Poll of the Day > Is it important to day to attend college

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I think college depends on what career path someone intends pursue but unless you want to be a cog in that brutal capitalistic productivity environment that now grips America, college might be the only way to go.

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You couldnt keep to one college topic lol

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Fail/10

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FatalAccident posted...

You couldnt keep to one college topic lol

Dude needs to calm the fuck down

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Depends on the career you are looking to get into, but I think the importance of it is overstated in most cases. I would say for pretty much anything except Law, Business, and STEM, you probably don't need college. Everything else can mostly be done with an apprenticeship or on the job training.

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Very important - but there are very different college degrees.

I have made much more money with my associate's degree than I have with my bachelor's or master's (both in different subject areas) but the fact that I have a bachelors/masters has opened up (some) opportunities for me in my associate's field that wouldn't otherwise be available.

Trades pay very well (in some cases better than bachelor degrees), and many trade jobs can be obtained with an associate's degree or less.

Zero college? I know one guy who just retired at age 42 who has zero college - but he has been working the same job since he was 12 or so and was nearly the owner of the company a few years ago. It can be done, but it isn't the norm.

I'm of the thought that higher education is important for personal development, but not for career (well, depending on your career)

Being taught to think critically and not always accept things for what they seem is a skill that not enough people have if the nightly news is any indication

If you are motivated and have the brains and hustle, college is generally the superior option. You will get jobs with superior career advancement and won't be getting your body beat up as much. Its not that expensive where I live either, about 5 grand a semester at uni and practically free at community. It is pretty common to graduate with 26 k of debt which can paid off in a year or two and if it doesn't work out you can always go into the trades or military and pay off the debt that way. It is relatively low risk, but it is pretty competitive today so you have to be prepared to hustle

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Sometimes.
I got an engineering degree from an in state school, it was pretty cheap and gave me a useful education/degree. As long as the college is properly accredited, it works well enough.

Someone else I know got a marketing degree from a private college. She wanted to go there just because she loved the campus and surroundings, nothing to do w/ academics or anything. My entire 4 year cost was about equal to one year for her, and she's never gotten a job from her degree (and while marketing...sadly...can be lucrative, her studies were also an afterthought and she had to be talked into changing majors by her parents from a completely useless one).

ReggieTheReckless posted...

I'm of the thought that higher education is important for personal development, but not for career (well, depending on your career)

Being taught to think critically and not always accept things for what they seem is a skill that not enough people have if the nightly news is any indication

Sure, I actually agree. College was my favorite time in my life, it was both fun and important for development.
Just...do it on the cheap. You don't need the hyper expensive private liberal arts college with the fancy recently remodeled facilities and immaculated cared for grounds to learn and socialize.
Too many people pick a college based on how prestigious and attractive it looks, price be damned, and I will never feel an ounce of sympathy for them with their inescapable debt. They deserve it. The range in prices for colleges is massive, anyone choosing the pricey school knows what they're getting into and don't care.

it depends

I think its pretty sad that so many people dont go to college nowadays simply to avoid the crushing debt associated with it

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Kotenks posted...

I'm interested in how the millennial generation will handle college for their kids. They won't view it like their parents did. I know several people in this age range that see college as a huge scam. Even my friend whom is doing well thinks the current system is predatory, evil and should be abolished. Myself, I'd have reservations about recommending it unless a person studies a degree for a lucrative field.

I think it's a bit of a scam that still gets you a piece of paper that often gets you better jobs.

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Mead posted...

it depends

I think its pretty sad that so many people dont go to college nowadays simply to avoid the crushing debt associated with it

I am 29, and did 2 separate years of college in my earlier 20s. I was terrified of student debt. Now I've finally grown comfortable with it and am in a Networking and Telecommunications Engineering program. I just know that I can work as I have for the last 15 years, and make the money back. Plus it'll be easier since I'll actually be able to crack $20/h, if not $30/h.

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Yes, because the bubble hasnt burst and there arent alternatives nor does the world respect entrepreneurship the way it used to before tge 70s.

in the 70s -80s America adopted this pattern for success being goto high school goto college graduate get job work up corporate ladder.

that was the map for success in the 70s and 80s and were moved away from a high respect for entrepreneurship, depending on your age if you ask your grandparents what they did for a living odds are you are likely to get a number of different things in diff fields.

college has taken on this greater level of importance because of that but at the same time todays college is the educational respected equivalent of what graduating high school was in the 80s. the problem is that many industries look at college like a high school diploma, and a masters degree is the new college.

this was all pre pandemic and based on American colleges and job culture. The cost-reward of college has been steadily dropping to the point that from a pure cost-return analysis unless you went to an IVY league school your bump in salary was not financially worth the price of college especially with loans whereas employers still would not hire you without a degree.

• there are many things tied to this and many tangents to go on but rather than a broad discussion Im just saying what the history and general overviews of college and the catch 22 many kids are in these days.

who the fuck knows what is gonna happen after covid 19, covid has changed many industries and likely that will happen with most colleges in many ways too.

how? Your guess is as good as mine.

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Nope. If you're charismatic enough, you can charm your way up the ladder. Like I'm doing.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

I think college depends on what career path someone intends pursue

This. It's best to have then to have no though.


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BUMPED2002 posted...

I think college depends on what career path someone intends pursue but unless you want to be a cog in that brutal capitalistic productivity environment that now grips America, college might be the only way to go.

lolwut? Going to college is generally the first step in that "brutal capitalistic productivity environment", although it's worth noting that the US isn't even that even productive any more.

FatalAccident posted...

You couldnt keep to one college topic lol

He can't limit his troll topics and joke topics like that. The icing on the cake is him misspelled "today"

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Considering that standards have dropped at the same time prices have risen, most American colleges are basically diploma mills at this point.

DragonClaw01 posted...

If you are motivated and have the brains and hustle, college is generally the superior option.

If you're actually motivated and have brains and hustle, you don't really need college at all because you could be on your way to being a millionaire before even finishing high school. College is formalized, accredited learning; while that's necessary for certain fields -- particularly ones where government blocks people from getting into them -- you can easily learn all of the same skills in a fraction of the time (since you wouldn't have gen ed requirements or be held back in your learning).

Conner4REAL posted... Yes, because the bubble hasnt burst and there arent alternatives nor does the world respect entrepreneurship the way it used to before tge 70s.

While this account has had countless joke topics, this is probably the most ridiculous. For the first time in history, the world now has MULTIPLE reality tv shows devoted to entrepreneurship, an idea that would have been unthinkable even in the 90s. The world WORSHIPS entrepreneurs, even if it sometimes disdains them once they're successful.

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College is largely a scam unless you are pursuing something specific.

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