Current Events > Republicans are so scared, I love it

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These new racist voter suppression laws are a desperate attempt to hold onto power, it may work another election cycle but the party is almost over.

We will see Georgia, Texas, NC and Arizona become solidly blue and then they got nothing no matter what laws they pass.

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I hope so

They still had 74 million votes for Trump and the margins were very thin in many states, instead of boasting confidence people should be taking action to show opposition to blatant coup attempts like the Georgia voter law.

Even working for one election cycle would be devastating because every term Republicans are in power for causes irreversable damage to the US and the world

The problem is democrats let them get away with it.

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creativerealms posted...

The problem is democrats let them get away with it.

Don't worry Dems make posts like this topic and memes on twitter, they'll show 'em.

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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

These new racist voter suppression laws are a desperate attempt to hold onto power, it may work another election cycle but the party is almost over.

We will see Georgia, Texas, NC and Arizona become solidly blue and then they got nothing no matter what laws they pass.

they wont go blue with their voter suppression tactics


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creativerealms posted...

The problem is democrats let them get away with it.

what are they letting republicans get away with exactly

You too much ignorant hate to really love anything.

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

what are they letting republicans get away with exactly

changing the laws to disenfranchise people

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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

These new racist voter suppression laws are a desperate attempt to hold onto power, it may work another election cycle but the party is almost over.

They said this after dubya

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So are we going to prop up the Green or Libertarian parties when the Republican party dies? Because a country with only 1 viable party is a Dictatorship no matter how benevolent the Dictatorship is.
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SPE posted...

changing the laws to disenfranchise people

Where?

Broseph_Stalin posted...

what are they letting republicans get away with exactly

Biden is literally trying to have unity instead of punishing republicans for the shit they are doing.

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I would prefer not having to deal with the republicans in a state of fear or in power or at all.

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LightHawKnight posted...

Biden is literally trying to have unity instead of punishing republicans for the shit they are doing.

What does "have unity" mean? Punish how?

Am I speaking to bots here?

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Where?

GA is the first example

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Duncanwii posted...

So are we going to prop up the Green or Libertarian parties when the Republican party dies? Because a country with only 1 viable party is a Dictatorship no matter how benevolent the Dictatorship is.

The 2 new parties will be the conservative Democrats (people like Obama, Biden) and the progressives (AOC, Bernie).

Edit: I think "Progressive Party" would be the best name for the new party. Straightforward and it says what it's all about.

LightHawKnight posted...

Biden is literally trying to have unity instead of punishing republicans for the shit they are doing.

He's literally talking about nuking the filibuster now despite not wanting to in the first place.

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SPE posted...

GA is the first example

Republicans control the state government in GA, you're confused.

The Republican need to be crushed , run out of a office by the power of the vote.

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Gerrymandering was the greatest sin we let the GOP get away with. Anytime line should ever be re determined, it should be done by either a non partisan group or an equally bi-partison group.

Now they are trying to suppress votes. I understand doing everything in your power to stop voter fraud, but suppression isn't the solution to prevent fraud.

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Why does every anti-Republican come off like a bratty teenager that never got over that time their dad ripped up their concert tickets to some shitty emo band?

I mean, yeah dude! Stick it to 'em! Fuckin' MAGAs!

Conservative Talk Radio has been the most unironically hilarious Radio I've ever heard lately.
I've literally LMAO at the current Rush Limbaugh show.

It's so gloriously bad right now!!
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Republicans control the state government in GA, you're confused.

you asked what kind of stuff the republicans were getting away with. GA is an example.

what part dont you understand? Do you need me to explain things to you with apples and puppets?

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SPE posted...

you asked what kind of stuff the republicans were getting away with. GA is an example.

No I asked what Democrats were "letting" Republicans get away with which no one has been able to tell me yet.

creativerealms posted...

The problem is democrats let them get away with it.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

what are they letting republicans get away with exactly

Broseph_Stalin posted...

No I asked what Democrats were "letting" Republicans get away with which no one has been able to tell me yet.

are you playing dumb? The GA thing is the first example, I just explained you

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America has been more Liberal than Conservative for decades

Republicans never die, they just supress.

IF you think they're going to go away, you're delusional.

Republicans easily could retake the senate and presidency despite being a minority

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You don't know what letting means please stop calling other people dumb lol

SPE posted...

are you playing dumb? The GA thing is the first example, I just explained you

He's saying that the state government in Georgia is overwhelmingly Republican. Meaning democrats aren't letting them do anything. "Letting them" insinuates they have the legal ability to stop it and are just choosing not to.

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Delusional topic

Solid Snake07 posted...

He's saying that the state government in Georgia is overwhelmingly Republican. Meaning democrats aren't letting them do anything. "Letting them" insinuates they have the legal ability to stop it and are just choosing not to.

well thats some weak thinking from him. There are a lot of things Democrats could be doing, including running tv ads, hitting the airwaves, collaborating with GA companies to stop it, demonstrations, protests, etc. its better than going like oh well we dont run the GA house

plus they should be doing things on the federal level and judicial level too to stop this.


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If what happened in GA isn't enough to convince Senate Democrats to nuke the filibuster and pass HR-1 ASAP, then I just don't think they have what it takes to stop the USA's transition to a fascist state. I'm not placing the blame at their feet, but it is entirely within their power to make this choice for us. Words are no comfort-- they need to act now or they're only prolonging an inevitable spiral into authoritarian rule.

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CoorsLight posted...

Delusional topic

This. It's honestly kind of cringe.

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Florida will eventually turn blue too. Too many old people live there and eventually the population will get younger naturally

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You realize it's easy to register to vote.

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SPE posted...

well thats some weak thinking from him. There are a lot of things Democrats could be doing, including running tv ads, hitting the airwaves, collaborating with GA companies to stop it, demonstrations, protests, etc. its better than going like oh well we dont run the GA house

plus they should be doing things on the federal level and judicial level too to stop this.

I mean....a Democrat representative was arrested today in protest of this bill. Voter rights groups have filed multiple lawsuits in federal courts opposing it.

To say democrats are just shrugging it off and saying "oh well" is just kind of silly and frankly not true.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

I mean....a Democrat representative was arrested today in protest of this bill. Voter rights groups have filed multiple lawsuits in federal courts opposing it.

To say democrats are just shrugging it off and saying "oh well" is just kind of silly and frankly not true.

a few people here and there are trying to do something. But it is not a big time mobilization or anything


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SPE posted...

a few people here and there are trying to do something. But it is not a big time mobilization or anything

What do you think the Democrats should do then?
Be specific.

SPE posted...

a few people here and there are trying to do something. But it is not a big time mobilization or anything

....what exacly do you think would be more effective than challenging it in court as unconstitutional?

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Macken78 posted...

What do you think the Democrats should do then?
Be specific.

At this point, citizens might get desperate enough to engage in political assassinations to prevent America from turning into a fascist state.

Macken78 posted...

What do you think the Democrats should do then?
Be specific.

Solid Snake07 posted...

....what exacly do you think would be more effective than challenging it in court as unconstitutional?

1) pass HR1, get rid of the filibuster if necessary

what will happen if the GOP takes the house and we have no filibuster? Is not a good argument, they will get rid of it as soon as they need to do that, McConnel is a political arsonist.

if they let all these states past the Jim Crow 2.0 bullshit theyre passing it wont even be necessary for the GOP to get rid of the filibuster anyway, they will dominate the house and senate for decades to come.

but korok, what about manchin and sinema? Everybody has a price. Sweeten the deal for those two DINOs and they will agree to do it too.

2) peaceful protest

show the people are angry. Generate TV moments. Not enough people know about this. Think March for our lives or March for womens rights or March for science type of events, but it is important to keep them peaceful and orderly, like those events. GOP agitators will try to infiltrate and smear the events, so its important to keep an eye for that.

3) pass laws in Democratic controlled states shielding voting rights.

4) buy tv ad space, radio ad space, educate, educate educate. The GOP has spent millions of dollars smearing Bidens nominees with shit ads like Gupta is Indian and scary , I dont see why the democrats cant buy ad spade to have poignant, Lincoln project-like ads about the greatest attack on voting rights since Jim Crow.

5) legal challenges

this is a last resort. By this point things already went too far, and we cant trust a legal system that gives trespassing charges to capitol insurrectors while arresting for serious charges a Georgia (black) congresswoman for knocking on a door, a legal system that gives white mass shooters Burger King whoppers but kills black dudes at traffic stops.

a combination of the 4 above (and point 5 later if it gets to that) is doing something, far better than oh well we dont control any of those legislatures followed by *maybe* point 5 later

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SPE posted...

1) pass HR1, get rid of the filibuster if necessary

what will happen if the GOP takes the house and we have no filibuster? Is not a good argument, they will get rid of it as soon as they need to do that, McConnel is a political arsonist.

if they let all these states past the Jim Crow 2.0 bullshit theyre passing it wont even be necessary for the GOP to get rid of the filibuster anyway, they will dominate the house and senate for decades to come.

but korok, what about manchin and sinema? Everybody has a price. Sweeten the deal for those two DINOs and they will agree to do it too.

2) peaceful protest

show the people are angry. Generate TV moments. Not enough people know about this. Think March for our lives or March for womens rights or March for science type of events, but it is important to keep them peaceful and orderly, like those events. GOP agitators will try to infiltrate and smear the events, so its important to keep an eye for that.

3) pass laws in Democratic controlled states shielding voting rights.

4) buy tv ad space, radio ad space, educate, educate educate. The GOP has spent millions of dollars smearing Bidens nominees with shit ads like Gupta is Indian and scary , I dont see why the democrats cant buy ad spade to have poignant, Lincoln project-like ads about the greatest attack on voting rights since Jim Crow.

5) legal challenges

this is a last resort. By this point things already went too far, and we cant trust a legal system that gives trespassing charges to capitol insurrectors while arresting for serious charges a Georgia (black) congresswoman for knocking on a door, a legal system that gives white mass shooters Burger King whoppers but kills black dudes at traffic stops.

a combination of the 4 above (and point 5 later if it gets to that) is doing something, far better than oh well we dont control any of those legislatures followed by *maybe* point 5 later

They've already done and are doing 2,5,3
1 has nothing to do with this legislation and is an entirely separate issue.
4 is a waste of money.

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MegaCamerupt posted...

They still had 74 million votes for Trump and the margins were very thin in many states, instead of boasting confidence people should be taking action to show opposition to blatant coup attempts like the Georgia voter law.

Even working for one election cycle would be devastating because every term Republicans are in power for causes irreversable damage to the US and the world

Its amazing how few people on the left understand this. Gotta be an incrementalist right now given how tight things were, focus on small easy to pass things that objectivly improve peoples quality of life that you arent gonna get pushback on save the fight for 15 for when we have an actual majority

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ZeroX91 posted...

Its amazing how few people on the left understand this. Gotta be an incrementalist right now given how tight things were, focus on small easy to pass things that objectivly improve peoples quality of life that you arent gonna get pushback on save the fight for 15 for when we have an actual majority

The goal of the DNC ought to be passing as much legislation while they have the chance with a focus toward popular progressive policy. There's no reason to go anything but scorched earth (from the republicans perspective) while they still can.

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The Republicans are going to take back over soon and win for the foreseeable future. I'm scared of them. Society is going to get fucking oppressive.

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berlyman101 posted...

The goal of the DNC ought to be passing as much legislation while they have the chance with a focus toward popular progressive policy. There's no reason to go anything but scorched earth (from the republicans perspective) while they still can.

Gotta win over centerists and republicans under 35 if you wanna keep shit blue and you dont do that by giving tucker carlson ammo, the guy isnt going anywhere.
Go scorched earth and any good you do just gets reversed when Mitch and crew regain power.

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ZeroX91 posted...

Gotta win over centerists and republicans under 35 if you wanna keep shit blue and you dont do that by giving tucker carlson ammo, the guy isnt going anywhere.
Go scorched earth and any good you do just gets reversed when Mitch and crew regain power.

My point is that they've done this anyway and have made no motions towards changing those behaviors. This is the last chance to undercut their power the next time they do grab it. This is no time for enlightened centrism.

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Dems act like they don't want to nuke the filibuster cause it's a thing that the GOP will use against them the next time the GOP has power. But the GOP doesn't care about playing by the rules anyway, and also, it really shows you how weak the dems are that they assume it's a given they will lose again in the near future. And they're probably right! But maybe if they actually did everything it takes to pass good legislation, people would actually get energized and the GOP would stop winning.

They should put all their effort into making sure the GOP never gains control again, not into neutering their possible future control. Like who cares, if the GOP wins it's going to be a bad time no matter what

Duncanwii posted...

So are we going to prop up the Green or Libertarian parties when the Republican party dies? Because a country with only 1 viable party is a Dictatorship no matter how benevolent the Dictatorship is.

Does it matter? America right now is a de facto oligarchy. Both sides agree they're the only ones who get power, they just fight over how much.

Also, the Green party is basically just Democrats with a really strong eco bent, that's part of why they fail to attract much more than a fringe following.

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