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snoochtonooch 02/13/21 12:16:27 PM #51: |
g980 posted...
why is he obligated to get involvedAll of this --- http://www.last.fm/user/snoochtonooch official protector of Cuddles the kitten of the rock board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yazarogi 02/13/21 12:16:31 PM #52: |
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Could have been bullying due to the way he tends to sexualize the ladies in his shows and likely that was happening with Michelle. this is a possibility, now that the floodgates are open maybe we will learn more. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 02/13/21 12:18:42 PM #53: |
james marsters cried after the buffy rape scene and had it added to his contract he wont do rape scenes
all of this has been known for years --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SquirtleSkwad 02/13/21 12:19:45 PM #54: |
snoochtonooch posted...
All of thisYou should absolutely care. --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CrimsonWaffle 02/13/21 12:23:35 PM #55: |
https://twitter.com/JoseMolinaTV/status/1360386433769295873?s=20
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pinky0926 02/13/21 12:26:05 PM #56: |
I honestly find it weird that people feel entitled to a statement from someone peripherally involved without any knowledge of the situation.
Like I get the anger at the situation, but not the expectation that everyone needs to make a statement otherwise it means complicity. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 02/13/21 12:27:52 PM #57: |
Why did people ever like this guy lol
Or do you just like his work --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 02/13/21 12:32:07 PM #58: |
MedeaLysistrata posted...
Why did people ever like this guy lol people liked his work buffy and angel are still great works of television and he had a role in making that happen the great cast also help make both shows amazing and even though now we are learning this self proclaimed feminist is anything but a feminist the show buffy itself still has a strong feminist message that holds up --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 02/13/21 12:34:27 PM #59: |
yusiko posted...
people liked his workIdk about that, I've seen the "not a feminist" criticism levied at this dude for years and barely know who he is, but I guess people have been sick of him for years either way since he does/did get ripped on Wasn't he commenting on gamergate at the time? FWIW I think this guy maybe needs a break from showbiz --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 02/13/21 12:36:37 PM #60: |
wait so you've never seen buffy then @MedeaLysistrata
you actually need to go watch the show. its really good. well its first season sucks but it has a great season finale. and its 6th and 7th seasons are awful but season 6 had a musical episode which was great. basically watch the first 5 seasons to get a feel or what made buffy great --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 02/13/21 12:37:47 PM #61: |
yusiko posted...
wait so you've never seen buffy then @MedeaLysistrataMaybe lol --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/13/21 1:05:45 PM #62: |
KILBOTz posted...
its not about trusting himself, its about avoiding being accused of shit. Hes a powerful man, people have tried to take him down before.If you're already getting handsy with your adult crew, you definitely don't want to even appear sketchy around minors. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheLiarParadox 02/13/21 3:21:22 PM #63: |
pinky0926 posted...
I honestly find it weird that people feel entitled to a statement from someone peripherally involved without any knowledge of the situation.Why? This is an industry rife with countless victims of all kinds of abuse in situations that have frequently been considered the "worst kept secrets" by people in and outside of it. All of it was enabled by silence, so it's not a great look when people have nothing to say. They don't even have to confirm or deny anything, or take sides. Just a simple statement to get a better picture of the situation goes a long way. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 02/13/21 3:22:58 PM #64: |
This nonsense that people are obligated to get involved really needs to stop. He doesn't owe anyone anything.
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CanuckCowboy 02/13/21 3:24:07 PM #65: |
TheLiarParadox posted...
Why? This is an industry rife with countless victims of all kinds of abuse in situations that have frequently been considered the "worst kept secrets" by people in and outside of it. All of it was enabled by silence, so it's not a great look when people have nothing to say. They don't even have to confirm or deny anything, or take sides. Just a simple statement to get a better picture of the situation goes a long way. What could possibly be the point in a statement which confirms or denies nothing and takes no sides? What information would that even provide anyone? That sounds a lot more like pointless virtue signaling to the masses than anything that would be meaningful or worthwhile. It's great that people are speaking up but no one is obligated to nor should they be. Especially by people who don't know them or know anything about their experiences. --- "A dope trailers no place for a kitty, Ricky. Thats why." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 02/13/21 3:25:06 PM #66: |
Vyrulisse posted...
This nonsense that people are obligated to get involved really needs to stop. He doesn't owe anyone anything. Exactly. Good for those who do speak out. If he doesn't feel a need to or doesn't believe he has anything to say who the hell are random people on the internet to demand it of him? --- "A dope trailers no place for a kitty, Ricky. Thats why." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheLiarParadox 02/13/21 4:04:49 PM #67: |
CanuckCowboy posted...
What could possibly be the point in a statement which confirms or denies nothing and takes no sides? What information would that even provide anyone?' You're misunderstanding. People want Boreanaz and Hannigan to come out and back the others up, even if though their experiences might not match. They don't have to do that, nor do they necessarily have to come out and support Whedon. It's not just about nailing or absolving Whedon but deconstructing yet another toxic show biz environment and there is no valueless input when it comes to that. Speaking up gives a better picture of how and why he chose to victimize some while others were spared, as well as how he got away with it under the noses of so many, especially the marquee names. If someone doesn't know anything, that's fine. Let people know that they weren't aware and simply choosing not to stop it, because after all the things we've confirmed in recent years about depravity in show business, that's not at all outside of the realm of possibility. Considering that silence above everything else is what has enabled/ignored/protected these people for decades, nobody really gets the luxury of staying quiet anymore. It might not be fair, it might not be easy to speak out, but it's the right thing to do, and I speak from personal experience as a victim of and whistleblower in abuse situations. I can't imagine being so intimately related to a scandal like this and having absolutely nothing to say. Doesn't necessarily suggest complicity but I don't think it suggests anything good, either, for anyone. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 02/13/21 4:12:58 PM #68: |
There's also the chance they may be taking time with lawyers and agents for carefully prepared statements.
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ultimate reaver 02/13/21 4:14:47 PM #69: |
holding people accountable is cool. however, the absolute worse thing that twitter does is force people who don't jump in and crusade with them and forego all friendships and relationships at the demand of the mob against the wall and turn them into enemies-by-proxy
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ZeroX91 02/13/21 4:20:23 PM #70: |
We have hit the point where not making a statement is viewed as endorsement. Twitter was a mistake.
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Scorsese2002 02/13/21 4:24:39 PM #71: |
Just because people want them to say something doesnt mean they have to say something
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Lord_Shadow_19 02/14/21 8:06:15 AM #72: |
SquirtleSkwad posted...
Because a powerful and influential director abused his privilege to literally sexually assault his subordinates? Idk how else to explain why you should be against something like that. Actually they're just allegation, we don't know if any of it actually happened. FortuneCookie posted... Notably silent? Facts ScazarMeltex posted... See this kind of shit annoys me. Make a concrete accusation or shut the fuck up. This vague bullshit that can be viewed through any number of lenses is stupid. If the dude did something bad then fucking say so. If not, then vaguely posting about him not being allowed alone with you is just weird. Sounds like the Ray Fisher nonsense where he made vague claims but wouldn't get specific likely because whatever actually happened wasn't quite as bad as what he wants people to imagine happened (or he was lying but I doubt it as Whedon is known for being something of a Tyrant on set). --- Come to the Stonks and Crypto board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1538-stonks-and-crypto ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 02/14/21 8:50:28 AM #73: |
Literally three tweets do not make a campaign of "cancelling the silent".
But as Our the Lord Shadow immediately rushes to Whedon's defense despite MULTIPLE allegations, I'm not sure what point there is in responding. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/14/21 8:54:23 AM #74: |
This is so stupid. People need to find better things to do with their time than get upset at who isn't calling out someone for being mean and not nice to work with.
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Lord_Shadow_19 02/14/21 9:07:56 AM #75: |
CyricZ posted...
Literally three tweets do not make a campaign of "cancelling the silent". The principle of innocent until proven guilty isnt some kind of outrageous damage control. Meanwhile, more than half the people are acting like this mere allegation is a beyond the shadow of a doubt proven fact. I mean if I made a claim about you, is it true just because it was stated? No. Also, why should we demand other people get involved when they have no reason to. Really though, I understand why you're an angry person, and I'm not going to comment further on that because I don't think its a situation to make fun of, but do yourself a favor and keep my name out of your mouth before you too lose the privilege of seeing my posts without having to log on to one of your alts. --- Come to the Stonks and Crypto board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1538-stonks-and-crypto ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 02/14/21 9:11:48 AM #76: |
Why is anyone obligated to get involved?
If they defend Joss then fine, be mad. But mad because they didn't speak up... is dumb... --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crepes 02/14/21 9:38:48 AM #77: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Why is anyone obligated to get involved? "you're either with us or against us" seems to be the mentality these days with things like this --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 02/14/21 9:53:28 AM #78: |
Oh dear god no. Not me being denied the privilege of seeing Our the Lord Shadow. Anything but that.
Seriously, how many allegations against rich white men do you need before you start believing? Ballpark. By all means put me on block if you can't handle being called out. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 02/14/21 10:22:40 AM #79: |
SquirtleSkwad posted...
Oh yeah. Whedon himself made a rule where he couldn't be alone in a room with minors. Let's entertain this for a second. Why would he not trust himself alone with minors? KILBOTz posted... because an accusation alone will ruin your life. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Shadow_19 02/14/21 10:43:12 AM #81: |
CyricZ posted...
Oh dear god no. Not me being denied the privilege of seeing Our the Lord Shadow. Anything but that. That's pretty fucking racist. --- Come to the Stonks and Crypto board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1538-stonks-and-crypto ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Firewerx 02/14/21 11:17:54 AM #82: |
Is it feasible that they didn't personally witness the behaviour that Whedon's been accused of, and didn't hear anything about it at the time, so they'd prefer not to comment because they can't be sure of who's telling the truth?
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CyricZ 02/14/21 11:28:27 AM #83: |
Ah yes.
"CTRL+F "white". One match found." "Initiate "you're the real racist" protocol." I'm sure Lord_Shadow has a lot to tell us about the white genocide. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crepes 02/14/21 11:29:03 AM #84: |
CyricZ posted...
Ah yes. I don't get why people give obvious trolls like him the time. Just block and move on with life. --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulGrave 02/14/21 11:56:18 AM #85: |
Crepes posted...
Is that what happened? I know he was a controlling prick masochist. But I didnt see anything to suggest he physically sexually assaulted anyone.Whedon is into self harm? --- You enjoy teaching high schoolers, and I'll enjoy creating my crappy manga. Let's see where we both are in a year. TheDoorMouse Update https://imgur.com/vz0c9xf ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crepes 02/14/21 12:02:31 PM #86: |
ViewtifulGrave posted...
Whedon is into self harm? lol opps meant sadist --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Shadow_19 02/14/21 12:21:08 PM #87: |
Crepes posted...
I don't get why people give obvious trolls like him the time. Just block and move on with life.1. How am I even trolling here, all I've said is that there is no proof of what Whedon is currently accused of. 2. Cyric came after me because he needs an enemy to attack. I've interacted with him like once before where he attacked me without knowing who I am (he's filled with repressed rage so I won't hold it against him). Despite his rhetoric, he doesn't want to block me or for me to block him because he wants to interact with me, he needs to interact with me. Sure, he would find new outlets to express his rage at, but they wouldn't be quite as evil as the image of me hes painted in his mind. --- Come to the Stonks and Crypto board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1538-stonks-and-crypto ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crepes 02/14/21 12:29:50 PM #88: |
Zzz lmao
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CyricZ 02/14/21 12:30:09 PM #89: |
Note how he threatened to block me, then didn't?
I'm picking up some projection. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 02/14/21 4:30:34 PM #90: |
God, I hate celebrity worship / gossip culture.
I think people need to stop getting so involved in the lives of celebrities. No one should give one shred of a shit how they choose to live and how they choose to react to things. --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 02/14/21 4:42:32 PM #92: |
Lord_Shadow_19 posted...
1. How am I even trolling here, all I've said is that there is no proof of what Whedon is currently accused of. You know witness testimony is a form of proof yeah? Several actors and people in the industry coming out against Whedon isn't just... not evidence. You even said yourself he has a reputation of being a tyrant. But you do you I guess. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 02/14/21 4:46:23 PM #93: |
I'd like to report that he in fact followed through and now I don't gotta see his shit no more. :D
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Kingbuffet 02/14/21 4:47:45 PM #94: |
How about Buffy? Seems like theyre targeting the CList actors only
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Darmik 02/14/21 4:48:18 PM #95: |
Kingbuffet posted...
How about Buffy? Seems like theyre targeting the CList actors only Sarah Michelle Gellar made a statement already --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 02/14/21 4:48:47 PM #96: |
Kingbuffet posted...
How about Buffy? Seems like theyre targeting the CList actors onlyOh you mean Sarah Michelle Gellar? She made a statement. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Shadow_19 02/14/21 4:54:59 PM #97: |
Darmik posted...
You know witness testimony is a form of proof yeah? Several actors and people in the industry coming out against Whedon isn't just... not evidence. You even said yourself he has a reputation of being a tyrant. Not necessarily, it just means they believe her for whatever reason, it isnt proof of anything, especially since none of them are even recalling any specific events that have occurred. This is eerily similar to the Ray Fisher situation where no specifics are being given here and there's no actual proof of anything having happened. What exactly happened? Were there any witnesses? I'm not even looking to defend Whedon of all people as if any of this is true id love nothing more than to laugh at him after pretending to be a feminist all this time and turning out to be a real creep (as happens plenty with male feminists). That said, you can't just accuse people of really horrible, career ending shit without some kind of proof or evidence. --- Come to the Stonks and Crypto board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1538-stonks-and-crypto ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bobby_Lee 02/14/21 6:19:05 PM #98: |
g980 posted...
why is he obligated to get involved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crepes 02/14/21 6:30:27 PM #99: |
Lord_Shadow_19 posted...
I dont disagree with what you say man. I think your issue is the way you go around it. You dont exactly make people want to agree with you. Learn how to bring people along with you instead of alienating everyone man. Youll get a lot more success in your attempts to win people over my man. --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Creep_2020 02/14/21 6:44:27 PM #100: |
Crepes posted...
I dont disagree with what you say man. I think your issue is the way you go around it. You dont exactly make people want to agree with you. Learn how to bring people along with you instead of alienating everyone man. Youll get a lot more success in your attempts to win people over my man. Well, being notorious for equating LGBT with incest and going for a gotcha around why do you have a problem with incest? will kinda get peoples hackles up. --- Have I carved enough, my Lord? Child, you are a bone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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