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dave_is_slick 02/18/21 11:44:44 AM #51: |
CyricZ posted...
She can't cameo because of upskirt.They slightly tweaked Mythra's outfit, they could easily do the same. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 02/18/21 11:44:56 AM #52: |
slmcknett posted...
That one guy did have a point, there really are no black characters in Smash, huh? I never really thought about that.It just points to an unfortunate reality about the severe lack of black characters in general in video games. Especially as protagonists. Doesn't help that Smash is mostly Japanese IPs. --- "This is your last dance." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/18/21 11:45:46 AM #53: |
slmcknett posted...
That one guy did have a point, there really are no black characters in Smash, huh?Doc Louis, please. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LostForest 02/18/21 11:49:23 AM #54: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Doc Louis, please. Honestly this. Doc Louis is a cool character. They should've added him as an echo for Little Mac and then people could stop bitching about there not being enough diversity in Smash --- ForestLogic alt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/18/21 11:52:06 AM #55: |
LostForest posted...
Little Mac is ambiguously-brown now anyway, who cares? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Choco 02/18/21 11:52:49 AM #56: |
dave_is_slick posted...
They slightly tweaked Mythra's outfit, they could easily do the same.yeah i'm sure you know better than the guy who wanted to put her in and was mad that he couldn't --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 02/18/21 11:54:41 AM #57: |
They got the actual artist of Mythra to redesign her and even put that redesign in Xenoblade 2 for fun. I assume Sakurai, being the SNK fanboy he is, wanted her in her classic look like everyone was in that stage
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Pus_N_Pecans 02/18/21 11:56:56 AM #58: |
Pyra is pretty embarrassing though. I know people love to make the argument that Bayonetta is also a fanservice character, but at least she's not presented as some fucktoy the way Pyra is.
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Scarecrow17 02/18/21 11:58:26 AM #59: |
slmcknett posted...
That one guy did have a point, there really are no black characters in Smash, huh? I never really thought about that. Nah, I think some of those people just want a black character to fill some type of diversity quota. I would love for a black character to get into Smash Bros. but theres not really any great choices. This is more of an industry problem than a Smash Bros. problem. Smash doesnt create its own characters so they cant really put in some random black character. The fact that some people in that ResetEra thread suggested characters like Doc Louis or Cherry Hunter feels a little insulting to people like me because it seems like some of these people want diversity points. Some of the other suggestions, like Elma, arent even PoC. Thankfully, several black users in that same thread voiced their opinion on what they think about the lack of representation and how it doesnt offend them. Its tiring to see people, who typically arent black themselves, be offended for individuals such as myself. I think several women users in that ResetEra thread pointed out how theres nothing really wrong with a character having big breasts and they were attacked by the men user base. I think one user said she felt suicidal for a time due to how the male user base on ResetEra treated characters with large breasts because she has large breasts in real life and it made her feel insecure and hate herself. Overall, its a horrible site. I only browse it for gaming news and leaks since thats all its good for if you ask me. --- His foundation lie in the holy mountain. Selah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/18/21 11:58:40 AM #60: |
Pus_N_Pecans posted...
but at least she's not presented as some fucktoy the way Pyra isDhalia, please. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mist_Turnips 02/18/21 12:01:34 PM #61: |
Scarecrow17 posted...
slmcknett posted...That one guy did have a point, there really are no black characters in Smash, huh? I never really thought about that. That's exactly what SJWs are. Hell, even on this site I've seen an SJW insult try to lecture a transgender user on what they are supposed to think about transgender issues. These are basement gremlins who are desperately seeking validation from minorities yet get angry when minorities don't follow a hive mind. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sneakysnake 02/18/21 12:07:10 PM #62: |
If she was in a hijab, Resetera would have said its her best character design.
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Solar_Crimson 02/18/21 12:11:30 PM #63: |
dave_is_slick posted...
About the only valid thing in that entire thread was the point about Mai. She can't cameo because of boobs yet they add Pyra, why by far has the biggest boobs in the entire roster.Mai also has very skimpy, loose attire that shows off a lot of her skin, and also has copious jiggle physics. Pyra and Mythra show less skin, and even less in Smash. Blue_Inigo posted... It just points to an unfortunate reality about the severe lack of black characters in general in video games. Especially as protagonists. Doesn't help that Smash is mostly Japanese IPs.This is 100% true. Scarecrow17 posted... Nah, I think some of those people just want a black character to fill some type of diversity quota. I would love for a black character to get into Smash Bros. but theres not really any great choices. This is more of an industry problem than a Smash Bros. problem. Smash doesnt create its own characters so they cant really put in some random black character. The fact that some people in that ResetEra thread suggested characters like Doc Louis or Cherry Hunter feels a little insulting to people like me because it seems like some of these people want diversity points. Some of the other suggestions, like Elma, arent even PoC.Also agreed. I would LOVE for there to be actual Black Fighters in Smash, but there needs to be actual Black protagonists to choose from first, and the gaming industry is very lacking in that. The Japanese side is one thing, but it's especially glaring that American-made games also tend to shy away from them. But that also point towards another issue of there just not being enough Black game designers and directors--people with actual pull and not just the grunts--in the industry, to help add those characters to the fold. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 02/18/21 12:12:00 PM #64: |
Scarecrow17 posted...
Nah, I think some of those people just want a black character to fill some type of diversity quota. I would love for a black character to get into Smash Bros. but theres not really any great choices. This is more of an industry problem than a Smash Bros. problem. Smash doesnt create its own characters so they cant really put in some random black character. The fact that some people in that ResetEra thread suggested characters like Doc Louis or Cherry Hunter feels a little insulting to people like me because it seems like some of these people want diversity points. Some of the other suggestions, like Elma, arent even PoC. Not to nit-pick, but isn't Elma a PoC? In the sense that her usual depiction is a sort of ambiguous brown. She's not black, obviously, but she looks like a sort of darker skinned Asian woman. Unless you mean her other appearance, which is much paler. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KFHEWUI 02/18/21 12:12:23 PM #65: |
Drive-by trolling?! What the heck is that?
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sneakysnake 02/18/21 12:13:21 PM #66: |
Scarecrow17 posted...
Nah, I think some of those people just want a black character to fill some type of diversity quota. I would love for a black character to get into Smash Bros. but theres not really any great choices. This is more of an industry problem than a Smash Bros. problem. Smash doesnt create its own characters so they cant really put in some random black character. The fact that some people in that ResetEra thread suggested characters like Doc Louis or Cherry Hunter feels a little insulting to people like me because it seems like some of these people want diversity points. Some of the other suggestions, like Elma, arent even PoC. In the character creation of Demon's Souls remake, the initial character choice was black. Many people decided to change that... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pus_N_Pecans 02/18/21 12:13:31 PM #67: |
I mean, technically there is an Inkling costume or two as far as black characters in Smash goes. It's not a lot by any stretch of the imagination, but it's SOMETHING. They could have easily made a black pokemon trainer too if they put in some effort.
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YRYRDZ 02/18/21 12:13:41 PM #68: |
KFHEWUI posted...
Drive-by trolling?! What the heck is that?It's when they can't come up with anything to ban you for. --- Fandom is a cage. Don't chain yourself to only one game Currently playing Disgaea 2 PC. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InhumaneRaider 02/18/21 12:13:57 PM #69: |
Why the fuck do you guys care so much about ResetEra's and their shitty takes?
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Questionmarktarius 02/18/21 12:14:28 PM #70: |
InhumaneRaider posted...
Why the fuck do you guys care so much about ResetEra's and their shitty takes?schadenfreude ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YRYRDZ 02/18/21 12:15:45 PM #71: |
InhumaneRaider posted...
Why the fuck do you guys care so much about ResetEra's and their shitty takes?Because 1. ResetEra has a whole bunch of industry people in their fourms. 2. In small doses they are very amusing to laugh at. --- Fandom is a cage. Don't chain yourself to only one game Currently playing Disgaea 2 PC. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 02/18/21 12:16:51 PM #72: |
Esrac posted...
Not to nit-pick, but isn't Elma a PoC? In the sense that her usual depiction is a sort of ambiguous brown. She's not black, obviously, but she looks like a sort of darker skinned Asian woman.It's the fact that InhumaneRaider posted... Why the fuck do you guys care so much about ResetEra's and their shitty takes?Solar_Crimson posted... I only care this time because they're talking about a Smash Fighter that I'm interested in and was pretty much my most wanted Fighter (well, Rex with Pyra/Mythra was). --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 02/18/21 12:21:23 PM #73: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
It's the fact that Sure, but her I'm just saying, I think that counts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LostForest 02/18/21 2:20:59 PM #74: |
Pus_N_Pecans posted...
They could have easily made a black pokemon trainer too if they put in some effort. FWIW they made a seemingly latina Pokemon Trainer. --- ForestLogic alt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Graycap 02/18/21 2:35:37 PM #75: |
So they simultaneously pissed off dudebros who hate generic anime swordsmen and SJWs who hate fanservice + wanted Elma.
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OmegaPillow 02/18/21 2:36:52 PM #76: |
AssultTank posted...
Reading some of the posts there that got users temp banned, I'm astounded that people say that GameFAQs mods are worse than ResetEra mods...meh close enough but that resetera is a shitfest --- Psn: An_Axe_Murderer 360: An Axe Murd3r3r 3ds friend code: 3583 4500 8225 plz add me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/18/21 2:48:16 PM #77: |
Pus_N_Pecans posted...
I mean, technically there is an Inkling costume or two as far as black characters in Smash goes. It's not a lot by any stretch of the imagination, but it's SOMETHING. They could have easily made a black pokemon trainer too if they put in some effort. Inklings and villagers Honestly though the lack of black characters in smash isn't a remark on nintendo specifically as much as it is a remark on the dearth of recognizable black characters in video games. Most of the most famous ones are side characters. Main characters are few and far in between and most of them don't have very successful games. The ones that do are like, Grand Theft Auto. So people always rolling their eyes at folks complaining about "another white main character" but it has problems downstream as well and this is one of them. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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inTaCtfuL 02/18/21 2:48:22 PM #78: |
I'm dumb but isn't Steve black?
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Tyranthraxus 02/18/21 2:49:33 PM #79: |
inTaCtfuL posted...
I'm dumb but isn't Steve black?He is but I mean come on that dude doesn't even look remotely human. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 02/18/21 2:50:50 PM #80: |
Drive by trolling is when someone just hops in to stir the shit and leaves.
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Pus_N_Pecans 02/18/21 2:53:01 PM #81: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Inklings and villagersI mean, they COULD throw in Jade from Beyond Good and Evil and everyone would be happy. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caroniver 02/18/21 2:56:11 PM #82: |
El Mexicano Texano posted...
I'm bothered it's not the original clothesWhen Corrin got added to Smash. they covered her thighs. But for the 2D art, they left her thighs uncovered? When Mythra and Pyra released as Spirits in Ultimate, they gave Mythra tights, because legs too sexy. Pyra had no alterations to her outfit. Now that Pyra/Mythra is a fighter, Mythra stays as censored as she was, but Pyra has had her thighs covered up (because 3D thighs are too sexy, but 2D thighs are A-OK, apparently). --- Mixer of Mega Dash Juices, slayer of giant monsters. The elevation increases as the bullet is fired ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Artemis86 02/18/21 2:57:18 PM #83: |
AssultTank posted...
Reading some of the posts there that got users temp banned, I'm astounded that people say that GameFAQs mods are worse than ResetEra mods... One was literally just a dude acting like a heterosexual male. BANNED! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/18/21 2:57:42 PM #84: |
Third party characters are always going to be kind of a long shot and there's not many first party characters to choose from.
They can probably add KOS-MOS + T-ELOS echo or skin but they just royally fucked that up. Great chance to add a non swordfighter at the same time. Oh well. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YRYRDZ 02/18/21 3:22:51 PM #85: |
LightningAce11 posted...
Drive by trolling is when someone just hops in to stir the shit and leaves.Why is that worth a ban, though? --- Fandom is a cage. Don't chain yourself to only one game Currently playing Disgaea 2 PC. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 02/18/21 3:24:11 PM #86: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
I usually roll my eyes over the endless whining about "SJWs" on the Internet, but this is just ridiculous:Sjws have always been this bad, so you dont need to roll your eyes just because youre now starting to agree they are bad --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 02/18/21 3:26:35 PM #87: |
Tom Clark posted...
Say what you will about our rules here, but at least "Boy's Club Behaviour" isn't a reason for a suspension.No but you do get suspended for things you didnt say and a mod misinterpreted, or made up rules that arent actually in the ToS --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seaman_Prime 02/18/21 3:26:56 PM #88: |
What a bunch of entitled babbies, I mean oppressed gamers.
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Flauros 02/18/21 6:15:50 PM #89: |
They seem the type that would complain if there was a black character because "the game displays a sickening ability to assault POC" or some shit like that.
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Monolith1676 02/18/21 6:16:45 PM #90: |
Who is Pyra/Mythra?
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Solar_Crimson 02/18/21 6:19:26 PM #91: |
Monolith1676 posted...
Who is Pyra/Mythra?The deuteragonists of Xenoblade Chronicles 2. They were picked over the actual main character Rex, but Rex would have played pretty much the same way as them anyway, since they provide and are his weapon. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monolith1676 02/18/21 6:22:49 PM #92: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
The deuteragonists of Xenoblade Chronicles 2. They were picked over the actual main character Rex, but Rex would have played pretty much the same way as them anyway, since they provide and are his weapon. Ah that is cool. I really have to play that series eventually. I loved Xenogears and Xenosaga. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate reaver 02/18/21 6:26:12 PM #93: |
i couldnt imagine caring about video game boobies that much. honestly though i also cant imagine caring about video game forums this much either so i guess it evens out
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YRYRDZ 02/18/21 6:28:35 PM #94: |
Flauros posted...
They seem the type that would complain if there was a black character because "the game displays a sickening ability to assault POC" or some shit like that.IIRC they were very mad you could beat up people in wheelchairs in Cyberpunk --- Fandom is a cage. Don't chain yourself to only one game Currently playing Disgaea 2 PC. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonOctopus 02/19/21 5:58:55 AM #95: |
YRYRDZ posted...
IIRC they were very mad you could beat up people in wheelchairs in CyberpunkYou can beat up people in wheelchairs in Cyberpunk? lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 02/19/21 6:14:07 AM #96: |
pyra's design is irredeemably awful in fairness
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Arcanine2009 02/19/21 6:28:47 AM #97: |
I will say this .. they have quality posts for threads dedicated to gaming and gaming news.
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Arcanine2009 02/19/21 11:14:19 PM #98: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
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