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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 9:39:13 PM
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Don't y'all realize that, at base, it's just believing in something greater than probable logic. Believing in a higher source. Believing that there are right and wrong ways to live your life. Concepts such as good, evil, law, order, disorder, etc come from religion. Life and the universe are logically gray and meaningless; if you believe in meaning, then you're essentially religious, because you're ignoring logic.

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ROOTFayth
03/03/21 9:41:34 PM
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I dont hate religion as a concept, I hate the fact that followers are pushing their religious agenda down our throats, same thing happens with vegans who are trying to get you to quit eating meat by telling you youre a murderer lol
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hockeybub89
03/03/21 9:45:29 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Don't y'all realize that, at base, it's just believing in something greater than probable logic
I realize it because that's exactly why I don't believe in one.

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ROOTFayth
03/03/21 9:49:58 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
reminder that the Catholic church has been diddling little kids and covering it up at the highest levels for literal centuries
this technically has no relevence to religion as a concept, just flawed humans being flawed
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Unsugarized_Foo
03/03/21 9:50:11 PM
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The hate needs to be specific and appropriate, yes

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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/03/21 9:52:15 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Concepts such as good, evil, law, order, disorder, etc come from religion

wrong

Scotty_Rogers posted...
if you believe in meaning, then you're essentially religious, because you're ignoring logic.

wrong


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Delta_Force
03/03/21 9:57:59 PM
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The problem is that belief in a religion, any religion, is unreasonable.
Why would you willing choose to believe in nonsense just because we don't yet understand everything that surrounds us?

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MabusIncarnate
03/03/21 10:00:07 PM
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My wife's dad, uncle, grandfather, and many before him come from a long line of preachers, they all are practicing from a history of baptist teaching that they can date back to the 1600s. I thought it was going to be a big issue, because I lived with my wife before we were married, and I made it known to him what my beliefs are and where I stood as an atheist person.

Both her dad and granddad were on the same page and taught me that it's a relationship, it's something you feel, it's something you know, and if it's not there, you don't feel it, it's better to be honest instead of lying and pretend to believe when you don't. I don't feel it, I have no faith or spirituality, and they are fine with that. It was more of a "If you get there, you get there, if you don't you don't. It's not for everyone, and not everyone finds faith or belief in God."

Neither of them push me, or speak ill of me for it, they don't try to fool me with scare tactics and say i'm going to hell and all of that trash. It's a mutual respect and left the door open for questions if I ever have any, and an invitation to go to church if I ever feel like going.

The fearmongering, the ones that act above you, the ones that are contradictory and are terrible people but wear religion as a badge of security that they can be like that but are still safe because they preach, is what ruins religion for a lot of people imo. There is a lot of man-created evils in organized religion, and it's declining because of the people who act this way.

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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/03/21 10:01:13 PM
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Delta_Force posted...
The problem is that belief in a religion, any religion, is unreasonable.
Why would you willing choose to believe in nonsense just because we don't yet understand everything that surrounds us?

Excuse my pedantry, but there's a difference between theism and religion. Like, secular humanism.

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ROOTFayth
03/03/21 10:02:20 PM
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Delta_Force posted...
The problem is that belief in a religion, any religion, is unreasonable.
Why would you willing choose to believe in nonsense just because we don't yet understand everything that surrounds us?
for comfort it would seem, or to help people get through ordeals in their life, it does seem to work for those who are believers at least
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Trumble
03/03/21 10:02:46 PM
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You spelt "not enough" wrong.

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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 10:05:34 PM
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EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
wrong

wrong

Nah, it's correct. Morality ultimately is a religious thing. Why do you find so and so wrong? Because you're taught it's wrong, like your parents or so were taught it's wrong. And what was the source of it? Some sort scripture said to be "holy".

Hey, maybe "religion" is just a pointless label. Cal it whatever you want, but if you believe any law or rule matters, then you may as well put yourself in the same category as a religious person. You both believe in meaning, despite the fact life is logically meaningless to begin with.

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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 10:08:19 PM
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The issue a lot of you seem to have with religion doesn't seem to be with the religion itself, but the hypocrites who claim to be religious. But they have nothing to do with it in and of itself. Just find your own religion or some shit.

There's really nothing wrong with simply believing in God, a Messiah and some sort of holy code. How you go about it is another thing.

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pure_temper
03/03/21 10:11:26 PM
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Read my comments here:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79325414

i am unashamedly a christian

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SomeLikeItHoth
03/03/21 10:20:43 PM
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God is good!

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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 10:22:36 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
God is good!

Bless. We and the rest of The Fam are going to Heaven. We just gotta save the non-believers before we go

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SomeLikeItHoth
03/03/21 10:24:08 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Bless. We and the rest of The Fam are going to Heaven. We just gotta save the non-believers before we go


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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 10:25:01 PM
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#PrayingForCE

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Hop103
03/03/21 10:32:36 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
reminder that the Catholic church has been diddling little kids and covering it up at the highest levels for literal centuries


That's the fault of man not religion, even men of the cloth can be corrupted rotten same with the coverups.
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ZeroX91
03/03/21 10:34:00 PM
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Religion is fine until it starts making policy.

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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 10:35:36 PM
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Y'all realize that y'all engage in the same "bad" behaviors that you associate with religious people? For an example, mob mentality and all that jazz?

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MKScorpion
03/03/21 10:37:37 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Concepts such as good, evil, law, order, disorder, etc come from religion

You don't need religion to be a good person.

And I wouldn't care about religion if it's followers didn't use it to try and make everyone follow their made up rules. That's where my problem with it lies. Be religious if you want, but I shouldn't have to live my life the way you do because some old ass books says shit in it.

Keep religion out of our laws. If YOU are against abortion then don't get one. If YOU have a problem with gay marriage then don't get married to somebody of the same sex. If YOU think people shouldn't be able to buy alcohol before noon on Sundays then don't do it.

The rest of us should be able to make those decisions for ourselves. I don't need the government or some wacko religion making those decisions for me.

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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/03/21 10:37:42 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
And what was the source of it? Some sort scripture said to be "holy".

wrong!

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Unsugarized_Foo
03/03/21 10:37:44 PM
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ZeroX91 posted...
Religion is fine until it starts making policy.

This seems to be a good take

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R_Jackal
03/03/21 10:42:36 PM
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Like most things, the fanatics ruin it for everyone else.

Having looked in to a lot of religions a large portion of the popular ones todays general idea is "don't be a dick." Some people take this as "be a dick all the time."
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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 10:50:03 PM
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MKScorpion posted...
You don't need religion to be a good person.

Brah good and evil is illogical to begin with. Everything is logically gray. If you believe any meaning in this gray universe, then you're basically religious. That's all religion is. Believing in meaning.

EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
wrong!

Keep covering them ears brah

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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/03/21 10:54:34 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Brah good and evil is illogical to begin with. Everything is logically gray. If you believe any meaning in this gray universe, then you're basically religious. That's all religion is. Believing in meaning.

Keep covering them ears brah

Examine your own thought process: Did people just make completely arbitrary choices before holy script was a thing?

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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 10:55:29 PM
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No, really. We say fuck religion because it's logically bullshit. But if you wanna talk about logic, then life is pointless. Believe in any point, and you got religion dawg. Just because you're not reading a book or praying to someone you think is high up somewhere, doesn't mean you're not religious.

People found religion to find meaning in this gray universe. And when y'all tryna to find meaning, y'all doing what religious people do.

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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/03/21 10:58:42 PM
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You need something more concrete than "find meaning", because we all find meaning each time we look at a menu, and realize what the squiggly lines on it mean.

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RustyFerret
03/03/21 11:01:32 PM
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Ideology is basically just another form of religion.

It's holding intangible, made up ideals that only exist in the realm of human thought as the highest thing to achieve.
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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 11:07:04 PM
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Tl;dr if you believe in good and bad then youre religious

You can't even prove whats good or bad to begin with. You just believe. Just like how religious people believe in their religions

Logically speaking life is gray, random and vague. Everything just is, nothing more or less. But fuck logic fam I believe in God and Jesus for life

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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 11:07:45 PM
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pure_temper
03/03/21 11:08:25 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Tl;dr if you believe in good and bad then youre religious

You can't even prove whats good or bad to begin with. You just believe. Just like how religious people believe in their religions

Logically speaking life is gray, random and vague. Everything just is, nothing more or less. But fuck logic fam I believe in God and Jesus for life

amen bro this is exactly right man

and every religion is true in their own way because obviously Jesus existed in all cultured

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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/03/21 11:09:30 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Tl;dr if you believe in good and bad then youre religious

You can't even prove whats good or bad to begin with. You just believe. Just like how religious people believe in their religions

Logically speaking life is gray, random and vague. Everything just is, nothing more or less. But fuck logic fam I believe in God and Jesus for life

Sociology actually figured out the consistent moral rules. As social animals, of course we evolved some natural concepts.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2019/02/08/everyone-everywhere-shares-common-moral-code-oxford-university/

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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 11:12:58 PM
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You have all been healed by the power of Jesus

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UnfairRepresent
03/03/21 11:16:32 PM
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This topic is so silly

"Religion gets too much hate "
"Here's along list of reasons to hate religion "
"Yeah but none of that counts!"

Erm..
right

Nemesis from Resident Evil 3 gets too much hate.

Sure he's a giant monster who does nothing but run around the street doing nothing but murder people, but so long as you ignore that, he's a nice guy

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LordYeezus
03/03/21 11:17:00 PM
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People wanna commit crimes without getting scared to go to hell.
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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/03/21 11:17:51 PM
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I wouldn't fuck Jesus, but I bet he wishes I would.

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PMarth2002
03/03/21 11:21:50 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Tl;dr if you believe in good and bad then youre religious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY&ab_channel=playityourway

I'm perfectly capable of thinking nazis are bad without religion being involved for example.

I hate it when religious people claim this kind of bullshit.

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ToPoPO
03/03/21 11:23:32 PM
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Genocide and mass murder is bad, yet your all powerful and all knowing god said t was okay and justified
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El Mexicano Texano
03/03/21 11:25:13 PM
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I'm an atheist and I'm more deserving to go to heaven than several Christians/Catholics I know, the only reason I won't go is because I'm not a believer compared to them I'm an angel. I have one friend that even mocks me and says I might as well be religious since I don't do drugs/drink and rarely curse

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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 11:26:39 PM
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ToPoPO posted...
Genocide and mass murder is bad, yet your all powerful and all knowing god said t was okay and justified

I just assume the very first edition of the Bible was legit and against that shit. Humans just modified that shit to fuck people over

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Scotty_Rogers
03/03/21 11:27:19 PM
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Jesus loves us

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ToPoPO
03/03/21 11:41:12 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
I just assume the very first edition of the Bible was legit and against that shit. Humans just modified that shit to fuck people over

So you're saying that he's not all powerful then
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pure_temper
03/03/21 11:46:55 PM
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El Mexicano Texano posted...
I'm an atheist and I'm more deserving to go to heaven than several Christians/Catholics I know, the only reason I won't go is because I'm not a believer compared to them I'm an angel. I have one friend that even mocks me and says I might as well be religious since I don't do drugs/drink and rarely curse

brother actually the truth is that you will actually go to heaven if you have love in your heart towards life around you and towards the universe. if you are God's child, that's all taht matters my friend. God is honorable and loves all humans

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Flockaveli
03/03/21 11:49:09 PM
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I wish god was real so I could spit in his face.

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pure_temper
03/03/21 11:53:29 PM
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Flockaveli posted...
I wish god was real so I could spit in his face.

why??

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