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EmbraceOfDeath 03/17/21 8:50:19 PM #51:	Damn_Underscore posted... The fact that you think they are mutually exclusive is the problem. Ah yes, accepting absurd things without evidence unquestionably is totally reconcilable with science where the methodology is to do everything you can to try to disprove your assumptions. --- PSN/GT: BigDaffej <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:951823638] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>The fact that you think they are mutually exclusive is the problem.</quote>Ah yes, accepting absurd things without evidence unquestionably is totally reconcilable with science where the methodology is to do everything you can to try to disprove your assumptions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 03/17/21 8:51:55 PM #52:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... Ah yes, accepting absurd things without evidence unquestionably is totally reconcilable with science where the methodology is to do everything you can to try to disprove your assumptions. Biden is splitting the waters with the raise of his palm. It's real. --- I am super duper woke. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:951823701] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted... </cite> <quote>Ah yes, accepting absurd things without evidence unquestionably is totally reconcilable with science where the methodology is to do everything you can to try to disprove your assumptions.</quote>Biden is splitting the waters with the raise of his palm. It's real. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/17/21 8:53:57 PM #53:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... Ah yes, accepting absurd things without evidence unquestionably is totally reconcilable with science where the methodology is to do everything you can to try to disprove your assumptions. Right, the same reason why science is incompatible with philosophy and opinions. --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:951823773] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted... </cite> <quote>Ah yes, accepting absurd things without evidence unquestionably is totally reconcilable with science where the methodology is to do everything you can to try to disprove your assumptions.</quote> Right, the same reason why science is incompatible with philosophy and opinions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 03/17/21 8:54:53 PM #54:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... Ah yes, accepting absurd things without evidence unquestionably is totally reconcilable with science where the methodology is to do everything you can to try to disprove your assumptions. I guess philosophy is incompatible with science too --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. <cite>David1988 posted [p:951823810] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted... </cite> <quote>Ah yes, accepting absurd things without evidence unquestionably is totally reconcilable with science where the methodology is to do everything you can to try to disprove your assumptions.</quote> I guess philosophy is incompatible with science too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RustyFerret 03/17/21 8:56:57 PM #55:	Dark_SilverX posted... Biden is splitting the waters with the raise of his palm. It's real. He can clip through microphones like a video game, it's crazy. <cite>RustyFerret posted [p:951823901] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Dark_SilverX posted... </cite> <quote>Biden is splitting the waters with the raise of his palm. It's real.</quote>He can clip through microphones like a video game, it's crazy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 9:06:51 PM #56:	RustyFerret posted... New Atheist activists did a good job pushing the interpretation that they are. In retrospect, new atheism was a disaster and a dumpster fire of poor unsophisticated thinking. It's also not surprising to me to find out the famous ones (like Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, etc) are pets to the ultra rich. My personal theory is that they were just trying to stunt solidarity between workers by giving society an atheism vs religions debate that most people in a wealthy progressivizing country wouldn't otherwise have cared about. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951824237] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>RustyFerret posted... </cite> <quote>New Atheist activists did a good job pushing the interpretation that they are.</quote> In retrospect, new atheism was a disaster and a dumpster fire of poor unsophisticated thinking. It's also not surprising to me to find out the famous ones (like Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, etc) are pets to the ultra rich. My personal theory is that they were just trying to stunt solidarity between workers by giving society an atheism vs religions debate that most people in a wealthy progressivizing country wouldn't otherwise have cared about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/17/21 10:39:07 PM #57:	bump. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951827567] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>bump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MKScorpion 03/17/21 10:52:59 PM #58:	The sooner ALL religions are eradicated the better the human race will be. --- #BringBackKI <cite>MKScorpion posted [p:951828006] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>The sooner ALL religions are eradicated the better the human race will be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 10:54:19 PM #59:	MKScorpion posted... The sooner ALL religions are eradicated the better the human race will be. wasn't that what they said in the Soviet Union and Mao's China? right before they used tanks to crush students to death during Tiananmen Square in 1989? hint: yes it was plz don't use charged language like that if that was not your intention, but you're spreading bigotry --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951828050] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>MKScorpion posted... </cite> <quote>The sooner ALL religions are eradicated the better the human race will be.</quote> wasn't that what they said in the Soviet Union and Mao's China? right before they used tanks to crush students to death during Tiananmen Square in 1989? hint: yes it was plz don't use charged language like that if that was not your intention, but you're spreading bigotry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 10:55:33 PM #60:	and not only are you spreading bigotry, you're inadvertently trying to disrupt the last bastion of solidarity that could be achieved before climate change devours us and we nuke ourselves MLK and Malcom X (post-Mecca) are proof of this. They were both assassinated and people like them (Marxist theists) get killed all the time because in history and even right now, the majority case for these people is that they're usually assassinated or excluded from society. new atheism had its chance. these graphs i saw in the TC's post are not optimistic at all. Richard Dawkins and lawrence krauss only served to pollute the well of solidarity between literally 99.9999% of 8 billion people on earth including most Americans. down with the false gods. those are the only religions we need to tax out of existence or legislate out of existence. the addiction to fossil fuels and immense love for money and the power to exploit. tax the fuckin billionaire class. and their religion which is money. 20% wealth tax for anyone over $10 billion. and if they're royalty like the monarchs in the UK? just seize hteir assets and leave them with a couple million for retirement. tax em. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951828099] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>and not only are you spreading bigotry, you're inadvertently trying to disrupt the last bastion of solidarity that could be achieved before climate change devours us and we nuke ourselves MLK and Malcom X (post-Mecca) are proof of this. They were both assassinated and people like them (Marxist theists) get killed all the time because in history and even right now, the majority case for these people is that they're usually assassinated or excluded from society. new atheism had its chance. these graphs i saw in the TC's post are not optimistic at all. Richard Dawkins and lawrence krauss only served to pollute the well of solidarity between literally 99.9999% of 8 billion people on earth including most Americans. down with the false gods. those are the only religions we need to tax out of existence or legislate out of existence. the addiction to fossil fuels and immense love for money and the power to exploit. tax the fuckin billionaire class. and their religion which is money. 20% wealth tax for anyone over $10 billion. and if they're royalty like the monarchs in the UK? just seize hteir assets and leave them with a couple million for retirement. tax em. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RustyFerret 03/17/21 10:56:56 PM #61:	pure_temper posted... In retrospect, new atheism was a disaster and a dumpster fire of poor unsophisticated thinking. It's also not surprising to me to find out the famous ones (like Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, etc) are pets to the ultra rich. My personal theory is that they were just trying to stunt solidarity between workers by giving society an atheism vs religions debate that most people in a wealthy progressivizing country wouldn't otherwise have cared about. Well I don't know of any poor scientists, so maybe. New Atheism was also a weird reaction to 9/11. Instead of attributing partial blame to american imperialism and foreign policy as big factor in why an islamic extremist group decided to attack us, they just used it as an excuse to bash christianity. <cite>RustyFerret posted [p:951828142] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>In retrospect, new atheism was a disaster and a dumpster fire of poor unsophisticated thinking. It's also not surprising to me to find out the famous ones (like Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, etc) are pets to the ultra rich. My personal theory is that they were just trying to stunt solidarity between workers by giving society an atheism vs religions debate that most people in a wealthy progressivizing country wouldn't otherwise have cared about.</quote>Well I don't know of any poor scientists, so maybe. New Atheism was also a weird reaction to 9/11. Instead of attributing partial blame to american imperialism and foreign policy as big factor in why an islamic extremist group decided to attack us, they just used it as an excuse to bash christianity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 10:59:10 PM #62:	RustyFerret posted... Well I don't know of any poor scientists, so maybe. New Atheism was also a weird reaction to 9/11. Instead of attributing partial blame to american imperialism and foreign policy as big factor in why an islamic extremist group decided to attack us, they just used it as an excuse to bash christianity. I could be convinced that the problem wasn't Islamic extremism, but a ploy to have private military contractor groups profit from deployments around the world in the wake of conflict. Like how the first Iron Man movie described. Islam is fundamentally a religion of peace. when understood at its most charitable. The proof is in what happened to Malcom X and people like him after they went to Mecca and found that path. the same is true for Christianity in MLK. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951828211] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>RustyFerret posted... </cite> <quote>Well I don't know of any poor scientists, so maybe. New Atheism was also a weird reaction to 9/11. Instead of attributing partial blame to american imperialism and foreign policy as big factor in why an islamic extremist group decided to attack us, they just used it as an excuse to bash christianity.</quote> I could be convinced that the problem wasn't Islamic extremism, but a ploy to have private military contractor groups profit from deployments around the world in the wake of conflict. Like how the first Iron Man movie described. Islam is fundamentally a religion of peace. when understood at its most charitable. The proof is in what happened to Malcom X and people like him after they went to Mecca and found that path. the same is true for Christianity in MLK. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MKScorpion 03/17/21 11:04:51 PM #63:	pure_temper posted... wasn't that what they said in the Soviet Union and Mao's China? right before they used tanks to crush students to death during Tiananmen Square in 1989? hint: yes it was plz don't use charged language like that if that was not your intention, but you're spreading bigotry I don't care what they said, im not them. I don't want to kill anybody and I don't want to see anybody get killed, I just said the sooner religion is gone the better and I stand by it. "Eradicate" was a poor choice of words. Seeing younger generations not be religious and me being happy about it is just fine. If me hating religion makes me a bigot then I guess im a bigot. --- #BringBackKI <cite>MKScorpion posted [p:951828388] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>wasn't that what they said in the Soviet Union and Mao's China? right before they used tanks to crush students to death during Tiananmen Square in 1989? hint: yes it was plz don't use charged language like that if that was not your intention, but you're spreading bigotry</quote> I don't care what they said, im not them. I don't want to kill anybody and I don't want to see anybody get killed, I just said the sooner religion is gone the better and I stand by it. "Eradicate" was a poor choice of words. Seeing younger generations not be religious and me being happy about it is just fine. If me hating religion makes me a bigot then I guess im a bigot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 11:07:09 PM #64:	MKScorpion posted... I don't care what they said, im not them. I don't want to kill anybody and I don't want to see anybody get killed, I just said the sooner religion is gone the better and I stand by it. Seeing younger generations not being religious and me being happy about it is just fine. If me hating religion makes me a bigot then ill be a bigot. do you hate MLK or Malcom X (post-Mecca and I keep saying it because there was a major change in his story taht most ppl never read about, so they only hear the bad propaganda about him) what do you make of how they approached religion? because if you hate that, you're actually hating people, aren't you? --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951828457] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>MKScorpion posted... </cite> <quote>I don't care what they said, im not them. I don't want to kill anybody and I don't want to see anybody get killed, I just said the sooner religion is gone the better and I stand by it. Seeing younger generations not being religious and me being happy about it is just fine. If me hating religion makes me a bigot then ill be a bigot.</quote> do you hate MLK or Malcom X (post-Mecca and I keep saying it because there was a major change in his story taht most ppl never read about, so they only hear the bad propaganda about him) what do you make of how they approached religion? because if you hate that, you're actually hating people, aren't you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MKScorpion 03/17/21 11:09:56 PM #65:	pure_temper posted... do you hate MLK or Malcom X (post-Mecca and I keep saying it because there was a major change in his story taht most ppl never read about, so they only hear the bad propaganda about him) what do you make of how they approached religion? because if you hate that, you're actually hating people, aren't you? I don't hate people, I hate religion. There are plenty of religious people that I know that are fine people. It's the higher up people exploiting it to control people I have a problem with. --- #BringBackKI <cite>MKScorpion posted [p:951828543] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>do you hate MLK or Malcom X (post-Mecca and I keep saying it because there was a major change in his story taht most ppl never read about, so they only hear the bad propaganda about him) what do you make of how they approached religion? because if you hate that, you're actually hating people, aren't you?</quote> I don't hate people, I hate religion. There are plenty of religious people that I know that are fine people. It's the higher up people exploiting it to control people I have a problem with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 03/17/21 11:11:12 PM #66:	People need some sort of spirituality or values, even if it's not conventional religions. Otherwise you start worshipping celebrities or politicians and that's not very healthy On the other hand, extreme beliefs in values such as nationalism, patriotism, statism, secularism, or religion can also lead to violence, as one becomes unsettled by beliefs contrary to the reigning orthodoxy and strikes out violently to protect communal values. There needs to be a balance of sorts and TBH most people aren't quite getting one nowadays --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:951828579] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>People need some sort of spirituality or values, even if it's not conventional religions. Otherwise you start worshipping celebrities or politicians and that's not very healthy On the other hand, extreme beliefs in values such as nationalism, patriotism, statism, secularism, or religion can also lead to violence, as one becomes unsettled by beliefs contrary to the reigning orthodoxy and strikes out violently to protect communal values. There needs to be a balance of sorts and TBH most people aren't quite getting one nowadays </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kelystic 03/17/21 11:12:10 PM #67:	maybe humans finally got smarter --- https://imgur.com/xNf1K9h <cite>Kelystic posted [p:951828609] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>maybe humans finally got smarter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 03/17/21 11:12:45 PM #68:	pure_temper posted... Yes, and yes. On the first one, I consider it much more probable that aliens will have found earth first, since humanity is still a fledgling species that is only recently coming into its element. When that happens, if we are alive to see it I think we'll also see a resurgence of religious beliefs with the world's religions just saying their holy figures were obviously members of whatever that civilization or species is. See I disagree because relativity. We haven't found aliens within 100 light years of us. Therefore, there are likely no aliens within 100 light years of us. How far can we look? How far is it reasonable to think they can look? Aliens may exist 1 million light years away from Earth and could be looking here as I type this. As far as they can see, we literally don't exist yet... That's why I believe no connection will ever be made... but I do agree with you on universal scope and plausibility and even likelihood of other somewhere out there. Statistically, i just makes sense. I just believe it's too far away for contact to ever be feasible. --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. <cite>Machete posted [p:951828624] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted...</cite> <quote> Yes, and yes. On the first one, I consider it much more probable that aliens will have found earth first, since humanity is still a fledgling species that is only recently coming into its element. When that happens, if we are alive to see it I think we'll also see a resurgence of religious beliefs with the world's religions just saying their holy figures were obviously members of whatever that civilization or species is. </quote> See I disagree because relativity. We haven't found aliens within 100 light years of us. Therefore, there are likely no aliens within 100 light years of us. How far can we look? How far is it reasonable to think they can look? Aliens may exist 1 million light years away from Earth and could be looking here as I type this. As far as they can see, we literally don't exist yet... That's why I believe no connection will ever be made... but I do agree with you on universal scope and plausibility and even likelihood of other somewhere out there. Statistically, i just makes sense. I just believe it's too far away for contact to ever be feasible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 11:14:36 PM #69:	MKScorpion posted... I don't hate people, I hate religion. There are plenty of religious people that I know that are fine people. It's the higher up people exploiting it to control people I have a problem with. Very good we fundamentally agree then. <3 --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951828695] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>MKScorpion posted... </cite> <quote>I don't hate people, I hate religion. There are plenty of religious people that I know that are fine people. It's the higher up people exploiting it to control people I have a problem with.</quote> Very good we fundamentally agree then. <3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 11:16:18 PM #70:	AvantgardeAClue posted... People need some sort of spirituality or values, even if it's not conventional religions. Otherwise you start worshipping celebrities or politicians and that's not very healthy On the other hand, extreme beliefs in values such as nationalism, patriotism, statism, secularism, or religion can also lead to violence, as one becomes unsettled by beliefs contrary to the reigning orthodoxy and strikes out violently to protect communal values. There needs to be a balance of sorts and TBH most people aren't quite getting one nowadays Very wise perspective. And I agree with you 100% too. Kelystic posted... maybe humans finally got smarter people have always been fairly smart at adopting the latest in science every 25 years or so. for example we're almost at the point where nobody even debates evolution anymore because no one cares. and over these phases religions have gone up and down in importance to societies. same will happen with us most likely. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951828750] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>AvantgardeAClue posted... </cite> <quote>People need some sort of spirituality or values, even if it's not conventional religions. Otherwise you start worshipping celebrities or politicians and that's not very healthy On the other hand, extreme beliefs in values such as nationalism, patriotism, statism, secularism, or religion can also lead to violence, as one becomes unsettled by beliefs contrary to the reigning orthodoxy and strikes out violently to protect communal values. There needs to be a balance of sorts and TBH most people aren't quite getting one nowadays</quote> Very wise perspective. And I agree with you 100% too. Kelystic posted... </cite> <quote>maybe humans finally got smarter</quote> people have always been fairly smart at adopting the latest in science every 25 years or so. for example we're almost at the point where nobody even debates evolution anymore because no one cares. and over these phases religions have gone up and down in importance to societies. same will happen with us most likely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 11:18:51 PM #71:	Machete posted... See I disagree because relativity. We haven't found aliens within 100 light years of us. Therefore, there are likely no aliens within 100 light years of us. How far can we look? How far is it reasonable to think they can look? Aliens may exist 1 million light years away from Earth and could be looking here as I type this. As far as they can see, we literally don't exist yet... That's why I believe no connection will ever be made... but I do agree with you on universal scope and plausibility and even likelihood of other somewhere out there. Statistically, i just makes sense. I just believe it's too far away for contact to ever be feasible. Our own existence is either engineered or arbitrary. If it's arbitrary, then by chance we could have had an arbitrary occurrence of humans-like shortly after the universe came to exist. and if they got at least as far as us, they may have succeded in moving to the top of that scale I keep talking about. which means that until we know for sure that a fundamental rule of reality disproves the concept of Interstellar (the part with the ~~wormhole and ftl travel.~~) then it's a possibility that our own knowledge is the gap here. we have not yet found any roadblocks in science that I am aware of to why we wouldn't one day be able to dominate the entire universe if we just had the time to push tech to its pinnacle ;) --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951828832] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>See I disagree because relativity. We haven't found aliens within 100 light years of us. Therefore, there are likely no aliens within 100 light years of us. How far can we look? How far is it reasonable to think they can look? Aliens may exist 1 million light years away from Earth and could be looking here as I type this. As far as they can see, we literally don't exist yet... That's why I believe no connection will ever be made... but I do agree with you on universal scope and plausibility and even likelihood of other somewhere out there. Statistically, i just makes sense. I just believe it's too far away for contact to ever be feasible.</quote> Our own existence is either engineered or arbitrary. If it's arbitrary, then by chance we could have had an arbitrary occurrence of humans-like shortly after the universe came to exist. and if they got at least as far as us, they may have succeded in moving to the top of that scale I keep talking about. which means that until we know for sure that a fundamental rule of reality disproves the concept of Interstellar (the part with the wormhole and ftl travel.) then it's a possibility that our own knowledge is the gap here. we have not yet found any roadblocks in science that I am aware of to why we wouldn't one day be able to dominate the entire universe if we just had the time to push tech to its pinnacle ;) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/17/21 11:27:55 PM #72:	MKScorpion posted... I don't hate people, I hate religion. There are plenty of religious people that I know that are fine people. It's the higher up people exploiting it to control people I have a problem with. So you do hate people. Religion is fundamentally the belief in the divine/supernatural elements that make up our universe. How people manipulate religion and religious people for their own benefit has no effect on God's existence or the nature of God. If you don't actually hate religion then there is no reason why you should dismiss it. --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:951829126] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>MKScorpion posted... </cite> <quote>I don't hate people, I hate religion. There are plenty of religious people that I know that are fine people. It's the higher up people exploiting it to control people I have a problem with.</quote> So you do hate people. Religion is fundamentally the belief in the divine/supernatural elements that make up our universe. How people manipulate religion and religious people for their own benefit has no effect on God's existence or the nature of God. If you don't actually hate religion then there is no reason why you should dismiss it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnvoyOfTheLight 03/17/21 11:32:52 PM #73:	Religion is fundamentally the belief in the divine/supernatural elements that make up our universe. It's not.. Much humanism, and the old oldschool Scientism, for example. And good luck separating the religious aspect from the sovereign entity that is the Holy See. --- i horf and i <cite>EnvoyOfTheLight posted [p:951829268] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote><quote>Religion is fundamentally the belief in the divine/supernatural elements that make up our universe. </quote> It's not.. Much humanism, and the old oldschool Scientism, for example. And good luck separating the religious aspect from the sovereign entity that is the Holy See. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/17/21 11:34:50 PM #74:	Since when is Roman Catholicism the only religion? --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:951829318] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Since when is Roman Catholicism the only religion? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnvoyOfTheLight 03/17/21 11:37:38 PM #75:	Damn_Underscore posted... Since when is Roman Catholicism the only religion? Not sure how you came to the conclusion that anyone said that. --- i horf and i <cite>EnvoyOfTheLight posted [p:951829415] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>Since when is Roman Catholicism the only religion?</quote> Not sure how you came to the conclusion that anyone said that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/17/21 11:42:52 PM #76:	"Good luck separating the religious aspect from the sovereign entity that is the Holy See" Yes for most people religion is more than just the belief in God, but you can't seriously think that believing in God is OK but anything beyond that (i.e. defining one's belief in God) is going too far. If you're against people or organizations that use religion for personal/political gain then great. But that is not the same thing as thinking "The sooner ALL religions are eradicated the better the human race will be." --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:951829573] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>"Good luck separating the religious aspect from the sovereign entity that is the Holy See" Yes for most people religion is more than just the belief in God, but you can't seriously think that believing in God is OK but anything beyond that (i.e. defining one's belief in God) is going too far. If you're against people or organizations that use religion for personal/political gain then great. But that is not the same thing as thinking "The sooner ALL religions are eradicated the better the human race will be." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourLovelyTina 03/17/21 11:43:50 PM #77:	the unholy marriage that mainstream American Christianity made with the POS Republican Party back in the 80s certainly hasn't done them any favors, either... --- CONGRATULATIONS! You have saved your lovely Tina. Yattane Takahashi! <cite>YourLovelyTina posted [p:951829602] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>the unholy marriage that mainstream American Christianity made with the POS Republican Party back in the 80s certainly hasn't done them any favors, either... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 03/17/21 11:47:24 PM #78:	I'll always believe in God and Jesus. --- FAM FOREVER <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:951829725] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>I'll always believe in God and Jesus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 03/17/21 11:48:19 PM #79:	ZannoL posted... The republican party is largely to blame. Some of the most corrupt people in power identify as "religious" and "conservative." Younger people see that and want to distance themselves from it all. A bit bigger than just them. This has been a trend and a problem in the west for a couple hundred years now. <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:951829753] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>ZannoL posted... </cite> <quote>The republican party is largely to blame. Some of the most corrupt people in power identify as "religious" and "conservative." Younger people see that and want to distance themselves from it all.</quote>A bit bigger than just them. This has been a trend and a problem in the west for a couple hundred years now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flockaveli 03/17/21 11:48:50 PM #80:	Only Satan is real. --- I'm in Chicago, I'm shaking my head. <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:951829765] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Only Satan is real. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/18/21 12:00:57 AM #81:	YourLovelyTina posted... the unholy marriage that mainstream American Christianity made with the POS Republican Party back in the 80s certainly hasn't done them any favors, either... yeah it's an abomination. done by the billionaire class (see: Kenneth Copeland) to make sure solidarity slows down so they could keep exploiting. prior to that everyone who was Christian would've been more like Jesus or like MLK --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951830110] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>YourLovelyTina posted... </cite> <quote>the unholy marriage that mainstream American Christianity made with the POS Republican Party back in the 80s certainly hasn't done them any favors, either...</quote> yeah it's an abomination. done by the billionaire class (see: Kenneth Copeland) to make sure solidarity slows down so they could keep exploiting. prior to that everyone who was Christian would've been more like Jesus or like MLK </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/18/21 12:02:10 AM #82:	Organized religion should be dismantled. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951830141] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Organized religion should be dismantled. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/18/21 12:09:44 AM #83:	hockeybub89 posted... Organized religion should be dismantled. second bad take you've made in the span of 5 minutes the truth is: the billionaires should be taxed until there are no more billionaires. they can be billionaires after we've improved society to a utopia for everyone. no more royalty, imo. wealth tax 10% on $1 billion or higher. tax Joel Olsteen and Kennet Copeland and his crony friends but going after the concept of a religion having a presence in society at all, is just to attack bastions of solidarity that are way more progressive than the Reaganomics that still pollutes brains. it's the billionaires, bruh. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951830332] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Organized religion should be dismantled.</quote> second bad take you've made in the span of 5 minutes the truth is: the billionaires should be taxed until there are no more billionaires. they can be billionaires after we've improved society to a utopia for everyone. no more royalty, imo. wealth tax 10% on $1 billion or higher. tax Joel Olsteen and Kennet Copeland and his crony friends but going after the concept of a religion having a presence in society at all, is just to attack bastions of solidarity that are way more progressive than the Reaganomics that still pollutes brains. it's the billionaires, bruh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnvoyOfTheLight 03/18/21 3:22:19 AM #84:	Damn_Underscore posted... "Good luck separating the religious aspect from the sovereign entity that is the Holy See" Yes for most people religion is more than just the belief in God, but you can't seriously think that believing in God is OK but anything beyond that (i.e. defining one's belief in God) is going too far. If you're against people or organizations that use religion for personal/political gain then great. But that is not the same thing as thinking "The sooner ALL religions are eradicated the better the human race will be." You are replying to someone, but it isn't me, so I think you quoted the wrong guy. --- i horf and i <cite>EnvoyOfTheLight posted [p:951834114] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>"Good luck separating the religious aspect from the sovereign entity that is the Holy See" Yes for most people religion is more than just the belief in God, but you can't seriously think that believing in God is OK but anything beyond that (i.e. defining one's belief in God) is going too far. If you're against people or organizations that use religion for personal/political gain then great. But that is not the same thing as thinking "The sooner ALL religions are eradicated the better the human race will be."</quote> You are replying to someone, but it isn't me, so I think you quoted the wrong guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 03/18/21 3:29:31 AM #85:	DeadBankerDream posted... I thought Islam was in such high increase that it overcame the decline in religion of other areas for a total increase in religiousness rather than decrease in the world. Well thats because it is. According to all known statistics, that's the case. The article TC posted only talks about the US for some reason, but it started out with "around the world" which is weird. EDIT: yea, I just looked it up. The article TC linked to linked to another article that it cited from, and even that, said Muslims were not included in the decline. This trend has been spreading to the rest of the world, with one major exception. The populations of the 18 Muslim-majority countries for which data are available in the World Values Survey have stayed far below the tipping point, remaining strongly religious and committed to preserving traditional norms concerning gender and fertility. Even controlling for economic development, Muslim-majority countries tend to be somewhat more religious and culturally conservative than average. I just had to enter my email to see the rest of article. You're welcome. --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:951834208] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>I thought Islam was in such high increase that it overcame the decline in religion of other areas for a total increase in religiousness rather than decrease in the world.</quote>Well thats because it is. According to all known statistics, that's the case. The article TC posted only talks about the US for some reason, but it started out with "around the world" which is weird. EDIT: yea, I just looked it up. The article TC linked to linked to another article that it cited from, and even that, said Muslims were not included in the decline. <quote>This trend has been spreading to the rest of the world, with one major exception. The populations of the 18 Muslim-majority countries for which data are available in the World Values Survey have stayed far below the tipping point, remaining strongly religious and committed to preserving traditional norms concerning gender and fertility. Even controlling for economic development, Muslim-majority countries tend to be somewhat more religious and culturally conservative than average.</quote>I just had to enter my email to see the rest of article. You're welcome. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/18/21 9:17:15 AM #86:	EnvoyOfTheLight posted... You are replying to someone, but it isn't me, so I think you quoted the wrong guy. Im replying to both you and the other guy --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:951839463] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>EnvoyOfTheLight posted... </cite> <quote>You are replying to someone, but it isn't me, so I think you quoted the wrong guy.</quote> Im replying to both you and the other guy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KyerWiz 03/18/21 9:42:58 AM #87:	In an era of information, organized religions relying on revelations written over a thousand years ago are fighting a losing game. That's the problem with faith in a Divine Truth, once an individual starts to doubt one thing, they will inevitably doubt others. Adam and Eve makes absolutely no sense with modern understanding. So either they reject reality to cling to their fantasy or they start making concessions. "Well, it's more about the symbolism..." But if that one was symbolism, could others be symbolism too? Did Noah really build an Ark? Did Moses really part the Red Sea? ...did Jesus really perform miracles? In my opinion (and do take it with a block of salt as I've never been a religious person), organized religions need to shift away their focus from "explaining how the world works". They already promote a set of moral values, there's really no need to insist that Jesus saved everyone by being crucified to say that self-sacrifice for the sake of others is virtuous. <cite>KyerWiz posted [p:951840099] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>In an era of information, organized religions relying on revelations written over a thousand years ago are fighting a losing game. That's the problem with faith in a Divine Truth, once an individual starts to doubt one thing, they will inevitably doubt others. Adam and Eve makes absolutely no sense with modern understanding. So either they reject reality to cling to their fantasy or they start making concessions. "Well, it's more about the symbolism..." But if that one was symbolism, could others be symbolism too? Did Noah really build an Ark? Did Moses really part the Red Sea? ...did Jesus really perform miracles? In my opinion (and do take it with a block of salt as I've never been a religious person), organized religions need to shift away their focus from "explaining how the world works". They already promote a set of moral values, there's really no need to insist that Jesus saved everyone by being crucified to say that self-sacrifice for the sake of others is virtuous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 03/18/21 9:47:29 AM #88:	Hop103 posted... What we need are suitable replacements for religion, because hyperpartisan politics, the current replacement is a horrible replacement for religion. anime and videogames --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta/hungry ghost Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:951840215] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>What we need are suitable replacements for religion, because hyperpartisan politics, the current replacement is a horrible replacement for religion.</quote>anime and videogames </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 03/18/21 9:52:33 AM #89:	good --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:951840358] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 03/18/21 10:56:59 AM #90:	nfearurspecimn posted... anime and videogames Brand and corporate worship are arguably worse than organized religion. --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:951842342] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>nfearurspecimn posted... </cite> <quote>anime and videogames</quote>Brand and corporate worship are arguably worse than organized religion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cucumber21 03/18/21 11:15:26 AM #91:	This is disappointing news. How are people going to have morality with religion? --- Connoisseur of MAGA culture <cite>Cucumber21 posted [p:951842843] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>This is disappointing news. How are people going to have morality with religion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdmiralStiff 03/18/21 11:45:14 AM #92:	MushroomMuncher posted... Brand and corporate worship are arguably worse than organized religion. They are the same shit bar empty promises, you get a vapid experience instead But hey, at least is something you can hoard --- You may block me, report me even but you can't unsmell my ass <cite>AdmiralStiff posted [p:951843736] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>MushroomMuncher posted... </cite> <quote>Brand and corporate worship are arguably worse than organized religion.</quote>They are the same shit bar empty promises, you get a vapid experience instead But hey, at least is something you can hoard </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lemondrop7 03/18/21 11:49:35 AM #93:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... Ah yes, accepting absurd things without evidence unquestionably is totally reconcilable with science where the methodology is to do everything you can to try to disprove your assumptions. it would likely blow your mind how many accomplished scientists believe in a higher power...in 2009 it was 51% of members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (you have to be a recognized scientist to be a member) who believed in a higher power. but i would guess physicists are the most likely to believe in some type of external force on the universe, a higher power in some capacity. maybe its god..maybe its the dmt aliens..maybe its something else --- This signature is used so that my one line posts aren't swept into the wedge of you wall of text wankers <cite>lemondrop7 posted [p:951843886] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted... </cite> <quote>Ah yes, accepting absurd things without evidence unquestionably is totally reconcilable with science where the methodology is to do everything you can to try to disprove your assumptions.</quote> it would likely blow your mind how many accomplished scientists believe in a higher power...in 2009 it was 51% of members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (you have to be a recognized scientist to be a member) who believed in a higher power. but i would guess physicists are the most likely to believe in some type of external force on the universe, a higher power in some capacity. maybe its god..maybe its the dmt aliens..maybe its something else </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/18/21 11:50:04 AM #94:	AdmiralStiff posted... They are the same shit bar empty promises, you get a vapid experience instead But hey, at least is something you can hoard If you think religion/theology is a vapid experience you were not taught it properly or possibly never learned it at all. --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:951843900] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>AdmiralStiff posted... </cite> <quote>They are the same shit bar empty promises, you get a vapid experience instead But hey, at least is something you can hoard</quote> If you think religion/theology is a vapid experience you were not taught it properly or possibly never learned it at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 03/18/21 11:50:20 AM #95:	AdmiralStiff posted... They are the same shit bar empty promises, you get a vapid experience instead But hey, at least is something you can hoard Religion tries to at least make you a better and give you a purpose in life (In theory) All brand corporate and brand worship does is syphon as much money out of you as possible for a temporary dopamine rush, then you buy their next product for another. That's all they exist for. --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:951843911] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>AdmiralStiff posted... </cite> <quote>They are the same shit bar empty promises, you get a vapid experience instead But hey, at least is something you can hoard</quote>Religion tries to at least make you a better and give you a purpose in life (In theory) All brand corporate and brand worship does is syphon as much money out of you as possible for a temporary dopamine rush, then you buy their next product for another. That's all they exist for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/18/21 2:13:05 PM #96:	Majority of CE voting that its a good thing. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:951849132] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>Majority of CE voting that its a good thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 03/18/21 2:14:09 PM #97:	It's 2021. Obsolete ideas always die out eventually, religion is in the process of doing so now. --- "fart" ~ Machete <cite>Trumble posted [p:951849165] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>It's 2021. Obsolete ideas always die out eventually, religion is in the process of doing so now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourLovelyTina 03/18/21 2:17:35 PM #98:	https://i.imgur.com/4oijwlo.jpg --- CONGRATULATIONS! You have saved your lovely Tina. Yattane Takahashi! <cite>YourLovelyTina posted [p:951849286] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>https://i.imgur.com/4oijwlo.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NatsuSama 03/18/21 2:24:43 PM #99:	MushroomMuncher posted... Religion tries to at least make you a better and give you a purpose in life (In theory) Sure. The sunshine and rainbows part of religion. Any of the uglies in the name of religion, some try to pretend never existed and isn't around. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:951849569] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>MushroomMuncher posted... </cite> <quote>Religion tries to at least make you a better and give you a purpose in life (In theory)</quote>Sure. The sunshine and rainbows part of religion. Any of the uglies in the name of religion, some try to pretend never existed and isn't around. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 03/18/21 2:29:14 PM #100:	NatsuSama posted... Sure. The sunshine and rainbows part of religion. Any of the uglies in the name of religion, some try to pretend never existed and isn't around. People are shitty, not the religion itself. What else is new --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:951849739] in Religion i... [t:79354297]...</cite> <quote>NatsuSama posted... </cite> <quote>Sure. The sunshine and rainbows part of religion. Any of the uglies in the name of religion, some try to pretend never existed and isn't around.</quote>People are shitty, not the religion itself. What else is new </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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