Current Events > What if January 6th had gone way darker?

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Zikten
02/10/21 2:12:17 PM
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I've been thinking about this for the past month.....say all the worst fears came true. If some politicians had been captured and killed. What would have been different in the aftermath? Would Republicans still defend Trump or would we have seen an immediate universal condemnation of him?

Or would he somehow have been able to use the chaos afterwards to stay in power? I could see it going many different ways.
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ssj3vegeta
02/10/21 2:16:27 PM
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If any of da politicians had gotten hurt, i think trump would have been in BIG trouble along with his stupid stooges. Republican congressmen and women would have definitely convicted him imo, especially if it was Pence who was a huge target dat trump kept blaming
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Funkydog
02/10/21 2:17:10 PM
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It really is some insane luck it didn't go terribly wrong and that their racism caused them to chase the black police officer instead of their intended targets.

That guy is beyond a fucking hero.

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Medussa
02/10/21 2:18:41 PM
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if anyone had died, i think a lot of the country would be burning right now. maybe not out and out civil war, but the protests and counter protests and counter counter protests would likely have been escalating for the last month.

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Panthera
02/10/21 2:18:42 PM
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You would have seen a lot more immediate condemnation of it, followed by pretty much the same response as what we had in reality beyond the first 24 hours or so

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Blue_Target
02/10/21 2:19:15 PM
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Conservatives would still have pointed fingers at somebody else not named Trump

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Zikten
02/10/21 2:43:04 PM
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Funkydog posted...
It really is some insane luck it didn't go terribly wrong and that their racism caused them to chase the black police officer instead of their intended targets.

That guy is beyond a fucking hero.

True. That guy should get a medal
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Smackems
02/10/21 2:43:50 PM
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What

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Heineken14
02/10/21 2:44:29 PM
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Blue_Target posted...
Conservatives would still have pointed fingers at somebody else not named Trump


This. Only difference between it going down the way it did and if it was worse would be how more pathetic and corrupt the GOP are.
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HylianFox
02/10/21 2:45:02 PM
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I still can't get over both how horrible Jan 6 was and yet how much of a fucking joke it was, too.

Like, what if a mass murder of US politicians had taken place rather than some dipshit stealing a podium looking like he just won an Academy Award? It's crazy

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CouldBeAnAlt
02/10/21 2:45:37 PM
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If they'd found pelosi, cortez or pence it would have
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Were_Wyrm
02/10/21 2:46:40 PM
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Zikten posted...
True. That guy should get a medal
He did, and a promotion.

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hockeybub89
02/10/21 2:47:45 PM
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Solid Snake07
02/10/21 2:48:03 PM
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I would imagine civil war would have been the inevitable outcome

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HylianFox
02/10/21 2:48:41 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
I would imagine civil war would have been the inevitable outcome

I'm pretty sure we're heading for another Civil War within the next 10 years no matter what
The right-wing in America has made it perfectly clear that they have no intenion of just "getting along" with everyone else

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ultimate reaver
02/10/21 2:54:08 PM
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if anyone outside of the rioters actually died i think it probably would have had a charlottesville effect where everyone immediately scatters in the aftermath and tries to pretend they didnt take it too far except for the craziest people

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bluezero
02/10/21 2:57:18 PM
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I mean, at the current impeachment trial, we have Senate Republicans who refuse to even watch a video of the Capital insurrection. They're not even interested in acknowledging it, and can't wait to not convict Trump.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/10/21 3:00:49 PM
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HylianFox posted...
I'm pretty sure we're heading for another Civil War within the next 10 years no matter what
The right-wing in America has made it perfectly clear that they have no intenion of just "getting along" with everyone else

Yeah no. Youre not dealing with the powerful eagles theyre claiming to be. There wont even be a battle, nevermind a war.

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HylianFox
02/10/21 3:02:48 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Verbal downplaying and zero accountability from Republicans?

So, pretty much what's happening now

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eston
02/10/21 3:07:40 PM
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I was thinking like what if it went in the other direction instead, and the cops just started shooting people. Things would have gotten really bad if 50 people died instead of 5

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ultimate reaver
02/10/21 3:08:56 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Verbal downplaying and zero accountability from Republicans?

that happened anyway with this, but no. republican politicians continued to make excuses but charlottesville was the big boiling point before this and someone actually stepping up and doing the things republicans online had been making jokes about for a decade actually made them step back and back off from violent discourse for a time

eventually they got back into it and we got this thing but at least with the normal populace the change was palpable. it also fucked up the careers of several big alt-right online figures at the time

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berlyman101
02/10/21 3:09:15 PM
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Every time I watch it my senses tell me that the stormers are about to get slaughtered and it's distressing. Logically I know that wouldn't happen for a number of reasons, and I know the outcome, but knowing that the force was there to be used is chilling.

They backed down as soon as an officer shot someone, of course, and would have much sooner if any had drawn outside the Capitol Building. Animals only respect force and you can see them emboldened each step they take forward.

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monkmith
02/10/21 3:24:31 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
that happened anyway with this, but no. republican politicians continued to make excuses but charlottesville was the big boiling point before this and someone actually stepping up and doing the things republicans online had been making jokes about for a decade actually made them step back and back off from violent discourse for a time

eventually they got back into it and we got this thing but at least with the normal populace the change was palpable. it also fucked up the careers of several big alt-right online figures at the time
the hell it did. they just sort of hid for a bit. then it was right to the victim blaming...

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02/10/21 3:25:42 PM
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We would have internment camps again, just for political views. Maybe even worse, maybe Nazism (Republican wet dream)

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Funkydog
02/10/21 3:27:14 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
He did, and a promotion.
I'd say the man deserves a statue and being on your money myself.

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Solid Snake07
02/10/21 6:40:04 PM
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HylianFox posted...
I'm pretty sure we're heading for another Civil War within the next 10 years no matter what
The right-wing in America has made it perfectly clear that they have no intenion of just "getting along" with everyone else


Eh, most people ain't about that shit. Something would have to happen to totally throw institutions into total disarray

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Cheater87
02/10/21 6:42:44 PM
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Like they brought guns and and shot up the place or bombed it? :( I was thinking about how scary that would be today during the hearings.

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Zikten
02/10/21 6:48:12 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Like they brought guns and and shot up the place or bombed it? :( I was thinking about how scary that would be today during the hearings.

Or executed people using knives. Some of them brought zip ties to capture prisoners and I think knives possibly. I think some of the most insane rioters were planning to do filmed "confessions" from democrats and executions similar to what ISIS would do.
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MrMallard
02/10/21 6:55:55 PM
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I had an idea for an alt called WorstPossibleScenario or something at one point, because I was just kinda like that for a while.

My thoughts on this would probably be:

  • Insurrectionists storm the Capitol building
  • Biden is killed in the clash, creating a power vacuum
  • Trump claims that since there isn't an adequate replacement, he won't cede the position
  • Kamala Harris and other democrats contest this - as VP she'd probably take over the position
  • Trump doubles down on "they stole the election" in the face of Kamala Harris assuming the position of president, playing to his supporters' ignorance and bad faith tendencies to whip them up into a violent fervor, as "no-one voted Kamala Harris for President".
  • More right-wing clashes happen across the country, some of which are enabled by the more right-wing police force (seeing as Capitol security outright let people into the building, this isn't too far of a stretch)
  • Other democratic senators are attacked and/or killed. Moderate conservatives raise objections, a majority of the party goes all in on Trump.
  • Trump stays in power and conducts press around the clock to normalise what he's done.
  • America has fallen to fascism, and the people who have taken positions of power by force will never let go of them again.

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ElatedVenusaur
02/10/21 6:58:59 PM
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I do think it should be obvious they would have killed any VIPs they managed to get their hands on. Hell, they probably would have live-streamed it! They would have been super brutal too. Hard to say how bad that gets, but it would definitely lead to further violence.
As far as if the insurrectionists were treated like a BLM protest and more of them died, right-wing media would absolutely have (gleefully) portrayed it as a massacre of unprecedented brutality and urged patriots to respond in-kind.
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