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Cheater87
02/12/21 3:24:02 PM
#51:


I'm more of a dub guy myself.

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MorganTJ
02/12/21 3:26:35 PM
#52:


For what its worth, quite a few more people were okay with Nozawas voice for Goku Black, probably because at that point a lot more people were watching Super in sub before the Dub released.
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InhumaneRaider
02/12/21 3:28:22 PM
#54:


Veggeta X posted...
In this comparison, DB Kid Goku doesn't sound like DBZ Adult Goku either.
He doesn't, but he doesn't sound much older than 12. Masako still makes the relatively watchable sub, unbearable.

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KStateKing17
02/12/21 3:29:20 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Furthermore, the actress gives him an accent and speaking patterns which identifies him as basically an unintentionally rude country bumpkin from a specific part of the country. He's a silly redneck regional man-boy, and that's the Goku that the audience he was intended for fell in love with.

The English dubs don't really bother trying to capture anything like that, because they aren't really interested in the innate humor of the character and, perhaps accurately, don't think that such a character would be popular with their intended audience.
That has more to do with the script which is a different argument than preference over his voice.

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InhumaneRaider
02/12/21 3:29:47 PM
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LivingLegend posted...
Saying you fall in love with whatever you watched first is stupid.

Thats like saying if you grew up eating shit sandwiches then you wont appreciate a good meal when you finally get one.
This. I watched AOT sub first on Netflix, and then I watched the Dub and I can't get over how well it's done, compared to other subs.

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Chicken
02/12/21 3:31:39 PM
#57:


I like sub Goku and I think Abridged Gokus voice is a nice middle ground.

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Veggeta X
02/12/21 3:47:28 PM
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EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
As always, I am open to being corrected. What about my observations are incorrect?
I've already detailed what I meant. If you still don't understand then it's on you.

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EnvoyOfTheLight
02/12/21 3:58:33 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
I've already detailed what I meant. If you still don't understand then it's on you.

Yes, I read that, and then explained why it didn't make sense.

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LightHawKnight
02/12/21 3:59:50 PM
#60:


Started with the dub, and while I do like subs I can not stand grandma goku.

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Veggeta X
02/12/21 4:00:08 PM
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And that's on you. Don't try to make that on me. We've went through this a dozen times but hey I'm okay with you thinking it's my fault you don't understand. I've been okay with a lot worst at me on this websight.

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LostForest
02/12/21 4:05:23 PM
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I speak Japanese but will always take a dub over a sub. I find subtitles distracting, even English ones.

I get the idea of preference, but I will say I find it really disgusting how the sub crowd absolutely shits all over everything dub-related. There's a shit ton of effort and work involved in translating, localizing, scriptwriting, and then voice acting for dubs, all done by people who are really talented. Writing it all off and belittling all these peoples' work is downright shitty and ignorant.
(Though that said if you're just one of those people who says "I prefer subs because I just do" then I got no problem with that.)

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Chicken
02/12/21 5:00:14 PM
#64:


LivingLegend posted...
It would make sense if all Saiyans had prepubescent voices but Nappa and Vegeta both had deeper man voices so it doesnt make any sense why Goku is voiced by a old lady.
Because all humans sound exactly the same.

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Veggeta X
02/12/21 5:06:01 PM
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It's an Anime trope to have the main character sound like a child as I stated. Have you only watched DBZ?

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EnvoyOfTheLight
02/12/21 6:30:09 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
And that's on you. Don't try to make that on me. We've went through this a dozen times but hey I'm okay with you thinking it's my fault you don't understand. I've been okay with a lot worst at me on this websight.

It's not on me, as I can and have explained why you are wrong.

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Da_fureekusu
02/12/21 6:41:21 PM
#68:


The people that don't like sub Goku are the entitled man children that take the show way too seriously and don't realize its a show aimed at Japanese little boys.

As someone learning Japanese, I find the way Goku talks in Japanese hilarious. Especially when he often refers to his son as Yatsu (or that guy) lol.
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RenescoStCewl
02/12/21 6:56:09 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
It's an Anime trope to have the main character sound like a child as I stated. Have you only watched DBZ?
This doesn't mean people have to like it. I can't get through one episode of the sub. I never would have watched it as a kid if goku had a old womans voice. I don't have any problem with people liking it though.

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Tyranthraxus
02/12/21 7:01:37 PM
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Genshin Impact has brought out the weeb sub supremacists for what they really are with the Japanese VAs being roughly equal with the English VAs in popularity completely overlooking that they are both dubs.

Every so often some weeb comes out and posts about some mistranslation in english, Kanji included and everything and then someone counters with the original Chinese and shows that it was, in fact, translated to English properly.

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ssjevot
02/12/21 7:06:58 PM
#71:


I don't think I have ever heard anyone complain about Goku's voice here. To me if is iconic, and my understanding is English went through multiple VAs.

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Jabodie
02/12/21 7:07:45 PM
#72:


Yeah I've heard this since I got on the internet tbh

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Back_Stabbath
02/12/21 7:08:38 PM
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cmon lads, all dubs have their moments, let us rejoice and appreciate diversity.

Even the Big Green dub, what a masterpiece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tum1P5jm_so

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refmon
02/12/21 7:12:29 PM
#74:


RenescoStCewl posted...
I never would have watched it as a kid if goku had a old womans voice


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Veggeta X
02/12/21 7:25:26 PM
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RenescoStCewl posted...
This doesn't mean people have to like it. I can't get through one episode of the sub. I never would have watched it as a kid if goku had a old womans voice. I don't have any problem with people liking it though.
My question then is did you hate all the other Anime same that had the same trope?

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The Popo
02/12/21 7:27:12 PM
#76:


Not sure how many people will actually read this 70+ posts into the topic, but this was my experience...

I started watching DBZ in 1999 on Toonami. The first episode I saw was form 3 Freeza blasting away at Piccolo. I became hooked and watched it through the rest of the Freeza saga, until they started looping the Funimation episodes again, back to Goku standing over Recoomes (censored) ass.

In the meantime, Id been reading up on DBZ and downloading clips that had no context to me (Gohan going SSJ2, scenes from movies that I didnt know were movies, etc). I knew about the Cell & Buu sagas and really wanted to see them, so me and two friends chipped in to buy a bunch of CDs with most of the subbed episodes in RealPlayer files.

Those episodes also started at Goku standing over Recoomes (uncensored) ass, and when he first yelled at Baata & Jeice to leave, we all sorta said Whats up with his voice? But within a few episodes, we were used to it.

Today, I prefer Gokus Japanese voice to the English. I think Schemmel has greatly improved since the early days, and hes good at voicing Goku in Kai & Super, but theres something to be said about the direction that the character is portrayed. In the Japanese version, hes a free spirited innocent guy who will loves fighting. In the English version, hes more of a righteous protector who loves to fight, but seemingly loved being the good guy even more.

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LightningAce11
02/12/21 7:29:29 PM
#77:


Japanese Goku fits him really well, he's never changed beyond that dumb little kid who loves to fight and eat.
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NatsuSama
02/12/21 7:35:45 PM
#78:


Why does it bother people are not drooling over Gokus sub voice? Accept not everyone is going to love it.

@Veggeta_X

The religious like devotion to DragonBall or sub voice acting I have always found, strange....

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RenescoStCewl
02/12/21 7:42:24 PM
#79:


Veggeta X posted...
My question then is did you hate all the other Anime same that had the same trope?
I haven't seen any but I can definitely say I would annoy me just as much. I did watch the dub first and pretty much only watch dubs.

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Heartomaton
02/12/21 7:44:27 PM
#80:


Watch what you prefer. Don't be a cock about it.

Basic common sense.

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CelestialVoices
02/12/21 7:45:00 PM
#81:


The only way an American would have found the Japanese dub is... Hell.. I dont even know where an American would obtain Japanese dubs from... eBay?

yup, we got ours on ebay waaaay back in the day (like year 2000). wish i still had them
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Veggeta X
02/12/21 7:46:35 PM
#82:


RenescoStCewl posted...
I haven't seen any but I can definitely say I would annoy me just as much. I did watch the dub first and pretty much only watch dubs.
Thank you.

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ssjevot
02/12/21 7:46:35 PM
#83:


Jabodie posted...
Yeah I've heard this since I got on the internet tbh

By here I mean Japan. I never hear Japanese people complain about Goku's voice. I get people are used to the English dub, but like I said my understanding is they changed actors many time. Whereas the Japanese voice is iconic.

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Veggeta X
02/12/21 7:47:34 PM
#84:


NatsuSama posted...
Why does it bother people are not drooling over Gokus sub voice? Accept not everyone is going to love it.

@Veggeta_X

The religious like devotion to DragonBall or sub voice action I have always found, strange....
The obsession with DB goes further than just the voice acting.

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The Popo
02/12/21 7:50:18 PM
#85:


LivingLegend posted...
The only way an American would have found the Japanese dub is... Hell.. I dont even know where an American would obtain Japanese dubs from... eBay?

Yep

The Popo posted...
me and two friends chipped in to buy a bunch of CDs with most of the subbed episodes in RealPlayer files.


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NatsuSama
02/12/21 7:54:39 PM
#86:


Veggeta X posted...
The obsession with DB goes further than just the voice acting.
My point stands.

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The Popo
02/12/21 8:00:09 PM
#88:


LivingLegend posted...
Imagine if Gokus English voice actor didnt change from DB to DBZ and he sounded exactly like Kid Gohan.

Until Kai, Kid Gohan sounded like a teenager who smoked 3 packs a day.

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Veggeta X
02/12/21 8:04:05 PM
#89:


NatsuSama posted...
My point stands.
The Subs vs Dubs debate has been going on forever now and extends further than DB and Anime. It goes as far as video games as well. And Both Sides can be pretty terrible.

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Veggeta X
02/12/21 8:05:00 PM
#90:


The Popo posted...
Until Kai, Kid Gohan sounded like a teenager who smoked 3 packs a day.
Chris Sabat's Vegeta sounded like he smokes 100 packs a day but dub lovers are able to tolerate that because that's what they started with.

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Veggeta X
02/12/21 8:07:07 PM
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You're entitled to your opinion.

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Veggeta X
02/12/21 8:13:06 PM
#94:


@NatsuSama

Remember how you said "Why does it bother people are not drooling over Gokus sub voice? Accept not everyone is going to love it."? Well why does it bother people are not droll over Gokus dub voice? Accept not everyone is going to love it.

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NatsuSama
02/12/21 8:27:31 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
@NatsuSama

Remember how you said "Why does it bother people are not drooling over Gokus sub voice? Accept not everyone is going to love it."? Well why does it bother people are not droll over Gokus dub voice? Accept not everyone is going to love it.
I'm not the one who made a topic crying why people don't love the sub voice. You did.

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Veggeta X
02/12/21 9:07:09 PM
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NatsuSama posted...
I'm not the one who made a topic crying why people don't love the sub voice. You did.
That's quite the narrative you're building here. Please show me the part where you think I'm crying.

@NatsuSama

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You're entitled to your little opinion.

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Ermac
02/12/21 9:17:44 PM
#98:


This is insanity, the Japanese version is obviously better

I grew up with the English dub, and I still like it, but the Japanese goku is the true goku. I think of it like a savage tone of voice

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Bloodmoon77
02/12/21 10:01:29 PM
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Sub Goku is legitimately terrible. There's no reason he should sound like that but also his reacts are unbearable to listen to. Hearing him scream a barage of punches is just bad.

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