Current Events > How was Columbia meant to be the parallel to Rapture? (Bioshock)

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Outside of one being hyper religious and one not, they don't really share any common themes

The best thing to do when playing Bioshock Infinite is to not think too hard about it

Or at all

I guess both had exclusionary societies, and both of their downfalls could be attributed to (at least partly) how they treated and overlooked their underclass

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Thats because bioshock infinite was reduced radically and changed from scratch from its inception. The game is NOTHING like the trailer we saw.

rapture and Columbia were meant to connect through the tears. There is still a small remnant of it in the game, when youre taken to rapture and you can see a little sister and big daddy in the background . Also there is a kick ass Easter egg where you can hear the giant bird, whatever its name was, drowning in the original bio shock

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Wait a minute that card...

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@coh

here is the big daddy Easter egg (spoilers!!)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mAoJimnCp_4

and now hear how it matches this scene from bio shock 1:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8QieRYU8ZQE


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Here is another hint of how badly the game was cut:

many mini-boss characters have massive amounts of voice overs. Like, 6 minutes worth of it, for example:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RfjdhGCkX6w

why waste the resources to come up with these awesome and creepy voice overs for a character (s) you barely interact with other than a gun fight scene?

its obvious they planned much more for them

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DarthAragorn posted...

The best thing to do when playing Bioshock Infinite is to not think too hard about it

Or at all

refmon posted...

Wait a minute that card...

lmao
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Have you guys heard of the unfinished island and lighthouse hidden in the game?

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I honestly think infinite doesn't get enough hate for being a terrible game. Not just a disappointing one, but rather a straight up terrible one. I'm not even that invested in the bioshock series and even I felt disappointment as I was playing this game, realizing that it was literally just a shooter.

I remember that one 2011 trailer, E3 or otherwise, that made the game look unbelievably fantastical, with the girl having transdimensional powers woven into the story/gameplay, and the bird was actually a boss or something, not just a freaking cutscene setpiece.
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saspa posted...

I honestly think infinite doesn't get enough hate for being a terrible game. Not just a disappointing one, but rather a straight up terrible one. I'm not even that invested in the bioshock series and even I felt disappointment as I was playing this game, realizing that it was literally just a shooter.

I remember that one 2011 trailer, E3 or otherwise, that made the game look unbelievably fantastical, with the girl having transdimensional powers woven into the story/gameplay, and the bird was actually a boss or something, not just a freaking cutscene setpiece.

i liked infinite, but I can tell its not 10% of the game it was supposed to be.

characters like the handyman, the songbird, the flamethrower dude and the creepy George Washington robot were supposed to have huge roles in the game, and Elizabeth was supposed to have a ton of different mechanics.

I recently learned there is a cut desert area in the game and a cut space area too


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SPE posted...

i liked infinite, but I can tell its not 10% of the game it was supposed to be.

characters like the handyman, the songbird, the flamethrower dude and the creepy George Washington robot were supposed to have huge roles in the game, and Elizabeth was supposed to have a ton of different mechanics.

I recently learned there is a cut desert area in the game and a cut space area too

Why did so many things get cut?

Ruvan22 posted...

Why did so many things get cut?

Time and budget. Same reason Cyberpunk is missing tons of content and mechanics.

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Ruvan22 posted...

Why did so many things get cut?

probably because the devs got too ambitious. They made the best looking game of its generation (bio shock) and they introduced all of these awesome mechanics that were new and exciting. They thought they could do it all.

bio shock infinite was supposed to be their masterpiece: a massive game that would somehow connect to bioshock 1/2 and system shock. The game would have a poignant political commentary vs old timey racism and religiosity, and the game was going to play like a giant cutscene.

time, money and system limitations resulted in all of that not happening, and some characters were even changed drastically in mechanics (eg the ghost character and the boys of silence). Certain powers that be didnt like the critique on racism/zealotry so they toned it down and introduced Vox to have a bOtH sIdEs element to balance it out.

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Calling it a terrible game is an exaggeration as well. Its just a slightly above average game for the time. Wouldnt have scored as well if it was released today

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This is why I have still only played the first.

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Frizzurd posted...

This is why I have still only played the first.

2 was good, and it had multiplayer

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Bioshock is just one giant game allegory for the horseshoe theory

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https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/bioshock-infinite

Just so people remember people here don't reflect the overall views on Bioshock Infinite. It's just a game people chose to dogpile on after the fact.

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I thought it was a decent enough shooter that didn't try to be any more than that, but then again I found the first game massively overrated

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eston posted...

I thought it was a decent enough shooter that didn't try to be any more than that, but then again I found the first game massively overrated

When did you play the first?

When it came out it was amazing.

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I didn't play it right when it came out, but I played it before the second game was out. Tbqh the only thing I really liked about the first Bioshock was the setting. I didn't even like the story much

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Alteres posted...

When did you play the first?

When it came out it was amazing.

The two weapon limit just killed the game for me right out of the box

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The only new gen FPS I had played before bioshock were halo and Medal of Honor.

They put me to sleep. Bioshock seemed so much cooler at the time to me.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/bioshock-infinite

Just so people remember people here don't reflect the overall views on Bioshock Infinite. It's just a game people chose to dogpile on after the fact.

Appealing to game journalists is a fallacy. It's the biggest example of a game that wowed people with its initial flashiness and shocking twists before they realized looking back just how flawed and lacking of substance both the story and gameplay is. The "wait a minute that card" video pokes fun at how absurdly pretentious reviewers were about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
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I so not see Multiplayer as a plus. lol

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Frizzurd posted...

I so not see Multiplayer as a plus. lol

well its optional :p

it was actually a good multiplayer, far better than DOOM Eternals

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I enjoyed the game and it's DLC. The ending definitely tripped me out.

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