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Solar_Crimson
03/17/21 9:48:09 AM
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^Topic^


It came up on the Smash board, though that topic was Sephiroth vs. all of Sony (so it was probably a shitpost).

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Naysaspace
03/17/21 9:49:00 AM
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Had no idea who kratos was lol

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Turbam
03/17/21 9:49:02 AM
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Sephiroth, easily.

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Eyeratosthenes
03/17/21 9:50:28 AM
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Kratos, couldn't even tell you what Sephiroth looks like

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ArchNemo
03/17/21 9:52:39 AM
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I want to say Sephiroth but I'm pretty out of touch these days

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gunplagirl
03/17/21 9:54:10 AM
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Sephiroth and it's not even close.

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Eyeratosthenes
03/17/21 3:14:49 PM
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aha

a kratos landslide

just...just as i suspected

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wow okay I'll accept how out of touch I am. I feel like no one irl would know Sephiroth tho

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Choco
03/17/21 5:01:21 PM
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Eyeratosthenes posted...
I feel like no one irl would know Sephiroth tho
true tbh

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ROOTFayth
03/17/21 5:04:02 PM
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huh has to be sephiroth, doesn't seem very close, should have asked between Sephiroth and Ganondorf instead
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Choco
03/17/21 5:05:18 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
should have asked between Sephiroth and Ganondorf instead
lol

why are sonyponies like this

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Solar_Crimson
03/17/21 6:04:33 PM
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Huh. I was under the impression that Kratos was the much more iconic and well-known of the two.

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DeadBankerDream
03/17/21 6:05:36 PM
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Kratos is so iconic he was even in Tales of Symphonia. Sephiroth is only in stupid party games.
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WaterLink
03/17/21 6:06:51 PM
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Seph and it's not even close really.

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Eyeratosthenes
03/17/21 6:09:25 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Huh. I was under the impression that Kratos was the much more iconic and well-known of the two.
People are right in that kratos isn't very iconic, but idk how Sephiroth is either. I looked him up, I've definitely seen him before. I just have a hard time believing Sephiroth is more recognizable (strictly talking outside the internet)

I know one person irl who's played any FF at all and it wasn't 7. I bet I could show kratos to passersby and have more people identify him than they would seph


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WaterLink
03/17/21 6:12:23 PM
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Eyeratosthenes posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
Huh. I was under the impression that Kratos was the much more iconic and well-known of the two.
People are right in that kratos isn't very iconic, but idk how Sephiroth is either. I looked him up, I've definitely seen him before. I just have a hard time believing Sephiroth is more recognizable (strictly talking outside the internet)

I know one person irl who's played any FF at all and it wasn't 7. I bet I could show kratos to passersby and have more people identify him than they would seph


Seph is also in Kibgdom Hearts and Smash Ultimate. And you knowing one person that has played FF, bro do you realize how many people bought FF7 Remake alone in like the first week?
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Chewtarch
03/17/21 6:15:19 PM
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Really fair point on Smash Brothers. Had no idea Sephiroth was in that

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SpiritSephiroth
03/17/21 6:17:18 PM
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FF7 literally defined a genre back in the day and is one of playstations legendary games.

Pile that on with the recent remake, his cameos in various games including smash and kingdom hearts, then of course a lot of people know him.

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Chewtarch
03/17/21 6:18:36 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
FF7 literally defined a genre back in the day and is one of playstations legendary games.

Pile that on with the recent remake, his cameos in various games including smash and kingdom hearts, then of course a lot of people know him.
I just don't see many non-gamers knowing him, I shoulda specified that

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Ilishe
03/17/21 6:19:43 PM
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Sephiroth might be the most iconic video game villain of all time.

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Chewtarch
03/17/21 6:20:21 PM
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Ilishe posted...
Sephiroth might be the most iconic video game villain of all time.
Bowser or Donkey Kong. and it's not even close

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Turbam
03/17/21 6:23:00 PM
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Ilishe posted...
Sephiroth might be the most iconic video game villain of all time.
Nah
Bowser is undeniably the most iconic. Eggman is probably up there as well

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Chewtarch
03/17/21 6:42:19 PM
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Yea I recognize it, but only because I'm a vg enthusiast. It's a mainstay at Video Games Live and I used to go every year

Idk the trope page but I'll check it out sometime tn

I honestly think Sephiroths biggest point comes from smash. I'm not saying Final Fantasy isn't what it used to be, but God of War 4 has a much smaller barrier of entry for western customers than FF imo. Like a lower common denominator type thing

Like I know geriatrics who could probably be like "oh I've seen that guy around" wrt kratos

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ROOTFayth
03/17/21 6:44:08 PM
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Choco posted...
lol

why are sonyponies like this
pardon me?
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ROOTFayth
03/17/21 6:45:56 PM
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Chewtarch posted...
I just don't see many non-gamers knowing him, I shoulda specified that
to be fair non-gamer also don't know Kratos

the only characters non-gamers know are like Mario, Bowser maybe and Pikachu? most non-gamers don't even know who Link is
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34_ShaqRule_34
03/17/21 6:46:28 PM
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No one knows who Sephiroth is anymore

More people if you ask will know Kratos
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WaterLink
03/17/21 7:08:32 PM
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34_ShaqRule_34 posted...
No one knows who Sephiroth is anymore

More people if you ask will know Kratos

Citation needed. Anecdotal evidence doesn't count
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Chewtarch
03/17/21 7:10:16 PM
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Poll could have stood to have 1 vote per IP. Not that it wouldn't still be so lopsided, but I am quite curious now

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34_ShaqRule_34
03/17/21 7:14:10 PM
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WaterLink posted...


Citation needed. Anecdotal evidence doesn't count


Only boomers know what FF7 is anymore or cares
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electricbugs2
03/17/21 7:14:16 PM
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I knew who Sephiroth was before I even played a FF game because of old flash animations and primitive shit posts.

No non gamers know who Kratos is unless your talking the mythological aspect.

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Chewtarch
03/17/21 7:15:27 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
No non gamers know who Kratos is unless your talking the mythological aspect.
This just plain isn't true, but IIRC you primarily hang w/ 16 yo girls so I guess I buy you thinking that

And no non-gamers know Seph

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electricbugs2
03/17/21 7:16:29 PM
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Chewtarch posted...
This just plain isn't true, but IIRC you primarily hang w/ 16 yo girls so I guess I buy you thinking that

And no non-gamers know Seph
Wow you sure showed me!

Work on your insults bud.

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AlisLandale
03/17/21 7:18:20 PM
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Id be surprised if most people knew Sephiroth over Kratos these days if only because the weeb demographic isnt as big in gaming as it used to be, and Kratos just recently had one of the most popular entries in his franchise.

Then again, Sephiroth in Smash probably changed that. Idk >_>

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SpiritSephiroth
03/17/21 7:18:22 PM
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Chewtarch posted...
I honestly think Sephiroths biggest point comes from smash.

How old are you? Not insulting you just a genuine question. If you're a younger gamer then you probably weren't in the industry when there was a boom with the ps1 with FF7 literally everywhere and dominating even generations afterwards.

If you're an older gamer, then maybe I dunno, you probably missed the hype I think.

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Chewtarch
03/17/21 7:19:09 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
How old are you? Not insulting you just a genuine question. If you're a younger gamer then you probably weren't in the industry when there was a boom with the ps1 with FF7 literally everywhere and dominating even generations afterwards.

If you're an older gamer, then maybe I dunno, you probably missed the hype I think.
I'm 28. All I'm saying is I think Seph is more niche

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electricbugs2
03/17/21 7:19:48 PM
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Chewtarch posted...
I'm 28
Definitely full of shit then. Got it.

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Turbam
03/17/21 7:19:54 PM
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34_ShaqRule_34 posted...
Only boomers know what FF7 is anymore or cares


Clock is ticking, zoomer

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WaterLink
03/17/21 7:24:36 PM
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34_ShaqRule_34 posted...
Only boomers know what FF7 is anymore or cares

If you showed everyone in the world a picture of Kratos and Seph, my money would be on Seph being recognized more. In certain age groups and locations, even maybe your particular friend group, Kratos might win, but overall I think it's still Seph that comes out ahead here. He's been a figure of gaming for almost a decade longer for one, and has been in Smash and FF7R so he's still relevant today

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34_ShaqRule_34
03/17/21 7:25:08 PM
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WaterLink posted...


If you showed everyone in the world a picture of Kratos and Seph, my money would be on Seph being recognized more. In certain age groups and locations, even maybe your particular friend group, Kratos might win, but overall I think it's still Seph that comes out ahead here. He's been a figure of gaming for almost a decade longer for one, and has been in Smash and FF7R so he's still relevant today


100% hard disagree

This isn't 2003 anymore
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electricbugs2
03/17/21 7:25:30 PM
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34_ShaqRule_34 posted...
100% hard disagree

This isn't 2003 anymore
The remake just came out bro lmfao.

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Solid Snake07
03/17/21 7:26:09 PM
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Probably Sephiroth. Pretty well known in both eastern and western cultures

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34_ShaqRule_34
03/17/21 7:26:09 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...

The remake just came out bro lmfao.


So? Casuals didn't buy that game.
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WaterLink
03/17/21 7:26:49 PM
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34_ShaqRule_34 posted...
100% hard disagree

This isn't 2003 anymore

You're entitled to that, I mean there's no real way to prove it.

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electricbugs2
03/17/21 7:27:15 PM
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34_ShaqRule_34 posted...
So? Casuals didn't buy that game.
Casuals didnt buy God of War either -_-

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ROOTFayth
03/17/21 7:27:48 PM
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34_ShaqRule_34 posted...
So? Casuals didn't buy that game.
my friend did and he's pretty fuckin casual and had never played a final fantasy before
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AlisLandale
03/17/21 7:28:02 PM
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Sephiroth was definitely one of, if not the biggest villain of his era. But time marches on.

Gun Smoke went on for 20 seasons and almost nobody today is going to remember Matt Dillon.

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