Poll of the Day > When would you say "phoneposter Internet culture" really took off?

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Once upon a time, your common generic YouTube channel was filled with stuff about Smash Bros. or Sonic. If you can dig up an old abandoned channel and look at its videos from about a decade or so ago, this is what you tend to see. Now, your common generic YouTube channel is filled with ironic shitposts. And I feel like this is probably because of how social media has evolved. With the evolution of social media came the evolution of content and culture on the Internet.

What I'm asking is, where's the separating line on the timeline of the Internet between these two eras? When did the topical thing to make videos and posts about change?

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I have no idea what you're actually asking. You're creating two arbitrary eras yourself and then asking us where the split should be? And your entire assessment of Internet eras is based on a limited selection of YouTube content? Am I understanding any of this correctly?

JigsawTDC posted...

I have no idea what you're actually asking. You're creating two arbitrary eras yourself and then asking us where the split should be? And your entire assessment of Internet eras is based on a limited selection of YouTube content? Am I understanding any of this correctly?

Arbitrary? Do you not see this too?

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

Arbitrary? Do you not see this too?

No, I don't. My YouTube has never recommended me Smash, Sonic, or shitpost videos. You do realize that what you see is algorithmically catered to you, right? We don't all see the exact same Internet. This is why your evaluation comes across as arbitrary. It's not based on actual data, but your own subjective view.

JigsawTDC posted...

No, I don't. My YouTube has never recommended me Smash, Sonic, or shitpost videos. You do realize that what you see is algorithmically catered to you, right? We don't all see the exact same Internet. This is why your evaluation comes across as arbitrary. It's not based on actual data, but your own subjective view.

These things aren't recommended to me, I go searching for them. I'm like an Internet archaeologist.

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

These things aren't recommended to me, I go searching for them. I'm like an Internet archaeologist.

I'm still confused then. You're basing your eras on your own search history? Lol, isn't that a very clear and obvious bias and intentional curation of information?

JigsawTDC posted...

I'm still confused then. You're basing your eras on your own search history? Lol, isn't that a very clear and obvious bias and intentional curation of information?

I'm not searching "Smash Bros machinima" or anything like that, I'm digging through old channels in general. YouTube channels, forum posts, anything I can find. Things beyond YouTube's algorithm.

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Why dont you ask YouTubes algorithm

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What the hell are you even talking about

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I have not experienced this shift you're describing.

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

I'm not searching "Smash Bros machinima" or anything like that, I'm digging through old channels in general. YouTube channels, forum posts, anything I can find. Things beyond YouTube's algorithm.

Yeah, but you're still limited by your own viewpoint and search criteria. The other responses here should be indication to you that this is not a universal experience or a shift that most people recognize.

JigsawTDC posted...

Yeah, but you're still limited by your own viewpoint and search criteria. The other responses here should be indication to you that this is not a universal experience or a shift that most people recognize.

I think that might be because people don't really dig for shifts in trends. I thought this was more obvious, but now I see it's probably something you have to dig for.

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

I think that might be because people don't really dig for shifts in trends. I thought this was more obvious, but now I see it's probably something you have to dig for.

More likely is that we're a pattern recognizing species to the point where we tend to see patterns even when there aren't actually any and I think that's what you're doing here. If you can objectively prove this shift in trend with data, go for it, but as it stands it seems like you're constructing a false narrative in your head.

JigsawTDC posted...

More likely is that we're a pattern recognizing species to the point where we tend to see patterns even when there aren't actually any and I think that's what you're doing here. If you can objectively prove this shift in trend with data, go for it, but as it stands it seems like you're constructing a false narrative in your head.

This is a pretty objective collection of data.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6vHHxWWT0Y

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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...

This is a pretty objective collection of data.

It also has nothing to do with your OP.

JigsawTDC posted...

It also has nothing to do with your OP.

My opening post is about the shift between the way things used to be and the way things are now. That video shows the shifts from the way things used to be, to the way they are now. So I guess it's a question of where on that timeline things start to look more like the way they are now, and less like the way things used to be.

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Normies ruined the Internet

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I get what you're saying. It's the second week of August 2014.

It'd been coming for a long time. The introduction of the iPhone was the nail in the coffin.

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There was a significant schism in around 2011 between pre-mobile communities and post-mobile communities. In all honesty, the fad probably started around 2009 or so. Schisms like this do not appear instantly, but things like the rise of Facebook and Reddit directly correlate to what we are seeing today. Around the time you also see the rise of digital influencing. You can do something like compare pre-social media era digital influencers to post-social media era digital influencers and see significant differences in style and who they are marketing towards.

I have no idea what your OP is about, I am replying to your title.

My youtube recommendations are 100% in line with what I want, but I don't watch things I'm not interested in and I heavily use them to find interesting content.
I also don't like meme culture and have never invested any energy into it.

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Youtube trends are largely about how theyre currently paying out content creators. Such as when they changed as being paid per view to being paid per time watched...video times had more filler.

As far as I know, the internet has always been filled with shitposts - just different flavors over time.

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SilentSeph posted...

As far as I know, the internet has always been filled with shitposts - just different flavors over time.

I guess that would depend on what you consider a "shitpost." But the difference in flavor is the point.

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I remember religious debates being extremely popular 10-15 years ago. I have never seen a video about Sonic or Smash. The change was probably the adpocalypse and introduction of the deep-learning dipshit algorithm that now runs the site.

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