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Talk2DaHand
02/20/21 4:43:08 AM
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Biden has approved $285M worth of Raytheon weapons deals before he approved student loan debt cancellation, rent forgiveness, or $2,000 stimulus checks.



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David1988
02/20/21 4:43:48 AM
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Still better than Trump.

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Wagger_25
02/20/21 4:44:07 AM
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There is a process that congress has to do due to no republican support

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Talk2DaHand
02/20/21 4:44:27 AM
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David1988 posted...
Still better than Trump.



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I4NRulez
02/20/21 4:44:34 AM
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Is it up to him? Aren't we waiting on the senate who were wasting time with Trump

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Talk2DaHand
02/20/21 4:45:29 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
Is it up to him? Aren't we waiting on the senate who were wasting time with Trump

He can use executive orders. People need help, yesterday.

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Lost_All_Senses
02/20/21 4:46:32 AM
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I literally just got mail today that was talking about the first $600. Except they called it the second epidemic relief funds or whatever. What was the 1st, if that was the second? I checked my account to make sure it wasn't new lol

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I4NRulez
02/20/21 4:49:53 AM
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Talk2DaHand posted...
He can use executive orders. People need help, yesterday.

No he can't. I'm sure trumps EO on the stimulus was just an EO for the amount we got. I think it still needed to be approved by congress

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ShyOx
02/20/21 5:07:33 AM
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Talk2DaHand posted...
He can use executive orders. People need help, yesterday.

No he cant, please quit talking out of your ass and start writing your republican congressmen stonewalling all legislation. There is no one holding this up but them in the long term aside from ironing out specifics

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Wagger_25
02/20/21 5:16:54 AM
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Talk2DaHand posted...

hardcore tankies like you are worse then right wingers

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pogo_rabid
02/20/21 5:26:36 AM
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whats a tankie?

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Graycap
02/20/21 5:27:18 AM
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Wagger_25 posted...


hardcore tankies like you are worse then right wingers

That's what a Republican would say.
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Talk2DaHand
02/20/21 10:37:30 AM
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https://twitter.com/EdMarkey/status/1362121844371898368?s=19

Look at all the CE neolibs in denial lmao

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BignutzisBack
02/20/21 10:39:18 AM
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LinkDaLunatic
02/20/21 10:40:03 AM
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when. MONEY. QUESTIONMARK.
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CableZL
02/20/21 10:43:21 AM
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Talk2DaHand posted...
He can use executive orders. People need help, yesterday.
He can't spend unallocated money via executive orders. Congress has to approve the allocation of the money being spent and then the president signs the bill, which puts the bill into execution.

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Jagr_68
02/20/21 10:43:41 AM
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WHERE
MOTHER
FUCKING
MONEY
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Gawwwd

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fan357
02/20/21 10:44:14 AM
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Business as usual. No one should be surprised.

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Talk2DaHand
02/20/21 10:45:37 AM
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CableZL posted...
He can't spend unallocated money via executive orders. Congress has to approve the allocation of the money being spent and then the president signs the bill, which puts the bill into execution.

He can forgive federal student loans. That's a form of stimulus.

Talk2DaHand posted...
https://twitter.com/EdMarkey/status/1362121844371898368?s=19

Look at all the CE neolibs in denial lmao


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1337toothbrush
02/20/21 10:46:42 AM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-georgia-senate-runoff-2000-stimulus-checks-immediately-2021-1

President-elect Joe Biden told Georgia voters on Monday that $2,000 stimulus checks would be sent out to Americans right away if the state voted for the Democratic candidates Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff in Tuesday's US Senate runoffs.

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EzeDoesIt
02/20/21 10:52:08 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
whats a tankie?

Basically a person who supports authoritarian communism (tankie referring to military tanks). The term was originally created to describe British communist party members who supported the USSRs crushing of the far-right Hungarian revolution in the 1950s.

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Talk2DaHand
02/20/21 11:15:26 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-georgia-senate-runoff-2000-stimulus-checks-immediately-2021-1


Damn that's sad. And kids are still in cages

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Doom_Art
02/20/21 11:25:42 AM
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Conservatives pretending to give a shit about any of this are hilarious lol

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Jagr_68
02/20/21 11:30:09 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-georgia-senate-runoff-2000-stimulus-checks-immediately-2021-1

B-b-b-but he needs more time and Republicans keep getting in the way!!!"

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CableZL
02/20/21 11:32:59 AM
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Talk2DaHand posted...
He can forgive federal student loans. That's a form of stimulus.

Federal student loans would be an example of money that is already allocated by Congress.

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gatorsPENSbucs
02/20/21 11:34:28 AM
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Crazy how many of his day one promises or whatever are nowhere to be seen.

Also, with the way gas prices are rising were gonna need that stimulus money just to be able to drive. Almost 50 cents in a month is absurd and even more absurd that the county seems to not care about gas prices now.

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Samurontai
02/20/21 11:35:47 AM
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Some days it feels like right wingers are more tolerable to talk to than hardcore lefties

At least right wingers tend to have a basic understanding of how government works

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Samurontai
02/20/21 11:36:52 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Crazy how many of his day one promises or whatever are nowhere to be seen.

Also, with the way gas prices are rising were gonna need that stimulus money just to be able to drive. Almost 50 cents in a month is absurd and even more absurd that the county seems to not care about gas prices now.

Hey look, someone who doesnt know how gas prices actually work and fluctuate, trying to give a shitty prediction on gas prices

Nice

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Medussa
02/20/21 11:40:51 AM
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Civics. Classes. Now.

for the record, now's when it would be appropriate to start blaming Nancy Pelosi, though the house still has only dragged their feet by a couple weeks.

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vigorm0rtis
02/20/21 11:41:44 AM
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Found the enlightened centrist.

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Doom_Art
02/20/21 11:42:04 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
gas prices
Conservatives and stupid rhetoric surrounding gas prices

Name a more iconic duo

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1337toothbrush
02/20/21 11:58:39 AM
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Samurontai posted...
Some days it feels like right wingers are more tolerable to talk to than hardcore lefties

At least right wingers tend to have a basic understanding of how government works
Funny, because Trump used executive orders for many things that you democrats keep shrieking cannot be used for. Doing things in the most "correct" (read: slow) way only seems to matter when it's for aid to average Americans.

By the way, Biden seems to have thought this was all possible the first day in office: https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-georgia-senate-runoff-2000-stimulus-checks-immediately-2021-1

Guess Biden doesn't have a basic understanding of how government works either.

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Talk2DaHand
02/20/21 12:01:11 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
B-b-b-but he needs more time and Republicans keep getting in the way!!!"


Lol Doom Art already here making excuses for his neoliberal masters

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Samurontai
02/20/21 12:02:41 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Funny, because Trump used executive orders for many things that you democrats keep shrieking cannot be used for. Doing things in the most "correct" (read: slow) way only seems to matter when it's for aid to average Americans.

By the way, Biden seems to have thought this was all possible the first day in office: https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-georgia-senate-runoff-2000-stimulus-checks-immediately-2021-1

Guess Biden doesn't have a basic understanding of how government works either.

Care to post some of those EOs that you claim Trump put out, then? Funny how its (unsurprisingly) absent from such a bold post

Also, hes already signed an Economic Relief bill via EO

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/01/27/2021-01923/economic-relief-related-to-the-covid-19-pandemic

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Cheater87
02/20/21 12:06:02 PM
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An establishment candidate not working for the people, who would have known????

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Esrac
02/20/21 12:06:39 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Hey look, someone who doesnt know how gas prices actually work and fluctuate, trying to give a shitty prediction on gas prices

Nice

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression that I get from lefties (with their disdain for capitalism and endearment to centralized planning), is that those prices should not be able to fluctuate as demand rises. The prices should be set, presumably by the government, if not outright provided at no direct cost to the consumers. Seems to vary depending on how far to the left they fall.
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sondast
02/20/21 12:07:32 PM
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Still better than Trump.

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Talk2DaHand
02/20/21 12:08:16 PM
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sondast posted...
Still better than Trump.



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Samurontai
02/20/21 12:08:33 PM
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Esrac posted...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression that I get from lefties (with their disdain for capitalism and endearment to centralized planning), is that those prices should not be able to fluctuate as demand rises. The prices should be set, presumably by the government, if not outright provided at no direct cost to the consumers. Seems to vary depending on how far to the left they fall.

I dont even think that would be possible due to supply and demand, and idk, living in a capitalist society

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1337toothbrush
02/20/21 12:09:01 PM
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Esrac posted...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression that I get from lefties (with their disdain for capitalism and endearment to centralized planning), is that those prices should not be able to fluctuate as demand rises. The prices should be set, presumably by the government, if not outright provided at no direct cost to the consumers. Seems to vary depending on how far to the left they fall.
Gas prices are literally set by the cartel known as OPEC.

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Dark_SilverX
02/20/21 12:09:44 PM
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https://youtu.be/ZD2inIM5zBQ

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Jagr_68
02/20/21 12:11:20 PM
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Talk2DaHand posted...

Lol nailed it although this was general consensus for like 3/4 of North America

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Samurontai
02/20/21 12:12:12 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Gas prices are literally set by the cartel known as OPEC.

I mean, sometimes yeah

but OPEC doesnt have a huge say in the price of oil and gas in America, due to us producing a lot of our own

they have some influence, and a lot of influence in a lot of countries, but not America lol. Not since we started using Shale oil

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Esrac
02/20/21 12:15:29 PM
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Samurontai posted...
I dont even think that would be possible due to supply and demand, and idk, living in a capitalist society

I mean, it's the capitalist society part lefties want to dismantle.

But thats a lot of shoulda, woulda, coulda.
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1337toothbrush
02/20/21 12:17:04 PM
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Samurontai posted...
I mean, sometimes yeah

but OPEC doesnt have a huge say in the price of oil and gas in America, due to us producing a lot of our own

they have some influence, and a lot of influence in a lot of countries, but not America lol. Not since we started using Shale oil
You underestimate the amount of oil that OPEC controls. Additionally, the oil that OPEC controls is a lot cheaper to extract.

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Samurontai
02/20/21 12:17:28 PM
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Esrac posted...
I mean, it's the capitalist society part lefties want to dismantle.

But thats a lot of shoulda, woulda, coulda.

Yeah, but the funny (sad really) thing is, gas prices wouldnt be any better under either of the other ones either

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hockeybub89
02/20/21 12:17:56 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Yeah, but the funny (sad really) thing is, gas prices wouldnt be any better under either of the other ones either
I think people want to dismantle gasoline.

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Samurontai
02/20/21 12:21:21 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
You underestimate the amount of oil that OPEC controls. Additionally, the oil that OPEC controls is a lot cheaper to extract.

No, Im basing it off of how much oil America controls, compared to OPEC. OPEC are key leaders in global oil prices, but America has a pretty strong foothold due to increased production recently. Our oil prices arent based solely on OPEC, just influenced by them

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Samurontai
02/20/21 12:22:04 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I think people want to dismantle gasoline.

Thatd be a nice alternative tbh

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