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Venger2112 03/30/21 11:57:58 AM #51:	Except none of it exists dude. Every religion is a carbon copy of the first group who worshipped the sun. Everything, EVERYTHING is modelled after that. Crown of thorns. 3 Kings. blah blah The entire world and a good portion of you have been HAD for your entire lives and are gona be surprised when you die, everything goes black and none of this evangelical shit ever mattered. It certainly hasn't made most of the world into better people. --- "I may look like a Paladin, but in my heart I'm a Nep! XD" <cite>Venger2112 posted [p:952278903] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Except none of it exists dude. Every religion is a carbon copy of the first group who worshipped the sun. Everything, EVERYTHING is modelled after that. Crown of thorns. 3 Kings. blah blah The entire world and a good portion of you have been HAD for your entire lives and are gona be surprised when you die, everything goes black and none of this evangelical shit ever mattered. It certainly hasn't made most of the world into better people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiamondDogs 03/30/21 11:58:49 AM #52:	LastTomorrow posted... Doesn't the Bible talk about the lake of fire? So we wont see them til the Fourth of July? --- #D4L <cite>DiamondDogs posted [p:952278932] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>LastTomorrow posted... </cite> <quote>Doesn't the Bible talk about the lake of fire?</quote> So we wont see them til the Fourth of July? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 03/30/21 12:08:31 PM #53:	I mean, even ignoring the "all religion is evil/for control" angle, Hell doesn't make sense even within the realms of christian doctrine. I mean, Hell is straight up the most ludicrously overblown punishment imaginable. Eternity is a fuckin long time. Infinite time. after trillions of years, its not done. There is no crime, or group of crimes, that warrants the worst suffering conceivable by all intelligence in the universe, for that length of time. Certainly nothing any single man could accomplish in one lifetime. Even if you were to take a genocidal madman, who wiped out all life in the known universe, and go full eye-for-an-eye (or worse) and sentence him to suffer proportionately to everyone he destroyed, or even for the duration of the lives he prematurely snuffed out, served back-to-back... eternity STILL keeps going. The crime STILL isn't big enough to fit the punishment. Eternity in hell is ridiculously overblown. And if a bunch of drunk bozos in a Philadelphia bar can conclude that cruel and unusual punishment is a bad thing, surely a Supreme deity of love and mercy could, as well. Unless of course God is evil (inb4), in which case, whats the fuckin point in worrying anyway? screwed either way. then there's the whole shtick about the Bible never mentioning it (only a "lake of fire" for licifer and his followers at the tail end of revelations), and the fact that Dante basically invented it (and populated it almost exclusively with people he personally didn't like; its actually hilarious), and... yeah. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:952279235] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>I mean, even ignoring the "all religion is evil/for control" angle, Hell doesn't make sense even within the realms of christian doctrine. I mean, Hell is straight up the most ludicrously overblown punishment imaginable. Eternity is a fuckin long time. Infinite time. after trillions of years, its not done. There is no crime, or group of crimes, that warrants the worst suffering conceivable by all intelligence in the universe, for that length of time. Certainly nothing any single man could accomplish in one lifetime. Even if you were to take a genocidal madman, who wiped out all life in the known universe, and go full eye-for-an-eye (or worse) and sentence him to suffer proportionately to everyone he destroyed, or even for the duration of the lives he prematurely snuffed out, served back-to-back... eternity STILL keeps going. The crime STILL isn't big enough to fit the punishment. Eternity in hell is ridiculously overblown. And if a bunch of drunk bozos in a Philadelphia bar can conclude that cruel and unusual punishment is a bad thing, surely a Supreme deity of love and mercy could, as well. Unless of course God is evil (inb4), in which case, whats the fuckin point in worrying anyway? screwed either way. then there's the whole shtick about the Bible never mentioning it (only a "lake of fire" for licifer and his followers at the tail end of revelations), and the fact that Dante basically invented it (and populated it almost exclusively with people he personally didn't like; its actually hilarious), and... yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Venger2112 03/30/21 12:10:53 PM #54:	DarkBuster22904 posted... Unless of course God is evil (inb4), in which case, whats the f*in point in worrying anyway? screwed either way. Nowadays, what with the modern Satanism and TST and stuff, God pretty much has become "the evil one" whereas Satanism has taken on all the morality, compassion and empathy that, while growing up, people teach you the popular religions are supposed to be. --- "I may look like a Paladin, but in my heart I'm a Nep! XD" <cite>Venger2112 posted [p:952279303] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite> <quote>Unless of course God is evil (inb4), in which case, whats the f*in point in worrying anyway? screwed either way.</quote>Nowadays, what with the modern Satanism and TST and stuff, God pretty much has become "the evil one" whereas Satanism has taken on all the morality, compassion and empathy that, while growing up, people teach you the popular religions are supposed to be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivany2008 03/30/21 12:17:46 PM #55:	I've always looked at the bible like this: The old testament was invented to drive fear into the heart of man. Once that started failing, they invented the New testament to give people hope. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:952279527] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>I've always looked at the bible like this: The old testament was invented to drive fear into the heart of man. Once that started failing, they invented the New testament to give people hope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 03/30/21 12:30:05 PM #56:	Venger2112 posted... Nowadays Not just nowadays; gnosticism has pretty ancient roots. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:952279895] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Venger2112 posted... </cite> <quote>Nowadays</quote> Not just nowadays; gnosticism has pretty ancient roots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlockWatcher 03/30/21 12:45:20 PM #57:	he says if you have heaven as a place where youre rewarded for your goodness and hell as a place where you are punished for your evil, then you sort of have control of the population. But like some other pointed out , Sheol, Gehenna the lake of fire are all mentioned in the bible the church doesnt like for people to grow up, because you cant control grown ups, that why we talk about being born again, when your born again youre still a child, people dont need to be born again, they need to grow up, then need to accept their responsibility for themselves and the world Jesus speaks of this also in the bible so this priest is really just a person who has rejected his faith and thats nothing new, there are plenty of people who have left the faith after many years of living for God. --- 1 John 2: 15-17 <cite>BlockWatcher posted [p:952280409] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>he says if you have heaven as a place where youre rewarded for your goodness and hell as a place where you are punished for your evil, then you sort of have control of the population. But like some other pointed out , Sheol, Gehenna the lake of fire are all mentioned in the bible the church doesnt like for people to grow up, because you cant control grown ups, that why we talk about being born again, when your born again youre still a child, people dont need to be born again, they need to grow up, then need to accept their responsibility for themselves and the world Jesus speaks of this also in the bible so this priest is really just a person who has rejected his faith and thats nothing new, there are plenty of people who have left the faith after many years of living for God. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MKScorpion 03/30/21 12:48:40 PM #58:	Hell itself is essentially a rip off of Hel of Norse mythology, although she was also a being if my memory is correct. --- IWTDINO <cite>MKScorpion posted [p:952280531] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Hell itself is essentially a rip off of Hel of Norse mythology, although she was also a being if my memory is correct. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/30/21 12:49:42 PM #59:	Im not going to question Gods choices that go beyond the universe. If something happens to humans after they die, that is inherently beyond the realm of science and must be a direct choice of God. So whatever they are they must be correct, right? If God is perfect, then his decisions must be perfect even if they are beyond human understanding. If there is indeed an afterlife, it doesnt matter what we think about any of it. Whatever happens to is will happen presumably based on the way we lived our lives. If the most fundamental religious people are right that sucks for a lot of us. All we can do to humans is live good lives and hope for the best. God says he is merciful, so that should work in favor of humanity. Everyone makes mistakes and can do bad things thinking they are doing good things (for example, choosing to worship the wrong god/religion after doing loads of research but just making an incorrect decision). --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:952280579] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Im not going to question Gods choices that go beyond the universe. If something happens to humans after they die, that is inherently beyond the realm of science and must be a direct choice of God. So whatever they are they must be correct, right? If God is perfect, then his decisions must be perfect even if they are beyond human understanding. If there is indeed an afterlife, it doesnt matter what we think about any of it. Whatever happens to is will happen presumably based on the way we lived our lives. If the most fundamental religious people are right that sucks for a lot of us. All we can do to humans is live good lives and hope for the best. God says he is merciful, so that should work in favor of humanity. Everyone makes mistakes and can do bad things thinking they are doing good things (for example, choosing to worship the wrong god/religion after doing loads of research but just making an incorrect decision). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 03/30/21 1:08:34 PM #60:	Gawrsh --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:952281222] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Gawrsh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlockWatcher 03/30/21 1:16:58 PM #61:	DarkBuster22904 posted... I mean, even ignoring the "all religion is evil/for control" angle, Hell doesn't make sense even within the realms of christian doctrine. I mean, Hell is straight up the most ludicrously overblown punishment imaginable. Eternity is a fuckin long time. Infinite time. after trillions of years, its not done. There is no crime, or group of crimes, that warrants the worst suffering conceivable by all intelligence in the universe, for that length of time. Certainly nothing any single man could accomplish in one lifetime. Even if you were to take a genocidal madman, who wiped out all life in the known universe, and go full eye-for-an-eye (or worse) and sentence him to suffer proportionately to everyone he destroyed, or even for the duration of the lives he prematurely snuffed out, served back-to-back... eternity STILL keeps going. The crime STILL isn't big enough to fit the punishment. Eternity in hell is ridiculously overblown. And if a bunch of drunk bozos in a Philadelphia bar can conclude that cruel and unusual punishment is a bad thing, surely a Supreme deity of love and mercy could, as well. Unless of course God is evil (inb4), in which case, whats the fuckin point in worrying anyway? screwed either way. then there's the whole shtick about the Bible never mentioning it (only a "lake of fire" for licifer and his followers at the tail end of revelations), and the fact that Dante basically invented it (and populated it almost exclusively with people he personally didn't like; its actually hilarious), and... yeah. what if , on the day of our death , God asks every person who comes before him before their judgement this question: do you want to be with me or do you want to be separated from me? do you think some people would choose to be separated from God? --- 1 John 2: 15-17 <cite>BlockWatcher posted [p:952281551] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, even ignoring the "all religion is evil/for control" angle, Hell doesn't make sense even within the realms of christian doctrine. I mean, Hell is straight up the most ludicrously overblown punishment imaginable. Eternity is a fuckin long time. Infinite time. after trillions of years, its not done. There is no crime, or group of crimes, that warrants the worst suffering conceivable by all intelligence in the universe, for that length of time. Certainly nothing any single man could accomplish in one lifetime. Even if you were to take a genocidal madman, who wiped out all life in the known universe, and go full eye-for-an-eye (or worse) and sentence him to suffer proportionately to everyone he destroyed, or even for the duration of the lives he prematurely snuffed out, served back-to-back... eternity STILL keeps going. The crime STILL isn't big enough to fit the punishment. Eternity in hell is ridiculously overblown. And if a bunch of drunk bozos in a Philadelphia bar can conclude that cruel and unusual punishment is a bad thing, surely a Supreme deity of love and mercy could, as well. Unless of course God is evil (inb4), in which case, whats the fuckin point in worrying anyway? screwed either way. then there's the whole shtick about the Bible never mentioning it (only a "lake of fire" for licifer and his followers at the tail end of revelations), and the fact that Dante basically invented it (and populated it almost exclusively with people he personally didn't like; its actually hilarious), and... yeah.</quote> what if , on the day of our death , God asks every person who comes before him before their judgement this question: do you want to be with me or do you want to be separated from me? do you think some people would choose to be separated from God? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonGrackle 03/30/21 1:27:10 PM #62:	ouch the edge in this topic is enough to juice vegetables <cite>CommonGrackle posted [p:952281913] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>ouch the edge in this topic is enough to juice vegetables</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 03/30/21 1:27:19 PM #63:	Right. A lot of the hell imagery the church uses was taken from Dante's divine comedy. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:952281916] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Right. A lot of the hell imagery the church uses was taken from Dante's divine comedy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 03/30/21 1:40:28 PM #65:	BlockWatcher posted... But like some other pointed out , Sheol, Gehenna the lake of fire are all mentioned in the bible The lake of fire is explicitly for specific beings who cant die. Regular humans can and do die. Everlasting life was denied to humanity as punishment, but can be restored via Jesus. Sinners and other folks who reject him will just truly die. Hell as a place sinners go to is absolutely an invention of people. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:952282417] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>BlockWatcher posted... </cite> <quote>But like some other pointed out , Sheol, Gehenna the lake of fire are all mentioned in the bible</quote>The lake of fire is explicitly for specific beings who cant die. Regular humans can and do die. Everlasting life was denied to humanity as punishment, but can be restored via Jesus. Sinners and other folks who reject him will just truly die. Hell as a place sinners go to is absolutely an invention of people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/30/21 1:52:20 PM #66:	Everyone in this topic ignoring that hell (i.e. eternal damnation) is explicitly mentioned many times in the Quran. I dont think there is a way to interpret there being no actual hell from that. --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:952282845] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Everyone in this topic ignoring that hell (i.e. eternal damnation) is explicitly mentioned many times in the Quran. I dont think there is a way to interpret there being no actual hell from that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 03/30/21 1:58:13 PM #67:	BLAKUboy posted... Its definitely not in the bible. the biblr does say some will be thrown in the lake of fire --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:952283044] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>BLAKUboy posted... </cite> <quote>Its definitely not in the bible.</quote> the biblr does say some will be thrown in the lake of fire </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BB mofo 03/30/21 2:00:10 PM #68:	BLAKUboy posted... Its definitely not in the bible. Unfortunately, it can be interpreted as being in the New Testament Bible. The parable of "Lazarus and Dives" in the Gospel of Luke being the prime example. --- "But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" -Mark Twain <cite>BB mofo posted [p:952283099] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>BLAKUboy posted... </cite> <quote>Its definitely not in the bible.</quote> Unfortunately, it can be interpreted as being in the New Testament Bible. The parable of "Lazarus and Dives" in the Gospel of Luke being the prime example. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cymbaline 03/30/21 2:04:54 PM #69:	CommonGrackle posted... ouch the edge in this topic is enough to juice vegetables Every religion topic lately has been r/atheism level --- Please wake me. <cite>cymbaline posted [p:952283264] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>CommonGrackle posted... </cite> <quote>ouch the edge in this topic is enough to juice vegetables</quote>Every religion topic lately has been r/atheism level </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwampDiver 03/30/21 2:10:29 PM #70:	he'll see that it is indeed NOT fake. <cite>SwampDiver posted [p:952283447] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>he'll see that it is indeed NOT fake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KFHEWUI 03/30/21 2:19:13 PM #71:	James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. Psalms 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Matthew 5: 22B Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? New Testament mentions Hell 162 while the Old Testament has it 31 times. --- R.I.P. SaikyoMog! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-seAIeu3Og "If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism" Ronald Reagan <cite>KFHEWUI posted [p:952283737] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>James 3:6 <quote>And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.</quote> Psalms 16:10 <quote>For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.</quote> Matthew 5: 22B <quote> Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire</quote> Matthew 23:33 <quote>Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?</quote> New Testament mentions Hell 162 while the Old Testament has it 31 times. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chrontinue 03/30/21 2:48:51 PM #72:	Its okay, just put on this mask. --- TWITTER: https://www.twitter.com/Chrontinue \| YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC52Tr3-Ib59kecYpL60r8RA NIN / PSN / Steam / XBL / Everything: Chrontinue <cite>Chrontinue posted [p:952284779] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Its okay, just put on this mask. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustachedmystic 03/30/21 3:24:20 PM #73:	I don't remember where I heard this, but heaven is when your soul is with God, and hell is your soul being is alone, isolated, far away from God. And Hell as we know it, fire, brimstone the whole 9 yards, is something that was made up because life was once so short and painful, that they had to dress it up to make it seem undesirable to people. --- How do you like to enjoy a Rusty Brown's Ring Donut? <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:952285995] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>I don't remember where I heard this, but heaven is when your soul is with God, and hell is your soul being is alone, isolated, far away from God. And Hell as we know it, fire, brimstone the whole 9 yards, is something that was made up because life was once so short and painful, that they had to dress it up to make it seem undesirable to people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 03/30/21 3:33:45 PM #74:	--- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:952286304] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 03/30/21 3:36:19 PM #75:	Oh shit. Big if true. Did he also reveal that the sun is actually hot? --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. <cite>Machete posted [p:952286389] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Oh shit. Big if true. Did he also reveal that the sun is actually hot?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 03/30/21 3:37:28 PM #76:	CommonGrackle posted... ouch the edge in this topic is enough to juice vegetables Elaborate --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. <cite>Machete posted [p:952286418] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>CommonGrackle posted...</cite> <quote>ouch the edge in this topic is enough to juice vegetables</quote> Elaborate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tryhaptaward 03/30/21 3:40:52 PM #77:	Read Paradise Lost <cite>Tryhaptaward posted [p:952286514] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Read Paradise Lost </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firewerx 03/30/21 4:42:09 PM #78:	It used to control people with the threat of having them imprisoned, tortured and killed if they dared to dissent; so relying on psychological manipulation instead is maybe progress of a kind. --- Slaughterhouse 5 Cattle 0 <cite>Firewerx posted [p:952288512] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>It used to control people with the threat of having them imprisoned, tortured and killed if they dared to dissent; so relying on psychological manipulation instead is maybe progress of a kind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 03/30/21 5:46:23 PM #79:	Venger2112 posted... Except none of it exists dude. Every religion is a carbon copy of the first group who worshipped the sun. Everything, EVERYTHING is modelled after that. Crown of thorns. 3 Kings. blah blah The entire world and a good portion of you have been HAD for your entire lives and are gona be surprised when you die, everything goes black and none of this evangelical shit ever mattered. It certainly hasn't made most of the world into better people. How did you come back to life after dying? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:952290831] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Venger2112 posted... </cite> <quote>Except none of it exists dude. Every religion is a carbon copy of the first group who worshipped the sun. Everything, EVERYTHING is modelled after that. Crown of thorns. 3 Kings. blah blah The entire world and a good portion of you have been HAD for your entire lives and are gona be surprised when you die, everything goes black and none of this evangelical shit ever mattered. It certainly hasn't made most of the world into better people.</quote>How did you come back to life after dying? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KainFourteh 03/30/21 7:50:01 PM #80:	That's all religion in a nutshell. <cite>KainFourteh posted [p:952295074] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>That's all religion in a nutshell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WashYourHands 03/30/21 7:59:24 PM #81:	We believe priests now? --- 20 seconds is all it takes! <cite>WashYourHands posted [p:952295387] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>We believe priests now? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 03/30/21 8:01:52 PM #82:	Hell is just the soul-recycling machine that keeps us trapped in this material world. --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". There is "would've", "should've" and "could've". <cite>Laserion posted [p:952295474] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Hell is just the soul-recycling machine that keeps us trapped in this material world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/30/21 8:09:48 PM #83:	What about Hitler? Hell isn't just about telling people who believe differently that they'll suffer agony in the next life. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:952295722] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>What about Hitler? Hell isn't just about telling people who believe differently that they'll suffer agony in the next life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 03/30/21 8:29:09 PM #84:	scar the 1 posted... And that the Christian interpretation of "hell" essentially came from looking at translations rather than the original text. A lot of what Christians think Christianity is about is from translations of translations of translations, and when you look at the original text you find out it didnt say any of that. Also things that were just outright added later because the church needed to control a narrative. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:952296349] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>And that the Christian interpretation of "hell" essentially came from looking at translations rather than the original text.</quote>A lot of what Christians think Christianity is about is from translations of translations of translations, and when you look at the original text you find out it didnt say any of that. Also things that were just outright added later because the church needed to control a narrative. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jon1012 03/30/21 8:40:49 PM #85:	NEW and EXCITING --- We are Borg. <cite>jon1012 posted [p:952296720] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>NEW and EXCITING </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marauder64 03/30/21 8:54:32 PM #86:	What happened to Lazarus after he was resurrected? or the others that rose from their Graves when Jesus rose? Do you think they can die again? --- What our enemies have begun, we will finish <cite>Marauder64 posted [p:952297214] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>What happened to Lazarus after he was resurrected? or the others that rose from their Graves when Jesus rose? Do you think they can die again? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 03/30/21 9:00:08 PM #87:	Jesus mentions a place that sounds a lot like hell when hes telling the story of the rich man and Lazarus. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_man_and_Lazarus --- https://imgur.com/a/fqY7axi <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:952297407] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Jesus mentions a place that sounds a lot like hell when hes telling the story of the rich man and Lazarus. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_man_and_Lazarus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 03/30/21 9:01:52 PM #88:	Its like Santa on a bigger scale. If you're bad you get no presents/go to hell --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://imgur.com/PmX8smn https://imgur.com/mwTy0iF https://imgur.com/FCER80e <cite>Middle hope posted [p:952297462] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Its like Santa on a bigger scale. If you're bad you get no presents/go to hell </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_SilverX 03/30/21 9:34:27 PM #90:	Middle hope posted... Its like Santa on a bigger scale. If you're bad you get no presents/go to hell Satan and Santa has to be twins --- Cancelation makes my nipples hard. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:952298308] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Middle hope posted... </cite> <quote>Its like Santa on a bigger scale. If you're bad you get no presents/go to hell</quote>Satan and Santa has to be twins </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 03/30/21 9:43:24 PM #91:	Religion is an invention to control the masses. <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:952298589] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Religion is an invention to control the masses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 03/30/21 10:14:08 PM #92:	Jesus Christ died for everyone's sins so that people wouldn't have to go to hell anymore though(besides Satan and those who went to hell with him When people say it now in a serious manner its just wrong seeming. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:952299501] in Retired pr... [t:79377135]...</cite> <quote>Jesus Christ died for everyone's sins so that people wouldn't have to go to hell anymore though(besides Satan and those who went to hell with him When people say it now in a serious manner its just wrong seeming. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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