Current Events > Biden Iran has to follow agreement that WE broke, before we work with them.

Topic List
Page List: 1
cjsdowg
02/09/21 8:24:05 AM
#1:


https://twitter.com/joebamatrump/status/1358935784661938176

This is some bullshit. America BROKE the agreement. And Biden is saying that they have to the first people to come back to it. How is that logical at all.

---
Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?
... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueTigerLion
02/09/21 8:25:52 AM
#2:


Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

---
Hey now.
... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1
02/09/21 8:26:33 AM
#3:


Hope we do go back. Irans economy has been devastated by this and will only help radicalize ppl when they have less opportunities in life. Hopefully Biden is putting a tough act for the republicans that will whine about this.

---
Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer...
... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios
02/09/21 8:27:14 AM
#4:


Biden's America. You people wanted him. Now you got him.

---
S / K / Y / N / E
Twitch/YouTube/GT: Adzeta
... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz
02/09/21 8:27:34 AM
#5:


JuanCarlos1 posted...
Hope we do go back. Irans economy has been devastated by this and will only help radicalize ppl when they have less opportunities in life. Hopefully Biden is putting a tough act for the republicans that will whine about this.
They'll mock him for maintaining Trump's position.

---
FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) | RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving/Crafting/RC
https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/
... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent
02/09/21 8:32:30 AM
#6:


Vicious_Dios posted...
Biden's America. You people wanted him. Now you got him.

except the people here didn't want biden
they wanted bernie to an overwhelming majority

---
i'm Trent B and i get respect
your cash and your jewelry is what i expect
... Copied to Clipboard!
2Pacavelli
02/09/21 8:33:47 AM
#7:


I'm proud to say I abstained in the last Election. Did not vote for Jim Crow Joe
... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338
02/09/21 8:53:07 AM
#8:


It was a multi country agreement. So technically both the US and Iran violated it.

I dont have a problem with the US owing them what they deserved but they did begin making fissionable material again.

Justified or not, they have to stop making nuclear material if they want the payoff. And they should have been more patient and waited for Biden. Restarting their reactors just pissed everyone off.

---
Moustache twirling villian
https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey
... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatEscape
02/09/21 8:57:17 AM
#9:


JuanCarlos1 posted...
Hope we do go back. Irans economy has been devastated by this and will only help radicalize ppl when they have less opportunities in life. Hopefully Biden is putting a tough act for the republicans that will whine about this.

also the sanctions put on Iran are absolutely not helping to reach the ultimate goal of preventing them from making nuclear weaponry.

---
The user formerly known as RogerHuxley
... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218
02/09/21 8:57:50 AM
#10:


The whole point was to stop them from making nukes. They shouldnt be rewarded for making nukes, despite Trump tearing up the deal in the first place.

---
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel.
https://discord.gg/Wgtz2y9 - Come join us for Among Us
... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338
02/09/21 9:01:14 AM
#11:


TheGreatEscape posted...
also the sanctions put on Iran are absolutely not helping to reach the ultimate goal of preventing them from making nuclear weaponry.
They stopped until Trump got involved. So it did work.

---
Moustache twirling villian
https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey
... Copied to Clipboard!
#12
Post #12 was unavailable or deleted.
RadiantJoyrock
02/09/21 9:02:30 AM
#13:


2Pacavelli posted...
I'm proud to say I abstained in the last Election. Did not vote for Jim Crow Joe
That's not something to be proud of.
... Copied to Clipboard!
WrkHrdPlayHrdr
02/09/21 9:03:47 AM
#14:


The Trent posted...
except the people here didn't want biden
they wanted bernie to an overwhelming majority

Really? The vote tally says otherwise. How many did Bernie get in the general?

---
"No. I'm a man so theyll get me a full size McDouble." - DuncanWii
https://imgur.com/cSxy3Od
... Copied to Clipboard!
realtalkguy
02/09/21 9:06:27 AM
#15:


The foreign policy expert I follow Vipin Narang thinks Biden is bad for doing this.

Come on if Iran gets nukes the entire middle east does.
... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent
02/09/21 9:14:36 AM
#16:


WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
Really? The vote tally says otherwise. How many did Bernie get in the general?

do we mean "here" as in america or "here" as in CE because i feel like we're talking about two different heres

---
i'm Trent B and i get respect
your cash and your jewelry is what i expect
... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art
02/09/21 9:17:24 AM
#17:


If the deal was to stop them from making fissionable material doesn't it make sense to want them to stop?

---
Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009
https://imgur.com/mPvcy
... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg
02/09/21 9:29:06 AM
#18:


Doom_Art posted...
If the deal was to stop them from making fissionable material doesn't it make sense to want them to stop?

They were following the deal and we broke it. They have said they would stop with in a hour of a America signing the deal. Why should they stop first when America literally broke the deal.

---
Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?
... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338
02/09/21 9:53:57 AM
#19:


cjsdowg posted...
They were following the deal and we broke it. They have said they would stop with in a hour of a America signing the deal. Why should they stop first when America literally broke the deal.
If you truly need someone to explain that to you...

---
Moustache twirling villian
https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey
... Copied to Clipboard!
WrkHrdPlayHrdr
02/09/21 10:00:14 AM
#20:


The Trent posted...
do we mean "here" as in america or "here" as in CE because i feel like we're talking about two different heres

Ah okay. Maybe I misunderstood your "here" then. I sounded a little more aggressive then I meant to in my post too so sorry about that.

---
"No. I'm a man so theyll get me a full size McDouble." - DuncanWii
https://imgur.com/cSxy3Od
... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatEscape
02/09/21 10:17:32 AM
#21:


divot1338 posted...
They stopped until Trump got involved. So it did work.

sure but breaking the deal they had before make the current sanctions worthless. Why would Iran trust the US now? Why would they submit to more pressure when they know the other party is not trustworthy? They respected their end of a deal that ultimately meant nothing.

---
The user formerly known as RogerHuxley
... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex
02/09/21 10:18:40 AM
#22:


TheGreatEscape posted...
sure but breaking the deal they had before make the current sanctions worthless. Why would Iran trust the US now? Why would they submit to more pressure when they know the other party is not trustworthy? They respected their end of a deal that ultimately meant nothing.
This. We broke the deal, why should they trust us not to do it again the next time a Republican wins the presidency.

---
"If you wish to converse with me define your terms"
Voltaire
... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338
02/09/21 10:23:37 AM
#23:


TheGreatEscape posted...
sure but breaking the deal they had before make the current sanctions worthless. Why would Iran trust the US now? Why would they submit to more pressure when they know the other party is not trustworthy? They respected their end of a deal that ultimately meant nothing.
That is an excellent point for why no one should ever vote for a Republican again.

But your argument was that Obamas plan didnt work.

It did.

---
Moustache twirling villian
https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey
... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan
02/09/21 10:24:26 AM
#24:


divot1338 posted...
They stopped until Trump got involved. So it did work.

They never stopped. ICBM development continued and they built their reactors deep into mountain ranges to make them resistant to attack.

Don't confuse "we won't actively refine nuke ready fissible material" with "we aren't working towards nukes."

10 years of economic prosperity would have them walk out the other end of the deal with the means to build nukes, the resources to deploy them anywhere in the world, the infrastructure protection to make it hard to stop, and the financial stability to weather any global sanctions.

---
"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338
02/09/21 10:25:35 AM
#25:


ScazarMeltex posted...
This. We broke the deal, why should they trust us not to do it again the next time a Republican wins the presidency.
Not being a nuclear terrorist state is its own reward.

Compare the quality of life from Iran before the revolution with today. Thats what their nuclear program is costing them.

---
Moustache twirling villian
https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey
... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg
02/09/21 10:30:13 AM
#26:


s0nicfan posted...
They never stopped. ICBM development continued and they built their reactors deep into mountain ranges to make them resistant to attack.

Don't confuse "we won't actively refine nuke ready fissible material" with "we aren't working towards nukes."

10 years of economic prosperity would have them walk out the other end of the deal with the means to build nukes, the resources to deploy them anywhere in the world, the infrastructure protection to make it hard to stop, and the financial stability to weather any global sanctions.

All international groups looking into this said they were following the agreement , that the whole world liked... besides Republicans,SA and Israel.


---
Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?
... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg
02/09/21 10:30:50 AM
#27:


divot1338 posted...
Not being a nuclear terrorist state is its own reward.

Compare the quality of life from Iran before the revolution with today. Thats what their nuclear program is costing them.

Who is the only country to use the Bomb ? Just wondering ?

---
Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?
... Copied to Clipboard!
Chad-Henne
02/09/21 10:31:44 AM
#28:


yeah but have you considered that i scare myself with stories about iran every night before bed

---
... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex
02/09/21 10:35:23 AM
#29:


divot1338 posted...
Not being a nuclear terrorist state is its own reward.

Compare the quality of life from Iran before the revolution with today. Thats what their nuclear program is costing them.
I don't dispute that, but that's also not relevant as to the fact that the US broke the treaty and thus Iran has no reason to trust anything that comes out of a US diplomat's mouth.
Also, the US being the only country to ever use a nuke, primarily for the purpose intimidating the USSR, means we don't get to call other countries nuclear terrorists, sorry.
Also, quality of life in Iran went downhill the instant a dictatorship based in religious zealotry took over. Their nuke program has certainly accelerated it though.

---
"If you wish to converse with me define your terms"
Voltaire
... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338
02/09/21 10:36:12 AM
#30:


cjsdowg posted...
Who is the only country to use the Bomb ? Just wondering ?
Dont pussyfoot around.

Are you suggesting the United States is a nuclear terrorist state?

---
Moustache twirling villian
https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey
... Copied to Clipboard!
2Pacavelli
02/09/21 10:38:54 AM
#31:


America is the biggest terrorist state in the world. Responsible for the most deaths and destabilized governments in the world. What happened in Libya?
... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan
02/09/21 10:39:34 AM
#32:


cjsdowg posted...
All international groups looking into this said they were following the agreement , that the whole world liked... besides Republicans,SA and Israel.

The agreement didn't have clauses on missile development, refinery placement restrictions, or ongoing international terrorist activity. Your post doesn't contradict with mine at all.

Iran insists their missile program is non negotiable:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iran-s-ballistic-missile-program-non-negotiable-president-hassan-rouhani-n1251072
TEHRAN Iran's ballistic missile program and its regional influence were non-negotiable, President Hassan Rouhani said Monday in a possible effort to set the terms of future nuclear talks with President-elect Joe Biden.

"The missiles program and regional issues have nothing to do with the nuclear issue," Rouhani said in a response to a question by NBC News at a press conference in Tehran.

---
"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony
02/09/21 10:46:19 AM
#33:


Who posted

---
I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics.
... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles
02/09/21 10:48:27 AM
#34:


Vicious_Dios posted...
Biden's America. You people wanted him. Now you got him.

Says the rabid Trump supporter.

---
... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1
02/09/21 10:49:40 AM
#35:


divot1338 posted...
Dont pussyfoot around.

Are you suggesting the United States is a nuclear terrorist state?
It is, quite clearly

---
Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent
... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent
02/09/21 10:59:36 AM
#36:


cjsdowg posted...
Who is the only country to use the Bomb ? Just wondering ?

who's the only country with the balls to use the Bomb?
that's right baby
good? bad? we're the guy with the Bomb.

---
i'm Trent B and i get respect
your cash and your jewelry is what i expect
... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art
02/09/21 11:07:45 AM
#37:


DirkDiggles posted...
Says the rabid Trump supporter.
As was said earlier ITT, I don't think they realize how stupid this makes them look lol

---
Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009
https://imgur.com/mPvcy
... Copied to Clipboard!
#38
Post #38 was unavailable or deleted.
Bio1590
02/09/21 11:21:01 AM
#39:


divot1338 posted...

Not being a nuclear terrorist state is its own reward.

Compare the quality of life from Iran before the revolution with today. Thats what their nuclear program is costing them.

Which of their US-backed revolutions are you referring to here
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatEscape
02/09/21 11:56:16 AM
#40:


divot1338 posted...
That is an excellent point for why no one should ever vote for a Republican again.

But your argument was that Obamas plan didnt work.

It did.

oh my point is that sanctions don't work anymore; i agree that before the deal was broken it actually worked, with the included potential sanctions.

---
The user formerly known as RogerHuxley
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1