Current Events > ICE deport 72 to Haiti in apparent violation of Biden order

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Antifar
02/09/21 2:00:07 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/08/us-ice-immigration-customs-enforcement-haiti-deportations
US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) deported at least 72 people to Haiti on Monday, including a two-month-old baby and 21 other children, in an apparent flagrant breach of the Biden administrations orders only to remove suspected terrorists and potentially dangerous convicted felons.

The children were deported to Haiti on Monday on two flights chartered by Ice from Laredo, Texas to the Haitian capital Port-au-Prince. The removals sent vulnerable infants back to Haiti as it is being roiled by major political unrest.

Ice is facing a rising chorus of denunciation as a rogue agency for its apparent refusal to abide by the new guidelines laid down by Biden and his homeland security secretary, Alejandro Mayorkas. The incoming administration ordered a 100-day moratorium on all deportations, which was temporarily blocked by a judge in Texas.

However, the judges restraining order left in place the new guidelines stipulating that only the most serious immigration cases should be subject to deportation.

Last Friday, the administration appeared to gain the upper hand in its attempt to rein in Ice when deportation flights to Haiti were suspended. But on Monday the immigration agency reasserted itself again with the renewed flights to Port-au-Prince, children and infants on board.

Human rights activists are dismayed by the deportations, which bear a close resemblance to the hardline course set by Donald Trump. It is unconscionable for us as a country to continue with the same draconian, cruel policies that were pursued by the Trump administration, said Guerline Jozef, executive director of the immigration support group the Haitian Bridge Alliance.

She added: I dont know whats going on between Ice and the Biden administration, but we know what needs to be done: the deportations must stop.

Immigration advisers are especially concerned about the safety of the Haitian children deported on Monday, given that they are being returned to a country that is embroiled in rapidly mounting political turmoil. The Haitian president, Jovenel Mose, is refusing to heed opposition calls for him to step down in a dispute over the end of his term his detractors say he should have left office on 7 February.

Mose has been ruling by decree for more than a year and has recently cracked down on public protests. On Sunday, the day that opponents urged him to stand down, he announced the arrests of 23 people including a supreme court justice and a senior police inspector whom he claimed were plotting a coup against him.

Two Haitian journalists were reportedly shot with live ammunition fired by the armed forces on Monday in volatile scenes in the Champ de Mars in downtown Port-au-Prince.

The Biden administration has stoked further controversy by backing Mose in the dispute. The US government has announced it takes the view that the Haitian president has another year to run before he must leave office.

Jozef said it was not safe to return children to this environment. I fear for the kids being sent into the middle of this uprising. Its as if there is a house burning, and instead of taking people out for their own safety the United States is sending defenseless babies into the burning house.

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HylianFox
02/09/21 2:02:09 PM
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it's high time ICE was disbanded

I mean fuck, its acronym even sounds like some supervillain organization

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modena
02/09/21 2:02:46 PM
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Haiti? Damn

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teep_
02/09/21 2:03:46 PM
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Isn't this literal treason?
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HBKick18
02/09/21 2:04:36 PM
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ice is literally pure evil. fuck them

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Zikten
02/09/21 2:05:54 PM
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teep_ posted...
Isn't this literal treason?

Yes. ICE needs to be disbanded now. And people responsible for these deportations convicted of treason
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Irony
02/09/21 2:06:50 PM
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Time to arrest some ICE agents

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FantasticAssGas
02/09/21 2:06:54 PM
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Biden just started as president, I'm gonna go with ICE having the better judgement here and don't believe what this anti-enforcement article is putting out.
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TheLiarParadox
02/09/21 2:07:30 PM
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van Spronsen did nothing wrong.

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DrizztLink
02/09/21 2:08:36 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...
I'm gonna go with ICE having the better judgement here
That is literally the only thing you had to say for us to know your opinion doesn't matter.

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FantasticAssGas
02/09/21 2:12:53 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
That is literally the only thing you had to say for us to know your opinion doesn't matter.

Fair enough

Just wonder why you guys would be fine with continuing to fill up the Biden Illegal Immigrant Overflow facilities instead
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Antifar
02/09/21 2:14:19 PM
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You know you aren't obligated to match your post content to your username

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Bio1590
02/09/21 2:15:09 PM
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Why is the guy that assumed the duties of the Director of ICE a week before the inauguration still in charge of it? Biden got the Secretary of DHS through the Senate already
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hockeybub89
02/09/21 2:15:19 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...
Biden just started as president, I'm gonna go with ICE having the better judgement here and don't believe what this anti-enforcement article is putting out.
Yeah those children were bad news. Better send them back to die like we're fucking China sending people back to North Korea

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Weezy_Tha_Don
02/09/21 2:17:18 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...
Biden just started as president, I'm gonna go with ICE having the better judgement here and don't believe what this anti-enforcement article is putting out.

great username since this is a complete shit post

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Vicious_Dios
02/09/21 2:18:26 PM
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Biden's presidency has begun, folks. :D Enjoy.

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Zikten
02/09/21 2:18:56 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Biden's presidency has begun, folks. :D Enjoy.

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NinjaWarrior455
02/09/21 2:19:20 PM
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It's high time that ICE be disbanded and all agents arrested and prosecuted.

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/09/21 2:19:57 PM
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Life imprisonment for the ICE agents.

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FantasticAssGas
02/09/21 2:20:39 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Yeah those children were bad news. Better send them back to die like we're fucking China sending people back to North Korea

Upper teens and twenty year olds being passed as 'children'.
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hockeybub89
02/09/21 2:20:47 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Biden's presidency has begun, folks. :D Enjoy.
Remember when your boy Trump ordered the concentration camps on our border to be shut down instead of ramping up their usage? Me neither.

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Tenlaar
02/09/21 2:21:14 PM
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I may not agree with the moratorium or specific deportation policies that Biden has laid out but there is no acceptable reason for ICE to act like they are some totally independent agency that can ignore directives from the White House. There should be serious consequences for the people in charge of this.
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FantasticAssGas
02/09/21 2:22:13 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Remember when your boy Trump ordered the concentration camps on our border to be shut down instead of ramping up their usage? Me neither.

It was a program started by Obama the Savior, why no complaints from yall then?
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KStateKing17
02/09/21 2:22:15 PM
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On top of ICE being disbanded, none of the members should be allowed to hold any positions in law enforcement.

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hockeybub89
02/09/21 2:22:42 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...
Upper teens and twenty year olds being passed as 'children'.
Well clearly the children are expendable if there are also adults among them fleeing war torn countries and dictatorships

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Zikten
02/09/21 2:23:15 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...


It was a program started by Obama the Savior, why no complaints from yall then?

if it was started by Obama then shouldn't you be against it?
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FantasticAssGas
02/09/21 2:30:01 PM
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Zikten posted...
if it was started by Obama then shouldn't you be against it?

Why would I have been against?

Obama had some sense, he wasn't a far leftist.
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hockeybub89
02/09/21 2:30:33 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...
It was a program started by Obama the Savior, why no complaints from yall then?
Obama is a war criminal who should be in jail. Trump should have shut them down if he hated them so bad. Apparently Obama giving gay people rights was bad and had to be rolled back, but Obama's concentration camps were a great idea to be expanded on?

If someone handed me a gun and told me to shoot as part of my new job replacing them, it's my fault if I grab two more guns and a machete and go on a rampage. They aren't in charge anymore. I had a chance to end the bloodshed.

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ElatedVenusaur
02/09/21 2:31:42 PM
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I am sure Joe Biden will hold them accountable and not just give them a limp slap on the wrists.
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Irony
02/09/21 2:31:46 PM
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Who is this alt

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FantasticAssGas
02/09/21 2:32:23 PM
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Dunno why you compare them to concentration camps, that really shitty tbqh.

Do you think there isn't a problem with illegal immigration in America?
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hockeybub89
02/09/21 2:32:30 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...
Why would I have been against?

Obama had some sense, he wasn't a far leftist.
Concentration camps and gulags are not good ideas.

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Musourenka
02/09/21 2:33:18 PM
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Swap the 72 deportees with the ICE staff responsible.

Otherwise, apply criminal charges to those staff members.

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Mission Abort
02/09/21 2:33:37 PM
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To be fair, the president's orders cannot override the law.

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Zikten
02/09/21 2:33:58 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...
Dunno why you compare them to concentration camps, that really shitty tbqh.

Do you think there isn't a problem with illegal immigration in America?

You clearly don't understand the conditions of those immigration camps. You seem to think they are living in nice conditions
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Orchestrion
02/09/21 2:36:14 PM
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Zikten posted...
You clearly don't understand the conditions of those immigration camps. You seem to think they are living in nice conditions


They obviously dont give a fuck and are just interested in making bad faith arguments so ignore them.

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FantasticAssGas
02/09/21 2:40:01 PM
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Zikten posted...
You clearly don't understand the conditions of those immigration camps. You seem to think they are living in nice conditions

Why did you assume I thought that?
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RedJackson
02/09/21 2:40:13 PM
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Ass kissers of the party of blue - where are you?

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Irony
02/09/21 2:40:39 PM
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RedJackson posted...
Ass kissers of the party of blue - where are you?
Red*

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hockeybub89
02/09/21 2:41:32 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...
Dunno why you compare them to concentration camps, that really shitty tbqh.

Do you think there isn't a problem with illegal immigration in America?
I'm not comparing them to concentration camps. They are concentration camps. The Nazis didn't invent the concept. America had its own version during WW2 for the Japanese Americans. Gas execution chambers are not a required element of a concentration camp.

There are plenty of problems in the world. Doesn't mean we just start tossing undesirables in cages and treat them like dogs. How much historical proof do we need to see how that is awful and easily abused?

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Machete
02/09/21 2:43:05 PM
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Irony posted...
Who is this alt


462, a user who has had around 200 accounts banned
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hockeybub89
02/09/21 2:43:47 PM
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Machete posted...
462, a user who has had around 200 accounts banned
Jesus, that guy?

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Bio1590
02/09/21 2:46:12 PM
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>2021
>Trolls still acting like people weren't against Obama's immigration policies
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Sackgurl
02/09/21 2:50:54 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...
Do you think there isn't a problem with illegal immigration in America?

no i don't

can you prove there is

and specifically that the problem is related to the people coming in and not the way the last administration was processing them

remember, proof involves evidence from sources that are verifiable

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uwnim
02/09/21 2:53:19 PM
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FantasticAssGas posted...
Do you think there isn't a problem with illegal immigration in America?
There is not.

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TheMikh
02/09/21 2:53:34 PM
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teep_ posted...
Isn't this literal treason?

about as treasonous as being instructed to withdraw from syria and lying about doing so

the unelected bureaucratic apparatus has long been out of line

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Sackgurl
02/09/21 2:55:36 PM
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TheMikh posted...
the unelected bureaucratic apparatus has long been out of line

then let's start by imprisoning the director of ICE for the remainder of his natural life

no better way to get those other unruly bureaucrats in line, right?

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Zeeak4444
02/09/21 2:56:06 PM
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Can we just not feed the alt.

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TheMikh
02/09/21 2:58:06 PM
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Sackgurl posted...

i'd argue the entire industrial complex needs to be dismantled

wouldn't be opposed to prosecuting its brass for any crimes they've been complicit in though

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Sackgurl
02/09/21 2:59:21 PM
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TheMikh posted...
i'd argue the entire industrial complex needs to be dismantled

wouldn't be opposed to prosecuting its brass for any crimes they've been complicit in though

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