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pure_temper 03/30/21 7:51:33 PM #51:	Kloe_Rinz posted... Just stop responding or admit youre wrong if you cant construct a viable argument. Ill do you one better, Ill tag you appropriately and end this nonsense here. Get lost What a joke, i presented my viable argument and this is your response for a reason but its ok i can already tell youre not worth discussing anything with so begone --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952295129] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>Just stop responding or admit youre wrong if you cant construct a viable argument. Ill do you one better, Ill tag you appropriately and end this nonsense here. Get lost</quote> What a joke, i presented my viable argument and this is your response for a reason but its ok i can already tell youre not worth discussing anything with so begone </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 03/30/21 7:51:40 PM #52:	hockeybub89 posted... How convenient that gods exist outside of physics and reality, and are unable to be observed with the senses. Unfalsifiable and invisible. People call that insanity until you slap the word "religious" in front of "belief". This is literally the foundation of Science itself lol oh no it's not real until we find it, until then we're not sure! --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:952295131] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>How convenient that gods exist outside of physics and reality, and are unable to be observed with the senses. Unfalsifiable and invisible. People call that insanity until you slap the word "religious" in front of "belief".</quote> This is literally the foundation of Science itself lol oh no it's not real until we find it, until then we're not sure! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 03/30/21 7:52:44 PM #53:	I mean if Science can have theories like the Multiverse and the False Vacuum, I don't see why believing in a higher power is that much more crazy --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:952295167] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>I mean if Science can have theories like the Multiverse and the False Vacuum, I don't see why believing in a higher power is that much more crazy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 03/30/21 7:52:50 PM #54:	pure_temper posted... What a joke, i presented my viable argument things exist, therefore god viable argument just stop. <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:952295176] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>What a joke, i presented my viable argument</quote> things exist, therefore god viable argument just stop. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/30/21 7:53:44 PM #55:	MushroomMuncher posted... Non answers are not good enough for me So you would have explained diseases as god's wrath in olden days because medical knowledge was limited? Not having the answers is what drives us to find the answers. God is a copout and it's such arrogance that people can't just say " I don't know". --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952295202] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>MushroomMuncher posted... </cite> <quote>Non answers are not good enough for me</quote>So you would have explained diseases as god's wrath in olden days because medical knowledge was limited? Not having the answers is what drives us to find the answers. God is a copout and it's such arrogance that people can't just say " I don't know". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 7:53:50 PM #56:	hockeybub89 posted... How convenient that gods exist outside of physics and reality, and are unable to be observed with the senses. Unfalsifiable and invisible. People call that insanity until you slap the word "religious" in front of "belief". you dont seem to understand that most knowledge you have is predicated not on physics or the scientific method, but on assumptions about reality in the first place you have no way of proving w/ a scientific experiment that you are not in The Matrix. And so many other things. Have you ever seen it? Anyway, God is not the only concept or subject which has to be approached from another angle --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952295205] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>How convenient that gods exist outside of physics and reality, and are unable to be observed with the senses. Unfalsifiable and invisible. People call that insanity until you slap the word "religious" in front of "belief".</quote> you dont seem to understand that most knowledge you have is predicated not on physics or the scientific method, but on assumptions about reality in the first place you have no way of proving w/ a scientific experiment that you are not in The Matrix. And so many other things. Have you ever seen it? Anyway, God is not the only concept or subject which has to be approached from another angle </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 03/30/21 7:55:03 PM #57:	hockeybub89 posted... Not having the answers is what drives us to find the answers. God is a copout and it's such arrogance that people can't just say " I don't know". A lot of non believers can't say that either, so they just say there is no answer. Hell someone did that in this very topic --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:952295254] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Not having the answers is what drives us to find the answers. God is a copout and it's such arrogance that people can't just say " I don't know".</quote>A lot of non believers can't say that either, so they just say there is no answer. Hell someone did that in this very topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 7:55:41 PM #58:	4 real tho anyone know who Kloe_Rinz is? --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952295274] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>4 real tho anyone know who Kloe_Rinz is? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 03/30/21 7:56:05 PM #59:	pure_temper posted... 4 real tho anyone know who Kloe_Rinz is? Shut the fuck up and stop trolling. <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:952295288] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>4 real tho anyone know who Kloe_Rinz is?</quote>Shut the fuck up and stop trolling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eyeratosthenes 03/30/21 7:56:42 PM #60:	i don't know why there being no reason for life makes you so uncomfortable. why would you lie to yourself rather than acknowledge it? --- Aiways / Hairistotle <cite>Eyeratosthenes posted [p:952295307] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>i don't know why there being no reason for life makes you so uncomfortable. why would you lie to yourself rather than acknowledge it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/30/21 7:56:44 PM #61:	RedJackson posted... This is literally the foundation of Science itself lol oh no it's not real until we find it, until then we're not sure! Attributing things to God is not saying "we're not sure". I would criticize anyone who took an unsubstantiated scientific theory and lived their life as if it was fact. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952295309] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>This is literally the foundation of Science itself lol oh no it's not real until we find it, until then we're not sure!</quote>Attributing things to God is not saying "we're not sure". I would criticize anyone who took an unsubstantiated scientific theory and lived their life as if it was fact. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 03/30/21 7:58:15 PM #62:	Eyeratosthenes posted... i don't know why there being no reason for life makes you so uncomfortable. why would you lie to yourself rather than acknowledge it? If you ask me, if there was no purpose to life, then life wouldn't have happened in the first place --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:952295352] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>Eyeratosthenes posted... </cite> <quote>i don't know why there being no reason for life makes you so uncomfortable. why would you lie to yourself rather than acknowledge it?</quote>If you ask me, if there was no purpose to life, then life wouldn't have happened in the first place </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 03/30/21 7:58:18 PM #63:	not a supernatural one. maybe there is a force for good beyond our ability to explain, though --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta/hungry ghost Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:952295353] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>not a supernatural one. maybe there is a force for good beyond our ability to explain, though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 7:58:49 PM #64:	hockeybub89 posted... Attributing things to God is not saying "we're not sure". I would criticize anyone who took an unsubstantiated scientific theory and lived their life as if it was fact. so when will you be criticizing yourself for Scientism? --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952295370] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Attributing things to God is not saying "we're not sure". I would criticize anyone who took an unsubstantiated scientific theory and lived their life as if it was fact.</quote> so when will you be criticizing yourself for Scientism? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 03/30/21 8:00:02 PM #65:	No, but I sometimes wish I was capable of that. Or rather, that there actually were a god. <cite>Esrac posted [p:952295406] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>No, but I sometimes wish I was capable of that. Or rather, that there actually were a god. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/30/21 8:05:58 PM #66:	pure_temper posted... you dont seem to understand that most knowledge you have is predicated not on physics or the scientific method, but on assumptions about reality in the first place you have no way of proving w/ a scientific experiment that you are not in The Matrix. And so many other things. Have you ever seen it? Anyway, God is not the only concept or subject which has to be approached from another angle You have no way to prove you are in the Matrix either. In fact, why would a creator even allow its creation to become aware of such? Could we even comprehend it? If we're going to live as if anything might be true, then what even is truth? Everybody should just do whatever the hell they want since reality is arbitrary and a matter of faith. Nothing has to be approached from a different angle. Cause and effect and experimentation are all we need. I don't make assumption unless you're going to say something really enlightened like "We assume we aren't going to trip and float into the sky everyday" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952295601] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>you dont seem to understand that most knowledge you have is predicated not on physics or the scientific method, but on assumptions about reality in the first place you have no way of proving w/ a scientific experiment that you are not in The Matrix. And so many other things. Have you ever seen it? Anyway, God is not the only concept or subject which has to be approached from another angle</quote>You have no way to prove you are in the Matrix either. In fact, why would a creator even allow its creation to become aware of such? Could we even comprehend it? If we're going to live as if anything might be true, then what even is truth? Everybody should just do whatever the hell they want since reality is arbitrary and a matter of faith. Nothing has to be approached from a different angle. Cause and effect and experimentation are all we need. I don't make assumption unless you're going to say something really enlightened like "We assume we aren't going to trip and float into the sky everyday" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Demon1050 03/30/21 8:07:07 PM #67:	God cannot be proven or disproven. That's why it's called faith. I find it comical how people can argue and say believing in a god is "stupid" or they act like they can prove it's impossible such a thing exists. Such arrogance is just raw stupidity. Faith makes the world better for a lot of people that believe, who are you to mock them? Again, it cannot be proven/disproven, believers have every right to have their views respected. As do non-believers. Period. Personally I have pretty heavy faith, I've had crazy events unfold that are nearly impossible to be coincidence. Anecdotal proof at best, yes, I know. <cite>Demon1050 posted [p:952295642] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>God cannot be proven or disproven. That's why it's called faith. I find it comical how people can argue and say believing in a god is "stupid" or they act like they can prove it's impossible such a thing exists. Such arrogance is just raw stupidity. Faith makes the world better for a lot of people that believe, who are you to mock them? Again, it cannot be proven/disproven, believers have every right to have their views respected. As do non-believers. Period. Personally I have pretty heavy faith, I've had crazy events unfold that are nearly impossible to be coincidence. Anecdotal proof at best, yes, I know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/30/21 8:08:29 PM #68:	pure_temper posted... so when will you be criticizing yourself for Scientism? I believe the rain gods will bring us a good harvest this year. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952295679] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>so when will you be criticizing yourself for Scientism?</quote>I believe the rain gods will bring us a good harvest this year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 03/30/21 8:09:34 PM #69:	don't know, don't care --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:952295705] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>don't know, don't care </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 8:10:40 PM #70:	hockeybub89 posted... You have no way to prove you are in the Matrix either. so you admit that the scientific method is not the only way to derive knowledge? Because that was your first claim that I was challenging and the entire reason for our exchange in this topic --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952295755] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>You have no way to prove you are in the Matrix either.</quote> so you admit that the scientific method is not the only way to derive knowledge? Because that was your first claim that I was challenging and the entire reason for our exchange in this topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/30/21 8:11:49 PM #71:	Demon1050 posted... God cannot be proven or disproven. That's why it's called faith. I find it comical how people can argue and say believing in a god is "stupid" or they act like they can prove it's impossible such a thing exists. Such arrogance is just raw stupidity. Faith makes the world better for a lot of people that believe, who are you to mock them? Again, it cannot be proven/disproven, believers have every right to have their views respected. As do non-believers. Period. Personally I have pretty heavy faith, I've had crazy events unfold that are nearly impossible to be coincidence. Anecdotal proof at best, yes, I know. But which faith is correct? We don't respect all conspiracy theorists. We don't respect horrible people that believe bad things. Why should religious faith have respect by default? What actually makes it different than flat earth or QAnon or Holocaust denial? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952295790] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>Demon1050 posted... </cite> <quote>God cannot be proven or disproven. That's why it's called faith. I find it comical how people can argue and say believing in a god is "stupid" or they act like they can prove it's impossible such a thing exists. Such arrogance is just raw stupidity. Faith makes the world better for a lot of people that believe, who are you to mock them? Again, it cannot be proven/disproven, believers have every right to have their views respected. As do non-believers. Period. Personally I have pretty heavy faith, I've had crazy events unfold that are nearly impossible to be coincidence. Anecdotal proof at best, yes, I know.</quote>But which faith is correct? We don't respect all conspiracy theorists. We don't respect horrible people that believe bad things. Why should religious faith have respect by default? What actually makes it different than flat earth or QAnon or Holocaust denial? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/30/21 8:12:28 PM #72:	pure_temper posted... so you admit that the scientific method is not the only way to derive knowledge? Because that was your first claim that I was challenging and the entire reason for our exchange in this topic Unfalsifiable claims are faulty ones. God is faulty. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952295806] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>so you admit that the scientific method is not the only way to derive knowledge? Because that was your first claim that I was challenging and the entire reason for our exchange in this topic</quote>Unfalsifiable claims are faulty ones. God is faulty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xenozoa425 03/30/21 8:17:00 PM #74:	Phynaster posted... Just 5 days ago you were posting about Hunter Bidens laptop and him being a pedo. Stop. You have a reputation. The only reason you're even making that comparison is because it suits your style, you like starting things for no reason other than getting a kick out of it. But it's ok, at the end of the day though, I honestly don't really care. That drama is beneath me. Tag me as whatever you want, it ultimately does not matter to me. --- You can't hide from me, child. Baby, you can't run. So come on, and take a ride on the rays of the sun. <cite>Xenozoa425 posted [p:952295931] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>Phynaster posted... </cite> <quote>Just 5 days ago you were posting about Hunter Bidens laptop and him being a pedo. Stop. You have a reputation.</quote>The only reason you're even making that comparison is because it suits your style, you like starting things for no reason other than getting a kick out of it. But it's ok, at the end of the day though, I honestly don't really care. That drama is beneath me. Tag me as whatever you want, it ultimately does not matter to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 8:17:28 PM #75:	Demon1050 posted... God cannot be proven or disproven. That's why it's called faith. I find it comical how people can argue and say believing in a god is "stupid" or they act like they can prove it's impossible such a thing exists. Such arrogance is just raw stupidity. Faith makes the world better for a lot of people that believe, who are you to mock them? Again, it cannot be proven/disproven, believers have every right to have their views respected. As do non-believers. Period. Personally I have pretty heavy faith, I've had crazy events unfold that are nearly impossible to be coincidence. Anecdotal proof at best, yes, I know. lol indeed. The best part is when the really snobby atheists like Lawrence Krauss-lites think theyre so logical or something --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952295952] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>Demon1050 posted... </cite> <quote>God cannot be proven or disproven. That's why it's called faith. I find it comical how people can argue and say believing in a god is "stupid" or they act like they can prove it's impossible such a thing exists. Such arrogance is just raw stupidity. Faith makes the world better for a lot of people that believe, who are you to mock them? Again, it cannot be proven/disproven, believers have every right to have their views respected. As do non-believers. Period. Personally I have pretty heavy faith, I've had crazy events unfold that are nearly impossible to be coincidence. Anecdotal proof at best, yes, I know.</quote> lol indeed. The best part is when the really snobby atheists like Lawrence Krauss-lites think theyre so logical or something </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 8:18:37 PM #76:	hockeybub89 posted... But which faith is correct? We don't respect all conspiracy theorists. We don't respect horrible people that believe bad things. Why should religious faith have respect by default? What actually makes it different than flat earth or QAnon or Holocaust denial? the fact that most people on earth treat it as a deeply cherished worldview and part of their culture? Thats not good enough for you to avoid comparing their views to flat earthism or holocaust denial like some kind of petulant child? --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952296001] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>But which faith is correct? We don't respect all conspiracy theorists. We don't respect horrible people that believe bad things. Why should religious faith have respect by default? What actually makes it different than flat earth or QAnon or Holocaust denial?</quote> the fact that most people on earth treat it as a deeply cherished worldview and part of their culture? Thats not good enough for you to avoid comparing their views to flat earthism or holocaust denial like some kind of petulant child? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 8:20:04 PM #77:	hockeybub89 posted... Unfalsifiable claims are faulty ones. God is faulty. your entire worldview as you admitted is self contradictory because you claim science is the only way to obtain knowledge, but then acknowledged you dont have any real knowledge despite science so you should really rectify that before telling anyone else what is or isnt faulty --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952296066] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Unfalsifiable claims are faulty ones. God is faulty.</quote> your entire worldview as you admitted is self contradictory because you claim science is the only way to obtain knowledge, but then acknowledged you dont have any real knowledge despite science so you should really rectify that before telling anyone else what is or isnt faulty </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 8:20:37 PM #78:	DuranOfForcena posted... belief doesn't enter into the equation. the concept of a deity or deities as defined by pretty much every major religion which has existed is incongruous with our current scientific understanding of the universe, and has been for quite awhile now. what exactly is incongruous w/ the modern views on God and how we understand the universe today? --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952296089] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>belief doesn't enter into the equation. the concept of a deity or deities as defined by pretty much every major religion which has existed is incongruous with our current scientific understanding of the universe, and has been for quite awhile now.</quote> what exactly is incongruous w/ the modern views on God and how we understand the universe today? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lemondrop7 03/30/21 8:25:10 PM #79:	we live in a rotating orb in the middle of a black vast empty space. this entire situation is god man --- This signature is used so that my one line posts aren't swept into the wedge of you wall of text wankers <cite>lemondrop7 posted [p:952296241] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>we live in a rotating orb in the middle of a black vast empty space. this entire situation is god man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Scotty_Rogers 03/30/21 8:26:44 PM #82:	Always. --- FAM FOREVER <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:952296294] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>Always. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/30/21 8:27:47 PM #83:	pure_temper posted... your entire worldview as you admitted is self contradictory because you claim science is the only way to obtain knowledge, but then acknowledged you dont have any real knowledge despite science so you should really rectify that before telling anyone else what is or isnt faulty "If science is so great, then prove we aren't in the Matrix" is not the gotcha you think it is. Conspiracy theories make lots of unfalsifiable claims. They aren't onto something because someone else says "I don't know". You don't just get to fill holes with whatever the heck you want because you're impatient and want your answers to be correct. pure_temper posted... the fact that most people on earth treat it as a deeply cherished worldview and part of their culture? Thats not good enough for you to avoid comparing their views to flat earthism or holocaust denial like some kind of petulant child? So, no explanation then? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952296317] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>your entire worldview as you admitted is self contradictory because you claim science is the only way to obtain knowledge, but then acknowledged you dont have any real knowledge despite science so you should really rectify that before telling anyone else what is or isnt faulty </quote>"If science is so great, then prove we aren't in the Matrix" is not the gotcha you think it is. Conspiracy theories make lots of unfalsifiable claims. They aren't onto something because someone else says "I don't know". You don't just get to fill holes with whatever the heck you want because you're impatient and want your answers to be correct. pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>the fact that most people on earth treat it as a deeply cherished worldview and part of their culture? Thats not good enough for you to avoid comparing their views to flat earthism or holocaust denial like some kind of petulant child?</quote>So, no explanation then? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 8:28:28 PM #84:	DuranOfForcena posted... i'm not gonna bother engaging about this with you. i see the way you've been posting lately. you're not going to accept any argument or assertion i would give. i respect people who have been here a long time and have good arguments, as I'm open-minded about all things, but up to you. obviously i can't compel someone to engage. --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952296332] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>i'm not gonna bother engaging about this with you. i see the way you've been posting lately. you're not going to accept any argument or assertion i would give.</quote> i respect people who have been here a long time and have good arguments, as I'm open-minded about all things, but up to you. obviously i can't compel someone to engage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 8:29:56 PM #85:	hockeybub89 posted... "If science is so great, then prove we aren't in the Matrix" is not the gotcha you think it is. Conspiracy theories make lots of unfalsifiable claims. They aren't onto something because someone else says "I don't know". You don't just get to fill holes with whatever the heck you want because you're impatient and want your answers to be correct. The contention was that the scientific method answers one category of questions but not all categories of questions. In other words Scientism is not an argument against people's beliefs. I also made a positive case for god(s) in post #40 --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952296374] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>"If science is so great, then prove we aren't in the Matrix" is not the gotcha you think it is. Conspiracy theories make lots of unfalsifiable claims. They aren't onto something because someone else says "I don't know". You don't just get to fill holes with whatever the heck you want because you're impatient and want your answers to be correct.</quote> The contention was that the scientific method answers one category of questions but not all categories of questions. In other words Scientism is not an argument against people's beliefs. I also made a positive case for god(s) in post #40 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 8:32:52 PM #86:	Anyway @hockeybub89 unless you retract comparing people's religious beliefs w/ flat earthism and Holocaust denial, we simply can't make progress on continued conversation. So here's your chance to retract that, otherwise it's pointless to carry on. --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952296454] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>Anyway @hockeybub89 unless you retract comparing people's religious beliefs w/ flat earthism and Holocaust denial, we simply can't make progress on continued conversation. So here's your chance to retract that, otherwise it's pointless to carry on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/30/21 8:49:41 PM #87:	pure_temper posted... Anyway @hockeybub89 unless you retract comparing people's religious beliefs w/ flat earthism and Holocaust denial, we simply can't make progress on continued conversation. So here's your chance to retract that, otherwise it's pointless to carry on. Everything can be explained with science and no, I'm not retracting the above. All I'm saying is an illogical belief isn't more valid just because it's nicer or more popular. I wake up every day and get along with believers. I just would be honest if I debated them. People do illogical things everyday and I'd go crazy trying to police it. My life experience has informed me there is a positive benefit to me and others by making that choice. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952297038] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>Anyway @hockeybub89 unless you retract comparing people's religious beliefs w/ flat earthism and Holocaust denial, we simply can't make progress on continued conversation. So here's your chance to retract that, otherwise it's pointless to carry on.</quote>Everything can be explained with science and no, I'm not retracting the above. All I'm saying is an illogical belief isn't more valid just because it's nicer or more popular. I wake up every day and get along with believers. I just would be honest if I debated them. People do illogical things everyday and I'd go crazy trying to police it. My life experience has informed me there is a positive benefit to me and others by making that choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 8:51:00 PM #88:	hockeybub89 posted... Everything can be explained with science dude this is literally not true, why do you keep saying it? --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952297086] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Everything can be explained with science</quote> dude this is literally not true, why do you keep saying it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescente 03/30/21 8:52:48 PM #89:	There are a lot more believers than I thought there would be on CE. <cite>Crescente posted [p:952297155] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>There are a lot more believers than I thought there would be on CE. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 03/30/21 8:53:53 PM #90:	pure_temper posted... dude this is literally not true, why do you keep saying it? --- Cancelation makes my nipples hard. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:952297186] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>dude this is literally not true, why do you keep saying it?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThirstForBLOOD 03/30/21 8:54:16 PM #91:	Unsure <cite>ThirstForBLOOD posted [p:952297204] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>Unsure </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 03/30/21 9:07:17 PM #92:	hockeybub89 posted... Attributing things to God is not saying "we're not sure". I would criticize anyone who took an unsubstantiated scientific theory and lived their life as if it was fact. A floating God in the sky -- I can't solve that out for you because when I imagine God I don't imagine that kinda stuff But I can imagine a burning bush though, maybe even a person inside a whales mouth -- that some guy walked on water? If he imbued some magical form of energy to do it I guess I can believe it Like exactly what sorta proof am I supposed to have here? --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:952297621] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Attributing things to God is not saying "we're not sure". I would criticize anyone who took an unsubstantiated scientific theory and lived their life as if it was fact.</quote> A floating God in the sky -- I can't solve that out for you because when I imagine God I don't imagine that kinda stuff But I can imagine a burning bush though, maybe even a person inside a whales mouth -- that some guy walked on water? If he imbued some magical form of energy to do it I guess I can believe it Like exactly what sorta proof am I supposed to have here? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marauder64 03/30/21 9:16:02 PM #93:	Christ's death literally caused a new Era to begin. 2000+ years since his death and resurrection. BC: Before Christ, where they talked of his coming, AD: After his Death...and resurrection....they talk of his return to earth. --- What our enemies have begun, we will finish <cite>Marauder64 posted [p:952297845] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>Christ's death literally caused a new Era to begin. 2000+ years since his death and resurrection. BC: Before Christ, where they talked of his coming, AD: After his Death...and resurrection....they talk of his return to earth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/30/21 9:24:27 PM #94:	pure_temper posted... dude this is literally not true, why do you keep saying it? It is always true. "Everything we used to attribute to gods has been explained logically, but God might still exist because I really want him to. If science is so great, then why are there still questions?" We haven't cured cancer yet. Does that mean the cure must be God? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952298069] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>dude this is literally not true, why do you keep saying it?</quote>It is always true. "Everything we used to attribute to gods has been explained logically, but God might still exist because I really want him to. If science is so great, then why are there still questions?" We haven't cured cancer yet. Does that mean the cure must be God? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 03/30/21 9:33:35 PM #95:	can there be a higher power? yes. but I don't believe in abrahamic god and it/they cares about us. Nor do I believe we'll have an after life. --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:952298287] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>can there be a higher power? yes. but I don't believe in abrahamic god and it/they cares about us. Nor do I believe we'll have an after life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/30/21 9:43:49 PM #96:	hockeybub89 posted... It is always true. science does not and can not explain everything, dude no one who knows what theyre talking about believes that it does --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952298597] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>It is always true.</quote> science does not and can not explain everything, dude no one who knows what theyre talking about believes that it does </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 03/30/21 10:11:44 PM #97:	hockeybub89 posted... It is always true. "Everything we used to attribute to gods has been explained logically, but God might still exist because I really want him to. If science is so great, then why are there still questions?" We haven't cured cancer yet. Does that mean the cure must be God? Is God a synonym for death here? <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:952299415] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>It is always true. "Everything we used to attribute to gods has been explained logically, but God might still exist because I really want him to. If science is so great, then why are there still questions?" We haven't cured cancer yet. Does that mean the cure must be God?</quote>Is God a synonym for death here? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heartomaton 03/31/21 2:38:18 PM #99:	No. I'm a moron, but not that much of a moron. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/Heartomaton Heartomaton for President 2028. <cite>Heartomaton posted [p:952321243] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote>No. I'm a moron, but not that much of a moron. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 03/31/21 2:53:47 PM #100:	Do you believe there is a god? There's nothing with a discernable will or requiring reverence. So for all practical purposes, absolutely no god. From a theoretical standpoint, it's silly to rule out the possibility but it's also impossible to prove a negative. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:952321846] in Do you bel... [t:79378107]...</cite> <quote><quote>Do you believe there is a god?</quote> There's nothing with a discernable will or requiring reverence. So for all practical purposes, absolutely no god. From a theoretical standpoint, it's silly to rule out the possibility but it's also impossible to prove a negative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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