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Tmaster148 02/12/21 5:26:55 PM #102:	InfinityMonster posted... No, it's not ok. However, none of that precludes his self-defense claim. Just being there with the gun does in no way prove intent nor destroy his self defense claim as written in the law posted already. Especially when there's an entire interview of him minutes before the shooting talking about how why he's here and why he needs the gun. Carrying an illegally owned firearm across state lines isn't a self defense thing. He had no real reason to be there and should have never been there in the first place. You can't justify self defense. The only people who think this is self defense are white supremacists, because they liked the fact he ended up killing certain people. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:950572575] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>InfinityMonster posted... </cite> <quote>No, it's not ok. However, none of that precludes his self-defense claim. Just being there with the gun does in no way prove intent nor destroy his self defense claim as written in the law posted already. Especially when there's an entire interview of him minutes before the shooting talking about how why he's here and why he needs the gun.</quote> Carrying an illegally owned firearm across state lines isn't a self defense thing. He had no real reason to be there and should have never been there in the first place. You can't justify self defense. The only people who think this is self defense are white supremacists, because they liked the fact he ended up killing certain people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfinityMonster 02/12/21 5:28:21 PM #103:	Tmaster148 posted... Carrying an illegally owned firearm across state lines isn't a self defense thing. He had no real reason to be there and should have never been there in the first place. You can't justify self defense. The only people who think this is self defense are white supremacists, because they liked the fact he ended up killing certain people. My dude, there's literally a link earlier in this topic clearly explaining in what cases it would be and this would be it. To imply anybody reading the law correctly is a white supremacist is beyond moronic. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" <cite>InfinityMonster posted [p:950572626] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Carrying an illegally owned firearm across state lines isn't a self defense thing. He had no real reason to be there and should have never been there in the first place. You can't justify self defense. The only people who think this is self defense are white supremacists, because they liked the fact he ended up killing certain people.</quote>My dude, there's literally a link earlier in this topic clearly explaining in what cases it would be and this would be it. To imply anybody reading the law correctly is a white supremacist is beyond moronic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 02/12/21 5:28:49 PM #104:	Tmaster148 posted... The only people who think this is self defense are white supremacists, because they liked the fact he ended up killing certain people. This x1000 --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:950572642] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote> The only people who think this is self defense are white supremacists, because they liked the fact he ended up killing certain people.</quote> This x1000 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Catgirl Fondler 02/12/21 5:29:08 PM #105:	Naysaspace posted... all it'll take is some vigilante who recognizes him on the street, and his life will be irreparably changed. People said the same thing about Zimmerman though, don't know if anything happened to him yet. --- N/A <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:950572657] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Naysaspace posted...</cite> <quote>all it'll take is some vigilante who recognizes him on the street, and his life will be irreparably changed. </quote> People said the same thing about Zimmerman though, don't know if anything happened to him yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/12/21 5:31:11 PM #106:	InfinityMonster posted... My dude, there's literally a link earlier in this topic clearly explaining in what cases it would be and this would be it. To imply anybody reading the law correctly is a white supremacist is beyond moronic. You mean the same law that prohibits self defense claims while engaged in criminal activity such as bring an illegally owned firearm across state lines. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:950572722] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>InfinityMonster posted... </cite> <quote>My dude, there's literally a link earlier in this topic clearly explaining in what cases it would be and this would be it. To imply anybody reading the law correctly is a white supremacist is beyond moronic.</quote> You mean the same law that prohibits self defense claims while engaged in criminal activity such as bring an illegally owned firearm across state lines. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfinityMonster 02/12/21 5:32:07 PM #107:	Bishop9800 posted... This x1000 Tmaster148 posted... You mean the same law that prohibits self defense claims while engaged in criminal activity such as bring an illegally owned firearm across state lines. SMH, I literally already explained this. Go back and reread it. None of what you said is correct. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" <cite>InfinityMonster posted [p:950572749] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Bishop9800 posted... </cite> <quote>This x1000</quote> Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>You mean the same law that prohibits self defense claims while engaged in criminal activity such as bring an illegally owned firearm across state lines.</quote>SMH, I literally already explained this. Go back and reread it. None of what you said is correct. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/12/21 5:32:43 PM #108:	InfinityMonster posted... SMH, I literally already explained this. Go back and reread it. None of what you said is correct. At this point it's pretty obvious why you are defending the kid so much. I'm not going to waste my time with someone who has your beliefs. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:950572769] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>InfinityMonster posted... </cite> <quote>SMH, I literally already explained this. Go back and reread it. None of what you said is correct.</quote> At this point it's pretty obvious why you are defending the kid so much. I'm not going to waste my time with someone who has your beliefs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cerealmilk 02/12/21 5:34:07 PM #109:	Tmaster148 posted... Carrying an illegally owned firearm across state lines isn't a self defense thing. Exactly. The fact that he was carrying an illegally owned firearm and carried it across state lines doesn't waive his right to self defense Tmaster148 posted... He had no real reason to be there and should have never been there in the first place. Neither did anyone else that was there from a legal standpoint. Tmaster148 posted... The only people who think this is self defense are white supremacists, Not true Tmaster148 posted... because they liked the fact he ended up killing certain people. What certain people? <cite>Cerealmilk posted [p:950572811] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Carrying an illegally owned firearm across state lines isn't a self defense thing.</quote> Exactly. The fact that he was carrying an illegally owned firearm and carried it across state lines doesn't waive his right to self defense Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>He had no real reason to be there and should have never been there in the first place.</quote> Neither did anyone else that was there from a legal standpoint. Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>The only people who think this is self defense are white supremacists,</quote> Not true Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>because they liked the fact he ended up killing certain people.</quote> What certain people? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfinityMonster 02/12/21 5:34:27 PM #110:	Tmaster148 posted... At this point it's pretty obvious why you are defending the kid so much. I'm not going to waste my time with someone who has your beliefs. Lol, you're just gonna double down? The law does NOT preclude what you said. Please go back and read it again. Calling me a white supremacist because you're not even reading is not gonna help your case. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" <cite>InfinityMonster posted [p:950572822] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>At this point it's pretty obvious why you are defending the kid so much. I'm not going to waste my time with someone who has your beliefs.</quote>Lol, you're just gonna double down? The law does NOT preclude what you said. Please go back and read it again. Calling me a white supremacist because you're not even reading is not gonna help your case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fan357 02/12/21 5:35:00 PM #111:	They have a different opinion! They must be white supremacists! --- Never forget where you came from. <cite>fan357 posted [p:950572837] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>They have a different opinion! They must be white supremacists! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
badwinkles 02/12/21 5:38:46 PM #112:	didnt he shoot 3 other (white) pedophiles? that were chasing him down? My gosh everything is racist to you morons --- y/n <cite>badwinkles posted [p:950572961] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>didnt he shoot 3 other (white) pedophiles? that were chasing him down? My gosh everything is racist to you morons </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yazarogi 02/12/21 5:46:23 PM #113:	Saying Gaige wasnt using self defense, but Kyle was despite gaige pulling his weapon after Kyle killed two people shows you what kind of bullshit defense people try to use for Kyle. The kids a murderer, deal with it. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:950573204] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Saying Gaige wasnt using self defense, but Kyle was despite gaige pulling his weapon after Kyle killed two people shows you what kind of bullshit defense people try to use for Kyle. The kids a murderer, deal with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 5:55:33 PM #114:	Yazarogi posted... Saying Gaige wasnt using self defense, but Kyle was despite gaige pulling his weapon after Kyle killed two people shows you what kind of bullshit defense people try to use for Kyle. The kids a murderer, deal with it. Gaige was trying to stop Kyle from fleeing. Thats hardly self defense. He was doing what he thought was right, but didn't know the situation. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950573476] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Yazarogi posted... </cite> <quote>Saying Gaige wasnt using self defense, but Kyle was despite gaige pulling his weapon after Kyle killed two people shows you what kind of bullshit defense people try to use for Kyle. The kids a murderer, deal with it.</quote>Gaige was trying to stop Kyle from fleeing. Thats hardly self defense. He was doing what he thought was right, but didn't know the situation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 5:57:10 PM #115:	Tmaster148 posted... Carrying an illegally owned firearm across state lines isn't a self defense thing. He had no real reason to be there and should have never been there in the first place. You can't justify self defense. The only people who think this is self defense are white supremacists, because they liked the fact he ended up killing certain people. I'm far as hell from a white supremacist and consider this a tragedy, but it was still self defense. He had as much right to be there as much as anyone else involved, and the misdemeanor of carrying the gun while underage doesn't remove his right to self defense. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950573530] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Carrying an illegally owned firearm across state lines isn't a self defense thing. He had no real reason to be there and should have never been there in the first place. You can't justify self defense. The only people who think this is self defense are white supremacists, because they liked the fact he ended up killing certain people.</quote>I'm far as hell from a white supremacist and consider this a tragedy, but it was still self defense. He had as much right to be there as much as anyone else involved, and the misdemeanor of carrying the gun while underage doesn't remove his right to self defense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/12/21 6:01:00 PM #116:	RadiantJoyrock posted... I'm far as hell from a white supremacist and consider this a tragedy, but it was still self defense. He had as much right to be there as much as anyone else involved, and the misdemeanor of carrying the gun while underage doesn't remove his right to self defense. So if someone enters property without permission and the owners point a gun at them the person breaking and entering the property is now legally allowed to shoot the property owner's out of self defense. Being somewhere you don't belong while committing a crime is not valid for self defense. Which is exactly what this fuckwad did. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:950573658] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>I'm far as hell from a white supremacist and consider this a tragedy, but it was still self defense. He had as much right to be there as much as anyone else involved, and the misdemeanor of carrying the gun while underage doesn't remove his right to self defense.</quote> So if someone enters property without permission and the owners point a gun at them the person breaking and entering the property is now legally allowed to shoot the property owner's out of self defense. Being somewhere you don't belong while committing a crime is not valid for self defense. Which is exactly what this fuckwad did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 6:04:50 PM #117:	Tmaster148 posted... So if someone enters property without permission and the owners point a gun at them the person breaking and entering the property is now legally allowed to shoot the property owner's out of self defense. Being somewhere you don't belong while committing a crime is not valid for self defense. Which is exactly what this fuckwad did. Again, he had as much roght to be there as anyone else. He wasn't trespassing. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950573763] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>So if someone enters property without permission and the owners point a gun at them the person breaking and entering the property is now legally allowed to shoot the property owner's out of self defense. Being somewhere you don't belong while committing a crime is not valid for self defense. Which is exactly what this fuckwad did.</quote>Again, he had as much roght to be there as anyone else. He wasn't trespassing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 02/12/21 6:06:50 PM #119:	RadiantJoyrock posted... Again, he had as much roght to be there as anyone else. He wasn't trespassing. Not with his illegally owned firearm. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:950573827] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>Again, he had as much roght to be there as anyone else. He wasn't trespassing.</quote> Not with his illegally owned firearm. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 6:08:18 PM #120:	Tmaster148 posted... Not with his illegally owned firearm. That's a misdemeanor. It does t remove his right to self defense. Him being underage does not remove his right to defend himself from people pursuing and attacking him. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950573872] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Not with his illegally owned firearm.</quote>That's a misdemeanor. It does t remove his right to self defense. Him being underage does not remove his right to defend himself from people pursuing and attacking him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mybbqrules 02/12/21 6:09:25 PM #121:	Zikten posted... He's the kid that shot 3 people, 2 died at a Black Lives Matter protest. He claims it was self defense but witnesses say he was antagonistic to the victims before the fight. And lately he's been hanging out in bars with white supremacists Also, he traveled 45 minutes one way to reach the location of the protests, with an illegally obtained weapon that wasn't even his. I'm still wondering how it's self defense when he traveled one way 45 minutes to another state to defend property that he didn't have a connection to in any way. --- Twice impeached, one-term President Donald J. Trump: Officially the worst president in American history after his seditious, traitorous acts on Jan 6, 2021. <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:950573905] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>He's the kid that shot 3 people, 2 died at a Black Lives Matter protest. He claims it was self defense but witnesses say he was antagonistic to the victims before the fight. And lately he's been hanging out in bars with white supremacists</quote>Also, he traveled 45 minutes one way to reach the location of the protests, with an illegally obtained weapon that wasn't even his. I'm still wondering how it's self defense when he traveled one way 45 minutes to another state to defend property that he didn't have a connection to in any way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/12/21 6:09:29 PM #122:	RadiantJoyrock posted... That's a misdemeanor. It does t remove his right to self defense. Him being underage does not remove his right to defend himself from people pursuing and attacking him. Nothing says self defense like a kid with an illegal weapon crossing state lines to cause shit. Fuck off dude. You want to defend white supremacist go ahead. Just be real with yourself for once about why you are so okay with this kid killing people. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:950573912] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>That's a misdemeanor. It does t remove his right to self defense. Him being underage does not remove his right to defend himself from people pursuing and attacking him.</quote> Nothing says self defense like a kid with an illegal weapon crossing state lines to cause shit. Fuck off dude. You want to defend white supremacist go ahead. Just be real with yourself for once about why you are so okay with this kid killing people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfinityMonster 02/12/21 6:10:11 PM #123:	Tmaster148 posted... So if someone enters property without permission and the owners point a gun at them the person breaking and entering the property is now legally allowed to shoot the property owner's out of self defense. Being somewhere you don't belong while committing a crime is not valid for self defense. Which is exactly what this fuckwad did. Tmaster148 posted... Not with his illegally owned firearm. Why are you making up laws now? None of that is part of the actual law. It's like some of you guys want these laws to be extremely fucked up, which is really weird. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" <cite>InfinityMonster posted [p:950573937] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>So if someone enters property without permission and the owners point a gun at them the person breaking and entering the property is now legally allowed to shoot the property owner's out of self defense. Being somewhere you don't belong while committing a crime is not valid for self defense. Which is exactly what this fuckwad did.</quote> Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Not with his illegally owned firearm.</quote>Why are you making up laws now? None of that is part of the actual law. It's like some of you guys want these laws to be extremely fucked up, which is really weird. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mybbqrules 02/12/21 6:12:15 PM #125:	RadiantJoyrock posted... He had as much right to be there as much as anyone else involved. Bullshit. Next time there is civil unrest walk out to the cop's line strapped with an AR and tell them you're there to help. If they're cops with any kind of common sense they'll tell you to go the fuck home. --- Twice impeached, one-term President Donald J. Trump: Officially the worst president in American history after his seditious, traitorous acts on Jan 6, 2021. <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:950574006] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>He had as much right to be there as much as anyone else involved.</quote>Bullshit. Next time there is civil unrest walk out to the cop's line strapped with an AR and tell them you're there to help. If they're cops with any kind of common sense they'll tell you to go the fuck home. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/12/21 6:12:17 PM #126:	InfinityMonster posted... Why are you making up laws now? None of that is part of the actual law. It's like some of you guys want these laws to be extremely fucked up, which is really weird. I guess everyone should own illegal weapions and kill people they don't like in other states in the name of self defense now. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:950574008] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>InfinityMonster posted... </cite> <quote>Why are you making up laws now? None of that is part of the actual law. It's like some of you guys want these laws to be extremely fucked up, which is really weird.</quote> I guess everyone should own illegal weapions and kill people they don't like in other states in the name of self defense now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfinityMonster 02/12/21 6:13:00 PM #127:	Tmaster148 posted... I guess everyone should own illegal weapions and kill people they don't like in other states in the name of self defense now. This is getting embarrassing dude. Just take the L. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" <cite>InfinityMonster posted [p:950574030] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>I guess everyone should own illegal weapions and kill people they don't like in other states in the name of self defense now.</quote>This is getting embarrassing dude. Just take the L. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/12/21 6:13:33 PM #128:	InfinityMonster posted... This is getting embarrassing dude. Just take the L. This is the anarchy world you want because you need to defend racists. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:950574046] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>InfinityMonster posted... </cite> <quote>This is getting embarrassing dude. Just take the L.</quote> This is the anarchy world you want because you need to defend racists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Collat 02/12/21 6:14:20 PM #129:	BeyondWalls posted... Eh... the guy Rittenhouse shot also carried a firearm across state lines. That means fuck all in a murder case. Neither does one of them being a pedo. If you shoot into a crowd there is a non-zero chance you could hit a pedophile or a murderer. It doesn't make you a hero if it happens on accident. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Well he sure likes defending them. <cite>Collat posted [p:950574073] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>Eh... the guy Rittenhouse shot also carried a firearm across state lines.</quote>That means fuck all in a murder case. Neither does one of them being a pedo. If you shoot into a crowd there is a non-zero chance you could hit a pedophile or a murderer. It doesn't make you a hero if it happens on accident. <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Well he sure likes defending them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 6:19:26 PM #130:	Tmaster148 posted... Nothing says self defense like a kid with an illegal weapon crossing state lines to cause shit. Fuck off dude. You want to defend white supremacist go ahead. Just be real with yourself for once about why you are so okay with this kid killing people. Pretty sure I said it wasn't ok, in fact pretty sure I called it a tragedy, but that doesn't mean it isn't self defense. Tmaster148 posted... I guess everyone should own illegal weapions and kill people they don't like in other states in the name of self defense now. If you had an illegal weapon and you shot someone who chased you down repeatedly, threatened you, and then grabbed your weapon, I would support self defense for you too. The fact is all reports of the situation suggest tried to flee rather than fight, and only opened fire when he had no other option, and Any reasonable person in his situation would feel threatened enough to do the same. The kid is a prick, but his actions in the situation show self defense, and these arguments you're making as to why it isnt would get you laughed out of a courtroom because they violate his constitutional rights. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950574258] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Nothing says self defense like a kid with an illegal weapon crossing state lines to cause shit. Fuck off dude. You want to defend white supremacist go ahead. Just be real with yourself for once about why you are so okay with this kid killing people.</quote>Pretty sure I said it wasn't ok, in fact pretty sure I called it a tragedy, but that doesn't mean it isn't self defense. Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>I guess everyone should own illegal weapions and kill people they don't like in other states in the name of self defense now.</quote>If you had an illegal weapon and you shot someone who chased you down repeatedly, threatened you, and then grabbed your weapon, I would support self defense for you too. The fact is all reports of the situation suggest tried to flee rather than fight, and only opened fire when he had no other option, and Any reasonable person in his situation would feel threatened enough to do the same. The kid is a prick, but his actions in the situation show self defense, and these arguments you're making as to why it isnt would get you laughed out of a courtroom because they violate his constitutional rights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yazarogi 02/12/21 6:20:23 PM #131:	RadiantJoyrock posted... Pretty sure I said it wasn't ok, in fact pretty sure I called it a tragedy, but that doesn't mean it isn't self defense. If you had an illegal weapon and you shot someone who chased you down repeatedly, threatened you, and then grabbed your weapon, I would support self defense for you too. The fact is all reports of the situation suggest tried to flee rather than fight, and only opened fire when he had no other option, and Any reasonable person in his situation would feel threatened enough to do the same. The kid is a prick, but his actions in the situation show self defense, and these arguments you're making as to why it isnt would get you laughed out of a courtroom because they violate his constitutional rights. He wanted the opportunity to kill, otherwise he wouldn't be there. Premeditation. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:950574289] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>Pretty sure I said it wasn't ok, in fact pretty sure I called it a tragedy, but that doesn't mean it isn't self defense. If you had an illegal weapon and you shot someone who chased you down repeatedly, threatened you, and then grabbed your weapon, I would support self defense for you too. The fact is all reports of the situation suggest tried to flee rather than fight, and only opened fire when he had no other option, and Any reasonable person in his situation would feel threatened enough to do the same. The kid is a prick, but his actions in the situation show self defense, and these arguments you're making as to why it isnt would get you laughed out of a courtroom because they violate his constitutional rights.</quote> He wanted the opportunity to kill, otherwise he wouldn't be there. Premeditation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 6:22:55 PM #132:	Collat posted... If you shoot into a crowd there is a non-zero chance you could hit a pedophile or a murderer. It doesn't make you a hero if it happens on accident. He never shot into a crowd. He shot three specific people who were direct threats to him. Collat posted... Well he sure likes defending them. Maybe I dont agree with ignoring the facts of the case to condemn someone just because they're a piece of shit? That doesn't sound like justice to me. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950574389] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Collat posted... </cite> <quote>If you shoot into a crowd there is a non-zero chance you could hit a pedophile or a murderer. It doesn't make you a hero if it happens on accident.</quote>He never shot into a crowd. He shot three specific people who were direct threats to him. Collat posted... </cite> <quote>Well he sure likes defending them.</quote>Maybe I dont agree with ignoring the facts of the case to condemn someone just because they're a piece of shit? That doesn't sound like justice to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 02/12/21 6:22:58 PM #133:	InfinityMonster posted... You've also brought up the state lines thing several times. Like, the motherf*er lives on the state line. He can walk to WI. The distance between his place and Kenosha is less than traveling between the 5 boroughs of NYC or different from crossing state lines going from Manhattan to New Jersey. Yeah I don't understand the argument of interstate crossing. I am sure people where he lives commute to Kenosha for work --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:950574391] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>InfinityMonster posted... </cite> <quote>You've also brought up the state lines thing several times. Like, the motherf*er lives on the state line. He can walk to WI. The distance between his place and Kenosha is less than traveling between the 5 boroughs of NYC or different from crossing state lines going from Manhattan to New Jersey.</quote>Yeah I don't understand the argument of interstate crossing. I am sure people where he lives commute to Kenosha for work </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 6:25:07 PM #134:	Yazarogi posted... He wanted the opportunity to kill, otherwise he wouldn't be there. Premeditation. Evidence he wanted to kill someone? Simply being there is not premeditation, he had as much constitutional right to be there as anyone else. If you had some evidence actually showing intent, it would be different. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950574462] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Yazarogi posted... </cite> <quote>He wanted the opportunity to kill, otherwise he wouldn't be there. Premeditation.</quote>Evidence he wanted to kill someone? Simply being there is not premeditation, he had as much constitutional right to be there as anyone else. If you had some evidence actually showing intent, it would be different. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 6:25:45 PM #135:	Dathrowed1 posted... Yeah I don't understand the argument of interstate crossing. I am sure people where he lives commute to Kenosha for work That and the continued misconception that he brought the weapon across state lines. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950574490] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah I don't understand the argument of interstate crossing. I am sure people where he lives commute to Kenosha for work</quote>That and the continued misconception that he brought the weapon across state lines. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 02/12/21 6:27:24 PM #136:	Intent is the hardest thing to prove in court without a confession. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:950574550] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Intent is the hardest thing to prove in court without a confession. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 02/12/21 6:36:51 PM #137:	I have said this before and will say it again. That confirmed crackhead will make George Zimmerman look like Saint Peter. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. <cite>brestugo posted [p:950574835] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>I have said this before and will say it again. That confirmed crackhead will make George Zimmerman look like Saint Peter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Collat 02/12/21 6:37:25 PM #138:	RadiantJoyrock posted... He never shot into a crowd. He shot three specific people who were direct threats to him. Instigating a fight with someone so you can kill them is not self defense. People bring up the character of the people he shot as if it justifies what he did, but he had no way of knowing any of that. Hence, it's just like shooting into a crowd. In this case he just happened to piss off the crowd first. Maybe I dont agree with ignoring the facts of the case to condemn someone just because they're a piece of shit? That doesn't sound like justice to me. "Facts" <cite>Collat posted [p:950574853] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>He never shot into a crowd. He shot three specific people who were direct threats to him.</quote> Instigating a fight with someone so you can kill them is not self defense. People bring up the character of the people he shot as if it justifies what he did, but he had no way of knowing any of that. Hence, it's just like shooting into a crowd. In this case he just happened to piss off the crowd first. <quote>Maybe I dont agree with ignoring the facts of the case to condemn someone just because they're a piece of shit? That doesn't sound like justice to me.</quote>"Facts" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Collat 02/12/21 6:40:55 PM #139:	RadiantJoyrock posted... Evidence he wanted to kill someone? Simply being there is not premeditation, Bringing an assault rifle is a red flag. he had as much constitutional right to be there as anyone else. Being there isn't the problem. Showing up to kill people is. That has nothing to do with the constitution. <cite>Collat posted [p:950574960] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>Evidence he wanted to kill someone? Simply being there is not premeditation,</quote> Bringing an assault rifle is a red flag. <quote>he had as much constitutional right to be there as anyone else.</quote> Being there isn't the problem. Showing up to kill people is. That has nothing to do with the constitution. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 02/12/21 6:42:02 PM #140:	Collat posted... People bring up the character of the people he shot as if it justifies what he did, but he had no way of knowing any of that. Well, that's not true. He interacted with Rosenbaum for awhile. So he knew his character the minute Rosenbaum started trying to push a flaming dumpster into a police barricade. You mean Rittenhouse didn't know their criminal history, which is true. But character is something different. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:950574997] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Collat posted... </cite> <quote>People bring up the character of the people he shot as if it justifies what he did, but he had no way of knowing any of that.</quote>Well, that's not true. He interacted with Rosenbaum for awhile. So he knew his character the minute Rosenbaum started trying to push a flaming dumpster into a police barricade. You mean Rittenhouse didn't know their criminal history, which is true. But character is something different. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 02/12/21 6:43:07 PM #141:	RadiantJoyrock posted... Evidence he wanted to kill someone? Simply being there is not premeditation, he had as much constitutional right to be there as anyone else. If you had some evidence actually showing intent, it would be different. Illegally having a gun in his possession, standing at a BLM rally like a little right-wing dipshit and trolling people to instigate arguments. He wasn't there in good faith, and he killed three people. Even if it was in good faith, he needs to face the justice system. By circumventing the legal system, it only confirms that he was there to be an agitator and that he doesn't feel bad about what he did. --- I can feel it in my bones, I'm gonna spend another year alone. Now Playing: Persona 5, Minecraft <cite>MrMallard posted [p:950575025] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>Evidence he wanted to kill someone? Simply being there is not premeditation, he had as much constitutional right to be there as anyone else. If you had some evidence actually showing intent, it would be different.</quote>Illegally having a gun in his possession, standing at a BLM rally like a little right-wing dipshit and trolling people to instigate arguments. He wasn't there in good faith, and he killed three people. Even if it was in good faith, he needs to face the justice system. By circumventing the legal system, it only confirms that he was there to be an agitator and that he doesn't feel bad about what he did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 02/12/21 6:43:40 PM #142:	Collat posted... Bringing an assult rifle is a red flag. But there were LOTS of other people there with assault rifles. Rittenhouse wasn't alone in that. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:950575045] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Collat posted... </cite> <quote>Bringing an assult rifle is a red flag.</quote>But there were LOTS of other people there with assault rifles. Rittenhouse wasn't alone in that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 6:47:15 PM #143:	Collat posted... Instigating a fight with someone so you can kill them is not self defense. Kinda hard to say he instigated when evidence shows he tried to leave. Collat posted... Bringing an assult rifle is a red flag. Second amendment says otherwise. Collat posted... Being there isn't the problem. Showing up to kill people is. That has nothing to do with the constitution. Even if he showed up there to kill people, which you've shown zero evidence for, all reports show him retreating and trying to avoid a fight. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950575155] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Collat posted... </cite> <quote>Instigating a fight with someone so you can kill them is not self defense.</quote>Kinda hard to say he instigated when evidence shows he tried to leave. Collat posted... </cite> <quote>Bringing an assult rifle is a red flag.</quote>Second amendment says otherwise. Collat posted... </cite> <quote>Being there isn't the problem. Showing up to kill people is. That has nothing to do with the constitution.</quote>Even if he showed up there to kill people, which you've shown zero evidence for, all reports show him retreating and trying to avoid a fight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Collat 02/12/21 6:53:51 PM #144:	BeyondWalls posted... But there were LOTS of other people there with assault rifles. Rittenhouse wasn't alone in that. Like I said. That does not fucking mater. You people bring up the most irrelevant shit to defend this pudgy little bitch. RadiantJoyrock posted... Second amendment says otherwise. Too young to be carrying, but the intent remains all the same. BeyondWalls posted... Well, that's not true. He interacted with Rosenbaum for awhile. So he knew his character the minute Rosenbaum started trying to push a flaming dumpster into a police barricade. You mean Rittenhouse didn't know their criminal history, which is true. But character is something different. The criminal history is what people bring up and that's what he didn't know. But I double checked to see if he knew of him and wouldn't you know, on the very first link: Additionally, no proof existed to confirm or deny whether Rittenhouse knew of Huber, Rosenbaum, or Grosskreutz or their criminal histories before he was captured in video footage patrolling the protest with the rifle. You get an L on this one. <cite>Collat posted [p:950575344] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>But there were LOTS of other people there with assault rifles. Rittenhouse wasn't alone in that.</quote>Like I said. That does not fucking mater. You people bring up the most irrelevant shit to defend this pudgy little bitch. RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>Second amendment says otherwise.</quote> Too young to be carrying, but the intent remains all the same. BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>Well, that's not true. He interacted with Rosenbaum for awhile. So he knew his character the minute Rosenbaum started trying to push a flaming dumpster into a police barricade. You mean Rittenhouse didn't know their criminal history, which is true. But character is something different.</quote>The criminal history is what people bring up and that's what he didn't know. But I double checked to see if he knew of him and wouldn't you know, on the very first link: <quote>Additionally, no proof existed to confirm or deny whether Rittenhouse knew of Huber, Rosenbaum, or Grosskreutz or their criminal histories before he was captured in video footage patrolling the protest with the rifle.</quote>You get an L on this one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 02/12/21 6:54:10 PM #145:	ah, the darling of the racist alt right trumpians such heros --- https://imgur.com/LAvnefi <cite>E32005 posted [p:950575354] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>ah, the darling of the racist alt right trumpians such heros </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 6:57:28 PM #146:	Collat posted... Too young to be carrying, but the intent remains all the same. Nope. Claiming that carrying a gun is intent for violence is a direct violation of the second amend.ent, him being underage doesn't change that. Collat posted... That does not f*ing mater. They're people doing the exact same thing you claim shows intent for violence. I'd say it matters. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950575474] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Collat posted... </cite> <quote>Too young to be carrying, but the intent remains all the same.</quote>Nope. Claiming that carrying a gun is intent for violence is a direct violation of the second amend.ent, him being underage doesn't change that. Collat posted... </cite> <quote>That does not f*ing mater.</quote>They're people doing the exact same thing you claim shows intent for violence. I'd say it matters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Collat 02/12/21 7:03:31 PM #147:	RadiantJoyrock posted... Claiming that carrying a gun is intent for violence is a direct violation of the second amend. No it isn't. RadiantJoyrock posted... They're people doing the exact same thing you claim shows intent for violence. I'd say it matters. Nobody is defending the rioters, so whether they had guns or not is irrelevant. They could arrest them too for all anybody cares. <cite>Collat posted [p:950575651] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>Claiming that carrying a gun is intent for violence is a direct violation of the second amend.</quote>No it isn't. RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>They're people doing the exact same thing you claim shows intent for violence. I'd say it matters.</quote>Nobody is defending the rioters, so whether they had guns or not is irrelevant. They could arrest them too for all anybody cares. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 7:14:58 PM #148:	Collat posted... No it isn't. It is. Sorry kid. Collat posted... Nobody is defending the rioters, so weather they had guns or not is irrelevant. They could arrest them too for all anybody cares. But you're claiming taking guns is intent to cause harm in a situation where dozens of people took guns and didn't cause any harm. Seems like a pretty glaring issue in your argument. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950576037] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Collat posted... </cite> <quote>No it isn't.</quote>It is. Sorry kid. Collat posted... </cite> <quote>Nobody is defending the rioters, so weather they had guns or not is irrelevant. They could arrest them too for all anybody cares.</quote>But you're claiming taking guns is intent to cause harm in a situation where dozens of people took guns and didn't cause any harm. Seems like a pretty glaring issue in your argument. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Collat 02/12/21 7:25:12 PM #149:	RadiantJoyrock posted... It is. Sorry kid. Bringing an assault riffle into a hostile environment like that means you are intending to use it. He had no property to protect and wasn't in danger until he put himself in danger. Saying so is not a violation of anything, it's just common sense. RadiantJoyrock posted... But you're claiming taking guns is intent to cause harm in a situation where dozens of people took guns and didn't cause any harm. Seems like a pretty glaring issue in your argument. You know what I mean. You are just being disingenuous as fuck. Like usual, the difference here is one side defends their worst, while the other lets them face consequences. <cite>Collat posted [p:950576365] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>It is. Sorry kid.</quote>Bringing an assault riffle into a hostile environment like that means you are intending to use it. He had no property to protect and wasn't in danger until he put himself in danger. Saying so is not a violation of anything, it's just common sense. RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>But you're claiming taking guns is intent to cause harm in a situation where dozens of people took guns and didn't cause any harm. Seems like a pretty glaring issue in your argument.</quote>You know what I mean. You are just being disingenuous as fuck. Like usual, the difference here is one side defends their worst, while the other lets them face consequences. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 02/12/21 7:28:44 PM #150:	Collat posted... Bringing an assault riffle into a hostile environment like that means you are intending to use it. <citation needed> Collat posted... Like usual, the difference here is one side defends their worst, while the other lets them face consequences. Where did I say I was against him facing trial? <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:950576474] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>Collat posted... </cite> <quote>Bringing an assault riffle into a hostile environment like that means you are intending to use it.</quote><citation needed> Collat posted... </cite> <quote>Like usual, the difference here is one side defends their worst, while the other lets them face consequences.</quote>Where did I say I was against him facing trial? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Collat 02/12/21 7:35:36 PM #151:	RadiantJoyrock posted... citation needed Why else would he need it? To show everyone his cool gun? We already ruled out defending property and self defense. RadiantJoyrock posted... Where did I say I was against him facing trial? Well that depends on if he's found guilty or not in your case. <cite>Collat posted [p:950576667] in So Kyle Ri... [t:79290639]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>citation needed</quote>Why else would he need it? To show everyone his cool gun? We already ruled out defending property and self defense. RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>Where did I say I was against him facing trial?</quote>Well that depends on if he's found guilty or not in your case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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