Poll of the Day > Omg who invented money for real

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I'm confused, you're describing capitalism.

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Veedrock- posted...

I'm confused, you're describing capitalism.

No, there's no money involved. You can barter or take from a general pool.

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just gonna throw this in here

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973653719/california-program-giving-500-no-strings-attached-stipends-pays-off-study-finds

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TheOkHornedRat posted...

Basically jen right now

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ywVHF6Lltac

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I didn't watch it the first time and I'm certainly not watching it the second time

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You sure you didnt? Because I was pretty sure you were quoting it as satire.

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No? I've never seen it.

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Money is simply the universal intermediary.

if mr A fixed mr Bs cave, but mr A doesnt need anything mr B can guve Mr A an iou for later work.

money is just a universal intermediary that you can earn by doing selling goods/services then take to someone else who has something you need for goods and services even when you dont have anything to trade at the moment that Mr. C or d want.

a universal and neutral currency enhances and encourages trade.

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Jen0125 posted...

No? I've never seen it.

TheOkHornedRat posted...

You sure you didnt? Because I was pretty sure you were quoting it as satire.

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Conner4REAL posted...

Money is simply the universal intermediary.

if mr A fixed mr Bs cave, but mr A doesnt need anything mr B can guve Mr A an iou for later work.

money is just a universal intermediary that you can earn by doing selling goods/services then take to someone else who has something you need for goods and services even when you dont have anything to trade at the moment that Mr. C or d want.

a universal and neutral currency enhances and encourages trade.

How does a cave get fixed?
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Revelation34 posted...

How does a cave get fixed?

masonry

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Mead posted...

masonry

Cave porn paintings

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he wanted a glory hole added.

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Conner4REAL posted...

he wanted a glory hole added.

I have a drill let's go

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Jen0125 posted...

We could have all been living in a society where we just use our skills to benefit each other freely but NO

Money

idk, are people really gonna work if you don't pay them? that might be the top reason we need money

Money makes the world go round. Its the basis of human motivation IMO. If we didn't have it we would just revert back to the trade and barter system and things would be more complex I think.

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KazGT6 posted...

idk, are people really gonna work if you don't pay them? that might be the top reason we need money

If you're trading your skills or goods for other goods and skills it's mutually beneficial

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Jen0125 posted...

If you're trading your skills or goods for other goods and skills it's mutually beneficial

eh, what if they don't want any of your skills or any of your goods, then you need something they universally want, like money

KazGT6 posted...

eh, what if they don't want any of your skills or any of your goods, then you need something they universally want, like money

Then you find someone who does?

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Plenty of proof as to why's that always been a terrible fucking idea but ok

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Money will exist on global scale until automation reaches a point where most human workers are displaced and luxury goods are in surplus. At that point a societal shift will be forced. I do not think this will happen in our lifetime. I think Marx was largely right in many of his predictions, just wrong about the timescale in thinking that industrialization would be the big automated shift we needed. It's clear that the technological revolution is going to displace far more people than industrialization.

There are plenty examples of anarchist communes around the world that function on a principal of mutual aid and rely very little, if at all, on money. I've got friends involved in some in California, Washington, Oregon, Colorado, and Hawaii. However, in this modern age, you have to be willing to go without a lot of luxuries you're probably used to if you want to commit to that life.

JigsawTDC posted...

I do not think this will happen in our lifetime.

My bet is still on the 2030s or 2040s for the technological singularity

After that we wont have to worry about things so much. One way or another, our problems will go away.

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Mead posted...

My bet is still on the 2030s or 2040s for the technological singularity

After that we wont have to worry about things so much. One way or another, our problems will go away.

Yep! We'll either live in bountiful bliss as our AI overlords provide for us, or they'll eradicate us like a parasite!

JigsawTDC posted...

Yep! We'll either live in bountiful bliss as our AI overlords provide for us, or they'll eradicate us like a parasite!

what? you really think computers will ever be self aware, and like attack us, etc......?

KazGT6 posted...

what? you really think computers will ever be self aware, and like attack us, etc......?

Well, considering we're talking hypothetically about a future technological singularity which is when artificial intelligence surpasses human intelligence, I think it's a reasonable thing to consider. It's not like it hasn't been explored ad nauseam in our media. And I also proposed a scenario of the exact opposite as well. We don't know how a more advanced intelligence would react towards us. My gut intuition says the most likely scenario is they actually just ignore us and pursue something deeper, kinda like in that movie Her, but we really don't know.

KazGT6 posted...

what? you really think computers will ever be self aware, and like attack us, etc......?

technology is gonna advance to a certain point where we can no longer predict what will happen in the future with any reasonable amount of certainty

the tipping point is simply going to be when someone makes a machine that is independently capable of producing a machine that is slightly more advanced than itself. All bets are off at that point and if things follow the technological trend of the last 60 years or so, then it will happen within the next few decades.

once there actually are artificial entities that have awareness and can problem solve independently, our best options are likely going to be to treat them well and convince them that well make great pets.

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Money was originally invented by Mr. Robert S. Money, after whom it is named.

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TheOkHornedRat posted...

Basically jen right now

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ywVHF6Lltac

That's a perfect 30 second summary of this thread.

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darkknight109 posted...

Money was originally invented by Mr. Robert S. Money, after whom it is named.

Well he's a bitch

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https://youtu.be/Nu4Kvp8Ypso