Current Events > Game Grumps drama (Dan Avidan accusations; repost)

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Chadwick69
03/22/21 8:04:44 AM
#101:


Slayer_22 posted...
Most other regular dudes sleep with girls and don't call back?
Actually yeah lol. Done it myself. Sometimes you just don't want to deal with the hassle and emotions so you ghost em. But I don't think it's a guy thing, I've had girls ghost me after sex too.
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Slayer_22
03/22/21 8:07:37 AM
#102:


Chadwick69 posted...

Actually yeah lol. Done it myself. Sometimes you just don't want to deal with the hassle and emotions so you ghost em. But I don't think it's a guy thing, I've had girls ghost me after sex too.

Huh. I thought that was more or less a meme. Most of the people I know definitely don't do that, so I guess we're the outliers lol.
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cjs28
03/22/21 8:07:41 AM
#103:


Slayer_22 posted...
Most other regular dudes sleep with girls and don't call back?
Yeah lol. That's what hook ups at the club are all about. It definitely goes both ways too

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MRW1215
03/22/21 8:12:07 AM
#104:


I mean, talk to most anyone who's actively dated around, had more than one or two sexual partners in their life, etc., and a vast majority of people will probably be able to recount a handful of stories of mismatched interest levels, sex that didn't result into the relationships they were hoping for, etc.

Sure, the world would be a wonderful place if ever guy was a perfect gentleman and every woman was a perfect lady 100% of the time to every person they interacted with and engaged in any kind of intimate relations with. But... that's not really how the world is. The world is messy and people are flawed and imperfect.
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Slayer_22
03/22/21 8:12:12 AM
#105:


cjs28 posted...

Yeah lol. That's what hook ups at the club are all about

Oh, wait, like a one night stand? I was thinking he meant less just casual hook-ups and more 'actively talking to someone, having sex, then pretending they don't exist'.

That just seems like a recipe for disaster the few times I've seen it happen. One dude at my work place got into an argument at the front counter and a warning over it.

Not pretty lol.

I need to sleep, is what this all means.
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MRW1215
03/22/21 8:28:52 AM
#106:


I think, in this context, "ghosting" is a little bit of a stretch, too. Anyone who's relatively famous probably has a million and one interactions with people constantly, be it fans or colleagues, be it in person or through social media. And if they're a traveling entertainer that's hopping from town to town, those interactions are only going to be more fleeting to that person.

I really can't imagine most famous people view brief fleeting interactions with fans as these deep, meaningful relationships. Like, if some girl has a few interactions with a celebrity over Twitter or Instagram or whatever, then later meets said celebrity in person and offers herself up for sex in a matter of hours, was that every really some profound relationship between the two?

Someone else talked in great length about the "celebrity-fan" power dynamic, but I think something worth considering is that trends in social networking have encouraged more and more obsessive behaviors among people. Look at people who idolize YouTubers and streamers, who come to believe these entertainers are their "friend" because they make daily content that feels like casual "shooting the shit with your buddies" content. Yet, that relationship doesn't actually exist. A content creator is just making stuff and putting it out there, often not having personal relationships with most of the people consuming it.

And stuff like social media only exacerbates that, because it makes it so easy to potentially have fleeting interactions with a celebrity. But again, to a celebrity, any given interaction that way is a dime a dozen. Them replying to your tweet doesn't mean that you're now best friends with them. Yet people on the other side of that will act like they've been graced by god himself.

I don't really think it's any given celebrity's fault for these kinds of things. That's not to "victim blame", either, but I just think that trends in the internet and social media have created a scenario where people are a lot more prone to obsessive behaviors, which is unhealthy no matter who they're directed at or how they manifest themselves.
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ultimate reaver
03/22/21 8:30:12 AM
#107:


MRW1215 posted...


I really can't imagine most famous people view brief fleeting interactions with fans as these deep, meaningful relationships. Like, if some girl has a few interactions with a celebrity over Twitter or Instagram or whatever, then later meets said celebrity in person and offers herself up for sex in a matter of hours, was that every really some profound relationship between the two?

A running theme of basically everyone one night stand story with dan that ive heard is that he butters them up into thinking he's interested in having a relationship with them


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MRW1215
03/22/21 8:31:37 AM
#108:


And? Again, so many regular people (heck, both men and women) do and say stuff just to get in someone else's pants all the time. That's not really uncommon or unheard of behavior.
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ultimate reaver
03/22/21 8:33:18 AM
#109:


that doesnt make it any less shitty or the people that do it any less of a scumbag

i dont agree with the criminal angle people are taking with this but its good that this is at least spreading the word that dan lies his way into bed with people using his shitty novelty band and his show made for teenagers

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Slayer_22
03/22/21 8:40:39 AM
#110:


MRW1215 posted...
And? Again, so many regular people (heck, both men and women) do and say stuff just to get in someone else's pants all the time. That's not really uncommon or unheard of behavior.

Add in saying it'll be a relationship and I'm pretty sure that's just straight up manipulation.

Are you defending it?
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_____Cait
03/22/21 8:50:23 AM
#111:


Weird. Dan always came off as a pretty decent guy who understood how to talk to people, despite his ability to tell really raunchy jokes. He seemed decent.

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MRW1215
03/22/21 8:55:30 AM
#112:


I'm not "defending" it, I'm just saying that it doesn't seem like behavior that's worth being aghast over. People sweet talk other people to get in their pants. That happens all the time. Again, sure, it's not "nice", but if everyone that's ever done that is a horrible scum bag, then there are a lot of scum bags out there.

And while I haven't personally looked into past stories and accounts, I think it's worth noting that people's perceptions of interactions are only ever one side of the story. There's two sides to every story and every interaction, and often the truth is somewhere in the middle. Just because any women felt that a relationship was expected from their interactions doesn't mean their own perceptions of the interactions aren't skewed a bit. People generally want to see what they want to see and believe that they want to believe, and again, most of the time, the truth is actually somewhere in the middle.
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Choco
03/22/21 9:19:25 AM
#113:


Doe posted...
incredibly enough, this is real. >_>

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mach25687
03/22/21 12:50:06 PM
#114:


Choco posted...
incredibly enough, this is real. >_>
Won't be surprised if this happens.
cjs28 posted...
I checked and Liam hasn't uploaded anything in 5 months >_>
Fuck him, I still think he is the reason the group broke up.

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VipaGTS
03/22/21 12:52:03 PM
#115:


The only shitty thing here is that he ghosts them afterwards. Tons of underage fans contact them. Sounds like he didnt even have regular contact with them until they were over 18. I guess you could say that sound scummy but its not grooming. Rock bands in the 80s and 90s did this all the time lol.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
03/22/21 1:03:46 PM
#116:


VipaGTS posted...
The only shitty thing here is that he ghosts them afterwards. Tons of underage fans contact them. Sounds like he didnt even have regular contact with them until they were over 18. I guess you could say that sound scummy but its not grooming. Rock bands in the 80s and 90s did this all the time lol.

And would it be wrong for Danny to assume that most women understand that unless he actively is like, "Hey, I want to be in a relationship with you" he is just flirting and looking to have sex?

The video about the hot tub shows he wasn't asking to date anyone. He was talking about having a sexual experience.

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pegusus123456
03/22/21 1:05:34 PM
#117:


Also, just throwing it out there: some of this could be faked. They censored the names of the people in some of these posts which isba weird thing to do if you're accusing someone.
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Background_Guy
03/22/21 1:06:28 PM
#118:


It just sounds like he's a jerk, nothing illegal or abusive or even that shocking.
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Background_Guy
03/22/21 1:08:14 PM
#119:


Also he's literally been admitting for ten years that he's a perverted weirdo
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Background_Guy
03/22/21 1:09:19 PM
#120:


VipaGTS posted...
The only shitty thing here is that he ghosts them afterwards. Tons of underage fans contact them. Sounds like he didnt even have regular contact with them until they were over 18. I guess you could say that sound scummy but its not grooming. Rock bands in the 80s and 90s did this all the time lol.
I mean, rock stars in the old days actually had sex with 15 year old groupies >_>
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Delirious_Beard
03/22/21 1:20:05 PM
#121:


Doe posted...
didn't he apologize for that and renounce those ideas

he basically only apologized for not being prepared and looking like a complete fool, and recently he made a very peculiar tweet about Banana Republic after the election. it's more likely that he's still an alt right dipshit but just keeps it to himself at this point

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LordFarquad1312
03/22/21 2:29:57 PM
#122:


Delirious_Beard posted...
he basically only apologized for not being prepared and looking like a complete fool, and recently he made a very peculiar tweet about Banana Republic after the election. it's more likely that he's still an alt right dipshit but just keeps it to himself at this point
He also shat on Belgium recently for some reason.

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VipaGTS
03/22/21 2:30:48 PM
#123:


Delirious_Beard posted...
he basically only apologized for not being prepared and looking like a complete fool, and recently he made a very peculiar tweet about Banana Republic after the election. it's more likely that he's still an alt right dipshit but just keeps it to himself at this point
I dont think he has a Twitter though.

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LightHawKnight
03/22/21 2:42:57 PM
#124:


I mean his stage name is Danny Sexbang is it not?

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BakonBitz
03/22/21 2:44:26 PM
#125:


VipaGTS posted...
I dont think he has a Twitter though.
That was about JonTron.

You're right that Dan doesn't have Twitter though (he doesn't manage the NSP account). In fact he only has Instagram and rarely posts on it to begin with. So any accusations against him that claim to have come about from being DMed on social media or whatever are VERY suspect.

Either way I think r/rantgrumps should be given the "boy who cried wolf" treatment at this point. Any "controversy" that comes from there should not be taken seriously because they've tried to spread misinformation and outright false statements too many times.

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LordFarquad1312
03/22/21 2:54:37 PM
#126:


BakonBitz posted...
Either way I think r/rantgrumps should be given the "boy who cried wolf" treatment at this point. Any "controversy" that comes from there should not be taken seriously because they've tried to spread misinformation and outright false statements too many times.
Some of it is accurate though. Like Suzy's Etsy scam. Or Suzy asking if she should make a BLM statement. Or the time fans asked Suzy what her hooja smells like. Or the time the fans doxxed Ding Dong and outed him as gay to his parents because he criticized their shitty dating simulator.

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BakonBitz
03/22/21 2:56:36 PM
#127:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Some of it is accurate though. Like Suzy's Etsy scam. Or Suzy asking if she should make a BLM statement. Or the time fans asked Suzy what her hooja smells like. Or the time the fans doxxed Ding Dong and outed him as gay to his parents because he criticized their shitty dating simulator.
I suppose so.

Still, a lot of what they put out is just hilariously desperate.

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Bass_X0
03/22/21 3:45:55 PM
#128:


The Quartering weighs in.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_vgYDdtAqw

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Funkydog
03/22/21 3:47:00 PM
#129:


Bass_X0 posted...
The Quartering weighs in.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_vgYDdtAqw
Please never post that filth here again.

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Bass_X0
03/22/21 3:51:42 PM
#130:


Funkydog posted...
Please never post that filth here again.

Its relevant. The pop culture news YouTubers will be covering this as it develops.

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Funkydog
03/22/21 3:54:44 PM
#131:


Bass_X0 posted...
Its relevant. The pop culture news YouTubers will be covering this as it develops.
The Quartering is never relevant and should only be used to torment people.

So please, never post that filth again.

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AdmiralStiff
03/22/21 3:57:03 PM
#132:


Lol @ people thinking grooming and brain maturity stops at 18

-but it is legal
Yeah, so is real estate hoarding and gerrymandering, that doesn't mean you ain't a huge piece of shit

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MRW1215
03/22/21 4:01:08 PM
#133:


For what it's worth, the original Reddit user that posted all of this stuff to begin with has admitted to another user that the birthday message was not actually from Dan to the individual, and that they were just using that screenshot to establish her age for the sake of the story. So, thus far, the only contact they had before she was 18 was a very generic fan message and him basically just generically responding about tour plans.
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mario2000
03/22/21 4:03:48 PM
#135:


Looking like the whole thing is a hoax

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Bass_X0
03/22/21 4:04:15 PM
#136:


Captain_Qwark posted...
I figured it was gonna be arin with his constant sexual comments in his youtube channel for children

Its not supposed to be for children though.

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ultimate reaver
03/22/21 4:09:15 PM
#137:


Delirious_Beard posted...
he basically only apologized for not being prepared and looking like a complete fool,

its still insane people buy this because it makes absolutely zero sense. is he saying he was unprepared so he started throwing out a bunch fake race statistics and white replacement stuff?

like why would he even try to say any of that if he didnt believe it to some degree? its so bewildering that he had a bunch of time to come up with an excuse and thats what he settled on, and even more bewidlering people gave him the benefit of the doubt because they cant live without the funny fart noise scream man

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Doe
03/22/21 4:09:41 PM
#139:


Bass_X0 posted...
Its not supposed to be for children though.
It's VERY obviously marketed to children dude.


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TheSavageDragon
03/22/21 4:14:33 PM
#140:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
He also shat on Belgium recently for some reason.

@LordFarquad1312
Care to elaborate a bit? As a Belgian I'm curious to see if his criticism is valid.
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Bass_X0
03/22/21 4:14:42 PM
#141:


Doe posted...
It's VERY obviously marketed to children dude.

They play kids games for the amusement of adults, filling their videos full of adult content.

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Doe
03/22/21 4:19:25 PM
#142:


Bass_X0 posted...
They play kids games for the amusement of adults, filling their videos full of adult content.
Curse words and "inappropriate" stories isn't adult content anymore, gramps. As a zoomer I grew up on that shit and so did my peers. Game Grumps is some of the tamest content on the web

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ThunderTrain
03/22/21 4:20:21 PM
#143:


Everything about GameGrumps seems incredibly toxic.

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Bass_X0
03/22/21 4:34:42 PM
#144:


Doe posted...
Curse words and "inappropriate" stories isn't adult content anymore, gramps. As a zoomer I grew up on that shit and so did my peers. Game Grumps is some of the tamest content on the web

Even if children watch it, its not intended for them. Like how kids used to watch R rated violent movies, those movies weren't for kids either.

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Doe
03/22/21 4:40:51 PM
#145:


Bass_X0 posted...
Even if children watch it, its not intended for them. Like how kids used to watch R rated violent movies, those movies weren't for kids either.
No, it's not like how kids used to watch R rated violent movies. That is a poor comparison. Arin knows who the primary viewership of his channel is. He makes content daily and knows how to present himself to make himself most appealing to that audience.

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LordFarquad1312
03/22/21 4:44:42 PM
#146:


TheSavageDragon posted...
@LordFarquad1312
Care to elaborate a bit? As a Belgian I'm curious to see if his criticism is valid.
https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/1372646444671336452

You can read the thread if you want. Not super offensive, but not a good look either.

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Doe
03/22/21 4:48:55 PM
#147:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
You can read the thread if you want. Not super offensive, but not a good look either.
Not a good look? Dude, it's Belgium. A steady European power responsible for one of the worst crimes against humanity during the scramble for Africa. They can take a couple licks.

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Gobstoppers12
03/22/21 4:51:24 PM
#148:


I think this drama is gonna flop on its face. Nobody really seems that bothered by it.

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_Raich_
03/22/21 5:23:04 PM
#149:


Kinda looking flimsier as time goes on. The reddit post author admitted the birthday post had nothing to do with Dan and was just some other unrelated person saying that.

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TheSavageDragon
03/22/21 5:24:52 PM
#150:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/1372646444671336452

You can read the thread if you want. Not super offensive, but not a good look either.

Meh, except for the "Leopold II" and "lol, barely has a government" comments...it's mostly ignorance and waffles. And both of those criticisms are very much on point. Also there's not a single doubt in my mind that every single one of those waffle comments came from Americans.
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