Current Events > Piracy is justified if it is for preservation

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It's a really good game >_>

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nfearurspecimn posted...

You're going to prison for 20 years, any last words?!
It was justified! A gamefaqs poster said so!

Hey now, we're saying it's justified

not legal >_>

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You can only play the old SMT games from piracy >_> Atlus did release SMT1 on iOS for some reason but it isn't even supported or listed anymore, so we're back to square one.

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I Like Toast posted...

haven't defended them once. Stealing something is not justified unless it's to sustain your life. I don't give a fuck if you choose to steal or not, just have the balls to admit what you do instead of trying to make yourself feel better about it.

It's not a complicated subject. Not to mention the notion that stealing only impacts billion dollar corporations is laughable. I guarantee if you shared all the software you stole it isn't exclusively 20+ year old software with no means to purchase from billion dollar corporations.

I've already admitted within this topic that I've pirated in the immoral way before, and I make no justifications for that. That's not what the topic is about.

What is your opinion on art preservation and situations like that?

NeonOctopus posted...

It's a really good game >_>

this <_<

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Not wanting to pay for it is justified enough for me

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JimmyFraska posted...

Or when I say piracy, I'm referring less to the downloaders and more to those uploading games that are inaccessible otherwise. Like that Goldeneye remaster that leaked a month ago. Totally justified imo.

Hollywood cranked out tens of thousands of films in the 1920s, 30s and 40s. Most of these films do not exist anymore because they were owned by corporations who didn't give a fuck about the preservation of art. The film reels were not preserved properly, they degraded, and now we only have a fraction of films from that era still watchable. It's not a little percentage; there are more movies not available because no one took the time to preserve them.

The games industry is notorious for having these same issues. Games aren't documented, and if they are, that documentation is behind so much red tape, owned by people who don't give a fuck, that without someone like the person who leaked Goldeneye, we would never, ever see it.

If someone had saved some of those film reels, without permission from the studios, we would still have those films. And what proof do we have of this? Because it's happened. A film gets screened in a few theaters in the 1930s, then gets archived by the studios. But one of those theater operators keeps the reel, and then internet communities 70 years later find it and are able to preserve that film. All of this without permission of the rights holders, and would have not happened under them.

I mean, no joke, fans do a better job preserving game documentation via datamining, than the companies do themselves. There have been game companies, who go to fan made reverse engineered engines and games to get information on them, because the fan communities kept that info, and the publishers did not, and now they need the community's help. This happens.

And there are whole eras of gaming that people know next to nothing about, and the people who made them aren't around. For example, the thousands and thousands of games made for 1980s Japanese computers. These have to be archived by the communities who love them or they will go away forever.

So, yeah, without piracy, without breaking the rules, art and history will go away and be lost forever because it's owned by someone who doesn't care.

You aint wrong.

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JimmyFraska posted...

Lmao it's funny that literally all of us who got SNES roms got Terranigma.

Well it is the best rpg that wasn't released stateside imo. Released when N64 launched so Nintendo stopped bringing games over for the SNES and focused solely on their new lineup.