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skermac 03/02/21 5:22:38 PM #1:	Biden erases Dr. Seuss from 'Read Across America' proclamation as progressives seek to cancel beloved author totally ridiculous imo --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:951265076] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Biden erases Dr. Seuss from 'Read Across America' proclamation as progressives seek to cancel beloved author totally ridiculous imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 03/02/21 5:31:45 PM #3:	dr. sus --- Though our bodies have betrayed us in a million different ways, in the morning I'll be all better <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:951265382] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>dr. sus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RaulJenkins 03/02/21 5:32:29 PM #4:	i'd look up the context of the situation but i'm just so tired of trying to keep up --- Raul <cite>RaulJenkins posted [p:951265402] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>i'd look up the context of the situation but i'm just so tired of trying to keep up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cuticrusader09 03/02/21 5:46:35 PM #5:	Its not like he was a great guy, he cheated on his wife that was sick. She committed suicide. --- AC - Violet on Penny. (N), Rose on Sapphire (S) <cite>Cuticrusader09 posted [p:951265969] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Its not like he was a great guy, he cheated on his wife that was sick. She committed suicide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 03/02/21 5:47:49 PM #6:	RaulJenkins posted... i'd look up the context of the situation but i'm just so tired of trying to keep up Offensive books have been removed from publication as they weren't big sellers anyways, all of his top sellers remain. People try and act like Seuss wasn't a piece of shit. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:951266018] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>RaulJenkins posted... </cite> <quote>i'd look up the context of the situation but i'm just so tired of trying to keep up</quote>Offensive books have been removed from publication as they weren't big sellers anyways, all of his top sellers remain. People try and act like Seuss wasn't a piece of shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 03/02/21 5:48:51 PM #7:	Couldnt give less of a shit tbh. You can walk into any bookstore or library and see those books everywhere. Not gonna shed tears because they were dropped from whatever the hell read across America is. --- https://imgur.com/mptS9Qj <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:951266049] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Couldnt give less of a shit tbh. You can walk into any bookstore or library and see those books everywhere. Not gonna shed tears because they were dropped from whatever the hell read across America is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 03/02/21 5:51:27 PM #8:	It's not being cancelled though? The publisher is simply not releasing certain books that contain offensive material anymore. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:951266143] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>It's not being cancelled though? The publisher is simply not releasing certain books that contain offensive material anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 03/02/21 5:51:58 PM #9:	Im so tired. --- "Don't worry about the rain. Walk between the raindrops." <cite>Stalolin posted [p:951266156] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Im so tired. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 03/02/21 5:52:59 PM #10:	Funkydog posted... The publisher is simply not releasing certain books that contain offensive material anymore. Certain books that were never that popular or widely read in the first place* --- https://imgur.com/Asq1ds6 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:951266190] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite> <quote>The publisher is simply not releasing certain books that contain offensive material anymore.</quote> Certain books that were never that popular or widely read in the first place* </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 03/02/21 5:54:35 PM #11:	I think its fine to say we shouldnt be reading the racist books to kids But he's written a lot of things that were great and theres no real reason to ignore them --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:951266251] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>I think its fine to say we shouldnt be reading the racist books to kids But he's written a lot of things that were great and theres no real reason to ignore them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonGrackle 03/02/21 5:54:42 PM #12:	we normally call that censorship <cite>CommonGrackle posted [p:951266252] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>we normally call that censorship</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 03/02/21 5:55:03 PM #13:	Everything is stupid --- Common sense shot Elmo! - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:951266259] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Everything is stupid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 03/02/21 5:55:13 PM #14:	CommonGrackle posted... we normally call that censorship No we don't. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:951266262] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>CommonGrackle posted... </cite> <quote>we normally call that censorship</quote>No we don't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 03/02/21 5:55:43 PM #15:	I don't see a reason to advertise a kids book that glorifies ownership of Black people but idk could just be me. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving/Crafting/RC https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:951266279] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>I don't see a reason to advertise a kids book that glorifies ownership of Black people but idk could just be me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 03/02/21 6:01:30 PM #16:	Seuss's non Seuss stuff is pretty cool. https://youtu.be/3WSk86uIx2E Really wanted a print of Firebird and the other bird can only get the prints through his familys site and a print of either runs you 2000 USD. Shits insane. --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:951266477] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Seuss's non Seuss stuff is pretty cool. https://youtu.be/3WSk86uIx2E Really wanted a print of Firebird and the other bird can only get the prints through his familys site and a print of either runs you 2000 USD. Shits insane. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 03/02/21 7:19:40 PM #18:	g980 posted... I think its fine to say we shouldnt be reading the racist books to kids But he's written a lot of things that were great and theres no real reason to ignore them ive never seen a racist dr seuss book, not saying they dont exist just that ive never seen one --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:951269174] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>I think its fine to say we shouldnt be reading the racist books to kids But he's written a lot of things that were great and theres no real reason to ignore them</quote> ive never seen a racist dr seuss book, not saying they dont exist just that ive never seen one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DDirtyDastard 03/02/21 7:22:59 PM #20:	I think people need to chill the fuck out. <cite>DDirtyDastard posted [p:951269288] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>I think people need to chill the fuck out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/02/21 7:24:01 PM #21:	I can't say it bothers me that dead people are criticized --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951269309] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>I can't say it bothers me that dead people are criticized </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 03/02/21 7:24:29 PM #22:	We can dig up shit on anyone. Everyone sucks if you look hard enough. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:951269319] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>We can dig up shit on anyone. Everyone sucks if you look hard enough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 03/02/21 7:25:05 PM #23:	Cancel that shit. --- Rather a Zoom Thanksgiving than an ICU Christmas. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:951269333] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Cancel that shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 03/02/21 7:25:17 PM #24:	Lairen posted... We can dig up shit on anyone. Everyone sucks if you look hard enough. No, and doesn't excuse him. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:951269342] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>We can dig up shit on anyone. Everyone sucks if you look hard enough.</quote>No, and doesn't excuse him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/02/21 7:28:50 PM #25:	Lairen posted... We can dig up shit on anyone. Everyone sucks if you look hard enough. Sounds like we should stop idolizing human beings. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951269467] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>We can dig up shit on anyone. Everyone sucks if you look hard enough.</quote>Sounds like we should stop idolizing human beings. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 03/02/21 7:30:29 PM #26:	RadiantJoyrock posted... No, and doesn't excuse him. No ones excused and everyone sucks. Lets cancel everyone. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:951269517] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>RadiantJoyrock posted... </cite> <quote>No, and doesn't excuse him.</quote> No ones excused and everyone sucks. Lets cancel everyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kage_53 03/02/21 7:34:37 PM #27:	I dont get whats the point of erasing people out of history. Literally, you could do that to everyone who was born before 2010. Biden himself has said stuff that would cause him to have the same fate. <cite>kage_53 posted [p:951269664] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>I dont get whats the point of erasing people out of history. Literally, you could do that to everyone who was born before 2010. Biden himself has said stuff that would cause him to have the same fate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImmatureContent 03/02/21 7:43:36 PM #28:	No one is being erased from history. We teach about some really terrible people in history. Adolf Hitler is certainly a big part of history class. The point is to stop propping up the shitty people in a place of reverence. --- NinjaMaster <cite>ImmatureContent posted [p:951269960] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>No one is being erased from history. We teach about some really terrible people in history. Adolf Hitler is certainly a big part of history class. The point is to stop propping up the shitty people in a place of reverence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 03/02/21 7:45:06 PM #29:	Lairen posted... No ones excused and everyone sucks. Lets cancel everyone. But everyone doesn't suck. There's a big difference between holding questionable views from your time, and supporting slavery in some of your books. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:951270021] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>No ones excused and everyone sucks. Lets cancel everyone.</quote>But everyone doesn't suck. There's a big difference between holding questionable views from your time, and supporting slavery in some of your books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 03/02/21 7:48:17 PM #30:	skermac posted... ive never seen a racist dr seuss book, not saying they dont exist just that ive never seen one Yea i dont think they were the populars And it wasnt like subtley racist, it was "oh yeah it was normal to portray some cultures as subhuman back then" So yea just skip those and read green eggs and ham again imo --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:951270131] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>skermac posted...</cite> <quote> ive never seen a racist dr seuss book, not saying they dont exist just that ive never seen one </quote> Yea i dont think they were the populars And it wasnt like subtley racist, it was "oh yeah it was normal to portray some cultures as subhuman back then" So yea just skip those and read green eggs and ham again imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frizzurd 03/02/21 7:49:29 PM #31:	Better not touch The Sneetches, or the Butter Battle Book. --- Super Mario Maker 2: Cauca Ape JVC-2R6-4QG <cite>Frizzurd posted [p:951270176] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Better not touch The Sneetches, or the Butter Battle Book. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CouldBeAnAlt 03/02/21 7:50:56 PM #32:	Hop on pop! --- Fithos lusec wecos vinosec <cite>CouldBeAnAlt posted [p:951270226] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Hop on pop! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 03/02/21 7:51:29 PM #33:	Don't care. The publishers decided not to print books that they think aren't appropriate anymore, and it's not like they were the super popular ones anyway. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:951270244] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Don't care. The publishers decided not to print books that they think aren't appropriate anymore, and it's not like they were the super popular ones anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 03/02/21 8:43:06 PM #34:	ImmatureContent posted... No one is being erased from history. We teach about some really terrible people in history. Adolf Hitler is certainly a big part of history class. The point is to stop propping up the shitty people in a place of reverence. Are you really comparing Dr Seuss to Hitler? Really? --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends Everything I say about myself is true. I never lie. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:951272011] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>ImmatureContent posted...</cite> <quote>No one is being erased from history. We teach about some really terrible people in history. Adolf Hitler is certainly a big part of history class. The point is to stop propping up the shitty people in a place of reverence. </quote> Are you really comparing Dr Seuss to Hitler? Really?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImmatureContent 03/02/21 9:00:28 PM #35:	Duncanwii posted... Are you really comparing Dr Seuss to Hitler? Really? No. I am using an extreme example of someone in history that has not been erased to clarify that we do not simply erase undesirable people from history. --- NinjaMaster <cite>ImmatureContent posted [p:951272540] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Are you really comparing Dr Seuss to Hitler? Really?</quote>No. I am using an extreme example of someone in history that has not been erased to clarify that we do not simply erase undesirable people from history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 03/02/21 9:03:46 PM #36:	I promise you no one gives a shit about Bidens "Read Across America" proclamation lol Dr Seuss will always be famous for things like Cat In The Hat and Green Eggs & Ham. Those books won't just disappear from existence. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:951272643] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>I promise you no one gives a shit about Bidens "Read Across America" proclamation lol Dr Seuss will always be famous for things like Cat In The Hat and Green Eggs & Ham. Those books won't just disappear from existence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 03/02/21 9:38:52 PM #37:	DDirtyDastard posted... I think people need to chill the fuck out. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:951273705] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>DDirtyDastard posted... </cite> <quote>I think people need to chill the fuck out.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 03/02/21 9:44:42 PM #38:	I mean all they are doing is banning the books that are racist. Whats the problem? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:951273879] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>I mean all they are doing is banning the books that are racist. Whats the problem? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 03/02/21 9:46:37 PM #39:	LightHawKnight posted... I mean all they are doing is banning books... Whats the problem? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:951273941] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>I mean all they are doing is banning books... Whats the problem?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 03/02/21 9:47:15 PM #40:	Sure leave out the racist part. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:951273963] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Sure leave out the racist part. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantJoyrock 03/02/21 10:22:16 PM #41:	LightHawKnight posted... I mean all they are doing is banning the books that are racist. Whats the problem? Nobody is banning books. The people who own the books are deciding not to sell them. <cite>RadiantJoyrock posted [p:951275206] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>I mean all they are doing is banning the books that are racist. Whats the problem?</quote>Nobody is banning books. The people who own the books are deciding not to sell them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 03/02/21 10:26:26 PM #42:	skermac posted... ive never seen a racist dr seuss book, not saying they dont exist just that ive never seen one --- You enjoy teaching high schoolers, and I'll enjoy creating my crappy manga. Let's see where we both are in a year. TheDoorMouse Update https://imgur.com/vz0c9xf <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:951275330] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>skermac posted... </cite> <quote>ive never seen a racist dr seuss book, not saying they dont exist just that ive never seen one</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 03/02/21 11:04:49 PM #43:	LightHawKnight posted... Sure leave out the racist part. Yeah, because if it's just banning books that would be a problem. If it's just people not printing more because theirs little demands, that's reasonable and fine. And it's ok to adjust the curriculum of schools though I do think schools should get to choose (which I expect they do). So I guess I don't understand where politics comes into this then --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:951276564] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>Sure leave out the racist part.</quote> Yeah, because if it's just banning books that would be a problem. If it's just people not printing more because theirs little demands, that's reasonable and fine. And it's ok to adjust the curriculum of schools though I do think schools should get to choose (which I expect they do). So I guess I don't understand where politics comes into this then </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/02/21 11:28:37 PM #44:	It was really difficult to find an actual quote from Dr. Seuss on this rather than just sensationalist articles. https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20190301-the-surprisingly-radical-politics-of-dr-seuss One problematic issue in Seusss wartime cartoons is touched upon in Horton Hears a Who!. The Japanese cartoons are horribly narrow and racist and stereotyped, says Minear. A supporter of the mass incarceration of Japanese-Americans, Seuss used offensive stereotypes to caricature the Japanese in his cartoons, leading to accusations that he was racist. I think he would find it a legitimate criticism, because I remember talking to him about it at least once and him saying that things were done a certain way back then, Ted Owens, a great-nephew of Geisel, told The New York Times. Characterizations were done, and he was a cartoonist and he tended to adopt those. And I know later in his life he was not proud of those at all. Seuss followed up a 1976 interview for his former college, Dartmouth, with a handwritten note in which he partially apologised for the cartoons. When I look at them now theyre hurriedly and embarrassingly badly drawn, and theyre full of many snap judgements that every political cartoonist has to make The one thing I do like about them, however, is their honesty and their frantic fervor. I believed the USA would go down the drain if we listened to the America Firstisms I probably was intemperate in my attacks on them. But they almost disarmed this country at a time it was obviously about to be destroyed, and I think I helped a little bit not much, but some in stating the fact that we were in a war and we damned well better ought to do something about it. According to Minear, Horton Hears a Who! was an apology of sorts for his anti-Japanese cartoons. It was written soon after the war, and after a visit to Japan. He doesnt come out and explicitly say hes recanting his earlier views but its a very different take. The 1954 book is a parable about post-war relations between the US, Japan and the Soviet Union, promoting equal treatment with the line a persons a person no matter how small. I think too many people don't realize that there is good and bad in many things. It either has to be all good or all bad with no in-between. That's not a very healthy mindset. A lot of people are going to stop reading Dr. Seuss books ever again because of this, which is fine. But people are also going to discourage others from reading or promoting Dr. Seuss books, which is not fine tbh. --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:951277252] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>It was really difficult to find an actual quote from Dr. Seuss on this rather than just sensationalist articles. https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20190301-the-surprisingly-radical-politics-of-dr-seuss <quote>One problematic issue in Seusss wartime cartoons is touched upon in Horton Hears a Who!. The Japanese cartoons are horribly narrow and racist and stereotyped, says Minear. A supporter of the mass incarceration of Japanese-Americans, Seuss used offensive stereotypes to caricature the Japanese in his cartoons, leading to accusations that he was racist. I think he would find it a legitimate criticism, because I remember talking to him about it at least once and him saying that things were done a certain way back then, Ted Owens, a great-nephew of Geisel, told The New York Times. Characterizations were done, and he was a cartoonist and he tended to adopt those. And I know later in his life he was not proud of those at all. Seuss followed up a 1976 interview for his former college, Dartmouth, with a handwritten note in which he partially apologised for the cartoons. When I look at them now theyre hurriedly and embarrassingly badly drawn, and theyre full of many snap judgements that every political cartoonist has to make The one thing I do like about them, however, is their honesty and their frantic fervor. I believed the USA would go down the drain if we listened to the America Firstisms I probably was intemperate in my attacks on them. But they almost disarmed this country at a time it was obviously about to be destroyed, and I think I helped a little bit not much, but some in stating the fact that we were in a war and we damned well better ought to do something about it. According to Minear, Horton Hears a Who! was an apology of sorts for his anti-Japanese cartoons. It was written soon after the war, and after a visit to Japan. He doesnt come out and explicitly say hes recanting his earlier views but its a very different take. The 1954 book is a parable about post-war relations between the US, Japan and the Soviet Union, promoting equal treatment with the line a persons a person no matter how small.</quote> I think too many people don't realize that there is good and bad in many things. It either has to be all good or all bad with no in-between. That's not a very healthy mindset. A lot of people are going to stop reading Dr. Seuss books ever again because of this, which is fine. But people are also going to discourage others from reading or promoting Dr. Seuss books, which is not fine tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheoryzC 03/03/21 12:15:33 AM #45:	Imagine if twitter was a thing back when this happened https://people.com/archive/a-boy-sides-with-dr-seusss-lorax-and-puts-a-town-at-loggerheads-vol-32-no-17/ --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. <cite>TheoryzC posted [p:951278529] in Your thoug... [t:79326442]...</cite> <quote>Imagine if twitter was a thing back when this happened https://people.com/archive/a-boy-sides-with-dr-seusss-lorax-and-puts-a-town-at-loggerheads-vol-32-no-17/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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