States; my students were ready. What did they see? They saw a white man in a puffy jacket and huge mittens, distant not only in his social distancing, but in his demeanor and attire.
We took in the meaning of the day, the vulnerability of democracy, the power of ritual, traditions and the peaceful transition of power.
We talked about gender and the possible meanings of the attire chosen by Vice President Kamala Harris, Dr. Jill Biden, the Biden grandchildren, Michelle Obama, Amanda Gorman and others. We referenced the female warriors inspiring these women, the colors of their educational degrees and their monochromatic ensembles of pure power.
And there, across all of our news and social media feeds, was Bernie: Bernie memes, Bernie sweatshirts, endless love for Bernie. I puzzled and fumed as an individual as I strove to be my best possible teacher. What did I see? What did I think my students should see? A wealthy, incredibly well-educated and -privileged white man, showing up for perhaps the most important ritual of the decade, in a puffy jacket and huge mittens.
I mean in no way to overstate the parallels. Sen. Sanders is no white supremacist insurrectionist. But he manifests privilege, white privilege, male privilege and class privilege, in ways that my students could see and feel.
When you see privilege, you know it, Id told them weeks before. Yet, when they saw Sen. Bernie Sanders manifesting privilege, when seemingly no one else did, I struggled to explain that disparity. I am beyond puzzled as to why so many are loving the images of Bernie and his gloves. Sweet, yes, the gloves, knit by an educator. So Bernie.
Not so sweet? The blindness I see, of so many (Bernie included), to the privileges Bernie represents. I dont know many poor, or working class, or female, or struggling-to-be-taken-seriously folk who would show up at the inauguration of our 46th president dressed like Bernie. Unless those same folk had privilege. Which they dont.
Ingrid Seyer-Ochi is a former UC Berkeley and Mills College professor, ex-Oakland Unified School District principal and current San Francisco Unified School District high school teacher.

He's not even nominee let alone the president

it's time to let go, he's not going to make it next election cycle and stop attacking him

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shockthemonkey posted...

Oh wow its this take again but this time with mittens

I have no idea what take this is supposed to be.

Since when was wearing warm mittens in winter white privledge?

Jesus fuck what a dumbass

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Jesus fuck this is a nauseating read

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It's literally "Stop looking at Bernie! Stop it! He's not so cool!"

Also I notice she's speaking of a class she's giving, and yet omitting any kind of response her students themselves had, at least on the topic of the inauguration. "We talked about" various aspects that go around white privilege, but she doesn't actually have any responses that her students gave to this assertion.

Almost like this take is entirely in her own head and of her own making.

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CyricZ posted...

Almost like this take is entirely in her own head and of her own making.

Which CEgal is this?

Thing is, if the author thinks "white men, even nice ones, are white" i gotta say that's not as profound as her prose suggests she thinks it is.

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cuh posted...

Is this a Leftist take or a Right-wing take? I cant tell anymore

Liberals are not leftists

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poor kids are being brainwashed by this nut

cuh posted...

Is this a Leftist take or a Right-wing take? I cant tell anymore

Liberal, which is not the same thing as leftist. Leftists want to actually materially improve conditions for minorities/women/everyone, liberals just want to be woke and go "oh of course you'd vote for the white man" to leftists who support Bernie's policies. They only care performatively about representation and not actual policy

This take itself isn't a horseshoe thing. Horseshoe would be leftists and rightists both going "god liberals are fucking dumb" in response to the take

These people only want to tear each other down.

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CHM_Punk posted...

Nah. This take is grinding the horseshoe into dust, and then snorting it.

Questionmarktarius posted...

The blindness I see, of so many (Bernie included), to the privileges Bernie represents. I dont know many poor, or working class, or female, or struggling-to-be-taken-seriously folk who would show up at the inauguration of our 46th president dressed like Bernie.

She's not wrong about this. Y'all have to get this "if you say privilege, you mean evil" narrative out of your head.

It's a fact: there would have been an absolute uproar from certain crowds if someone like AOC showed up in this outfit. Acknowledging privilege isn't the end of the world.

We all have privileges that give us an advantage in certain situations. I'm white. If I go in a store, I don't have to worry about being racially profiled and followed by security. That's white privilege.

There's male privilege. There's skinny privilege. There's "no accent" privilege. It's not a word that means "everything is super easy for you." It's "this isn't instantly harder because you don't have this thing."

What Bernie wore was perfectly sensible for the weather. A good, thick winter jacket and mittens. I don't think it even looks that outrageous and neither did most people. God forbid if a woman wore it though. People would call her sloppy, manly, and disrespectful. It's actually completely legal in my state to require women (but not men) to wear an absurd amount of makeup to work.

_Rinku_ posted...

She's not wrong about this. Y'all have to get this "if you say privilege, you mean evil" narrative out of your head.

It's a fact: there would have been an absolute uproar from certain crowds if someone like AOC showed up in this outfit. Acknowledging privilege isn't the end of the world.

We all have privileges that give us an advantage in certain situations. I'm white. If I go in a store, I don't have to worry about being racially profiled and followed by security. That's white privilege.

There's male privilege. There's skinny privilege. There's "no accent" privilege. It's not a word that means "everything is super easy for you." It's "this isn't instantly harder because you don't have this thing."

What Bernie wore was perfectly sensible for the weather. A good, thick winter jacket and mittens. I don't think it even looks that outrageous and neither did most people. God forbid if a woman wore it though. People would call her sloppy, manly, and disrespectful. It's actually completely legal in my state to require women (but not men) to wear an absurd amount of makeup to work.

You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Theres ways she could have calmly explained this that wouldnt have people on their guard. As a teacher this should be known by her.

_Rinku_ posted...

God forbid if a woman wore it though. People would call her sloppy, manly, and disrespectful.

The whole point of the inauguration Bernie meme is ridicule, tho.

This is peak democrat.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

The whole point of the inauguration Bernie meme is ridicule, tho.

But its been tongue and cheek supportive. Unsure if Amy K would get the same positive press. But to Bernies credit he turned it back into a moment for donating and people.

CruelBuffalo posted...

You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Theres ways she could have calmly explained this that wouldnt have people on their guard. As a teacher this should be known by her.

That's actually false. Like, the saying. I know what you mean by it though.

Consider: would you find her words more "calm" if she were a man? I don't find them be particularly "angry" in the first place. "Annoyed," sure. It's not as though she's screaming that Bernie is evil for wearing a jacket.

Questionmarktarius posted...

The whole point of the inauguration Bernie meme is ridicule, tho.

Is that what you took from it? I saw them largely done in loving tribute. Good humor. Not harsh "ridicule" as you've observed.

_Rinku_ posted...

Good humor. Not harsh "ridicule" as you've observed.

Then... where's the Harris Converse memes?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Then... where's the Harris Converse memes?

I'm sorry, did you think you had a real zinger here?

_Rinku_ posted...

I'm sorry, did you think you had a real zinger here?

Memers are fickle. If it's "privilege" to get meme'd, that's not a privilege you'd want.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Memers are fickle. If it's "privilege" to get meme'd, that's not a privilege you'd want.

You seem to have completely ignored the explanation of what privilege is in this context. Bye.

That's actually false. Like, the saying. I know what you mean by it though.

Consider: would you find her words more "calm" if she were a man? I don't find them be particularly "angry" in the first place. "Annoyed," sure. It's not as though she's screaming that Bernie is evil for wearing a jacket.

I dont find her shrill or a B if thats what you are getting at. I would feel the same if a guy wrote this. You can see from the replies that people were put on the defensive because it comes across as an attack on Bernie.

Anyone else ever see that thread on reddit about some lady talking about how trashy and poor Sanders and his wife look, and how disturbing it would be to see someone so inelegant represent the highest level of office, then it turned out she's the granddaughter of a czar or some shit?

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Sanders is white and liberal and from vermont. I'm not sure saying he was priviledged or what that solves though. He probably was. So were a lot of these people and the idiocracy it breeds too. Sanders doesn't know everything. He at least has humility sometimes. I judge him more for that and who he is on other issues too and he's not always right.

This is the republicans retort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCiPMIViylw

CHM_Punk posted...

conspiracy theories

I fail to see how "80-year-old-guy keeps warm" is a conspiracy.

CruelBuffalo posted...

That's actually false. Like, the saying. I know what you mean by it though.

Consider: would you find her words more "calm" if she were a man? I don't find them be particularly "angry" in the first place. "Annoyed," sure. It's not as though she's screaming that Bernie is evil for wearing a jacket.

I dont find her shrill or a B if thats what you are getting at. I would feel the same if a guy wrote this. You can see from the replies that people were put on the defensive because it comes across as an attack on Bernie.

If you highlight the text and hit quote, it'll quote just that text.

I didn't really see people getting defensive over the Bernie thing. I'm sure there were a few that did, but that wasn't my experience by far.

_Rinku_ posted...

If you highlight the text and hit quote, it'll quote just that text.

I didn't really see people getting defensive over the Bernie thing. I'm sure there were a few that did, but that wasn't my experience by far.

https://twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1356268035812847619?s=21

Noted leftist mocking the author

white privilege is such a dumb concept. Does the homeless white guy on the street have white privilege?

Lol there's a dude defending this. You don't have to defend it, sometimes major newspapers just put out garbage and once you accept that fact it becomes easier to just laugh at this kinda crap and move on

Are the Democrats okay?

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