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Davos 04/15/21 10:30:46 AM #152: |
yemmy posted...
I have no idea what he did lol He didn't do anything but certain alt right types are pushing a false Emmett Till type narrative to justify the racist actions against him. In fact they are painting the Sergeant as a hero. There is of course zero evidence for this but when has that ever stopped these people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 04/15/21 10:30:49 AM #153: |
I bet those people didn't even call the police, they just thought it would scare him off if they said that. The thing is, if someone really does call the police and you leave before they get there, that makes you suspicious. So as soon as they say the police are on the way, he basically can't leave
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yemmy 04/15/21 10:32:43 AM #154: |
Veggeta X posted...
Read my post 123 Im not saying the guy isnt a racist lmao im just wondering what prompted this reaction. Like people dont just normally walk outside and do shit like this. You just want to point the finger and be like "i didn't question this at all im a GOOD person" lol. --- p226 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DepreceV2 04/15/21 10:33:34 AM #155: |
eston posted...
I bet those people didn't even call the police, they just thought it would scare him off if they said that. The thing is, if someone really does call the police and you leave before they get there, that makes you suspicious. So as soon as they say the police are on the way, he basically can't leave The cops were called based on a story I read --- Reminder: On March 2nd, 2021, Texas removed mask mandates and allowed 100% capacity for businesses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 04/15/21 10:34:01 AM #156: |
yemmy posted...
Im not saying the guy isnt a racist lmao im just wondering what prompted this reaction.Do you question everything in a similar fashion? I'm sure you do. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yemmy 04/15/21 10:36:01 AM #157: |
Veggeta X posted...
Do you question everything in a similar fashion? I'm sure you do. Pat yourself on the back some more And yes, when I see random videos on the internet of people arguing, I DO always question what happened beforehand. Do you not? Lmao be more transparent --- p226 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 04/15/21 10:39:21 AM #158: |
Hey man as long as you say you are then I guess you're golden.
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eston 04/15/21 10:41:19 AM #159: |
yemmy posted...
Like people dont just normally walk outside and do shit like this.Except racists frequently do exactly this. Hell it's how Ahmaud Arbery died --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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2Pacavelli 04/15/21 10:41:41 AM #160: |
Our Unity is Key
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Fony 04/15/21 10:43:08 AM #161: |
I bet whatever "happened" to those precious white girls was done by a white man and this guy just ran up on the first black person he saw.
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Veggeta X 04/15/21 10:44:04 AM #162: |
eston posted...
Except racists frequently do exactly this. Hell it's how Ahmaud Arbery diedI'm sure he knows he's genuine in asking for all the facts and he doesn't associate with the people who only wants to ask for it for the sake of a different narrative --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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2Pacavelli 04/15/21 10:45:04 AM #163: |
Confrontations like this is why Trayvon was murdered
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DarkProto05 04/15/21 10:46:27 AM #164: |
cuh posted...
They found his house lmaoDear god I hope this is actually real and happened to him. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 04/15/21 10:55:56 AM #165: |
Is that one big house, or just a really boring subdivision?
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DepreceV2 04/15/21 10:59:22 AM #166: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Is that one big house, or just a really boring subdivision? The latter --- Reminder: On March 2nd, 2021, Texas removed mask mandates and allowed 100% capacity for businesses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 04/15/21 11:00:57 AM #167: |
yemmy posted...
Im not saying the guy isnt a racist lmao im just wondering what prompted this reaction. You answered your own question. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Clutch 04/15/21 11:04:06 AM #168: |
Conflict posted...
Weird as hell that you post this like this never happens ever. Go outside. Not as weird as saying that since something could happen, that it definitely did in the case. We dont even know what instigated this confrontation. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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What_ 04/15/21 11:04:35 AM #169: |
Well the typical CE racists are still in here diarrheafest
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Veggeta X 04/15/21 11:04:50 AM #170: |
Clutch posted...
Not as weird as saying that since something could happen, that it definitely did in the case. We dont even know what instigated this confrontation.You really want it to be something else don't you? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sLaCkEr408___RJ 04/15/21 11:05:07 AM #171: |
Conflict posted...
saying "are we even allowed to ask that" is basically exposing yourself.It's a symptom of fear and division. It's always good to wait for the facts and reasoning for this may vary. This shouldn't be discouraged even in those who would be racist. Let them ask for the facts so it hits harder when it does. And if the facts happen to point in a different direction then at least your opposing side won't accuse you trying pushing some narrative. Jumping to conclusions is what causes so many misunderstandings in the first place. But that doesn't mean you cannot voice opinion or theories especially given the current climate. People are prejudice so it's good to stay vigilant and acknowledge this. The protesters are within their rights and are doing what they can to bring light to the situation. And it's technically fair to ask what happened before the video started. That's what the military investigated so they can take action. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DepreceV2 04/15/21 11:07:12 AM #172: |
DepreceV2 posted...
The latter @Questionmarktarius My Army friend just told me he stays on base. That explains why everything looks the same. That also means that he did that to another member of the military. That also means that all those people that showed up to his house are also in the military --- Reminder: On March 2nd, 2021, Texas removed mask mandates and allowed 100% capacity for businesses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Clutch 04/15/21 11:10:09 AM #173: |
Veggeta X posted...
You really want it to be something else don't you? Im more curious as to why people still tend to jump to conclusions with stories like this when so often the initial narrative turns out to be wrong. This story in particular seems to be missing a huge piece of information. Also, implying anyone who doesnt immediately agree with you is a racist is pretty gross. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 04/15/21 11:10:40 AM #174: |
yemmy posted...
Im not saying the guy isnt a racist lmao im just wondering what prompted this reaction. If you make that assumption (your last sentence) about that poster, isn't it fair to make an assumption about you (waiting for facts that fit a narrative), given that's often what is said by Republicans in cases like this? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 04/15/21 11:10:53 AM #175: |
DepreceV2 posted...
My Army friend just told me he stays on base.Oh... base housing. That's why it's extra-super boring. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 04/15/21 11:12:22 AM #176: |
Clutch posted...
Im more curious as to why people still tend to jump to conclusions with stories like this when so often the initial narrative turns out to be wrong. This story in particular seems to be missing a huge piece of information. How are you concluding "so often the initial narrative turns out to be wrong"? If people *don't* start with that belief wouldn't it answer your question? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Davos 04/15/21 11:13:02 AM #177: |
Clutch posted...
Im more curious as to why people still tend to jump to conclusions with stories like this when so often the initial narrative turns out to be wrong. This story in particular seems to be missing a huge piece of information. Say what that "missing" information is and then present evidence to back it up. So it can be assessed on its merits. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 04/15/21 11:13:52 AM #178: |
I'll ask you the same thing I asked the other guy: do you similarly question these videos in all fashion? I'm sure you do.
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Clutch 04/15/21 11:14:51 AM #179: |
Ruvan22 posted...
How are you concluding "so often the initial narrative turns out to be wrong"? If people *don't* start with that belief wouldn't it answer your question? Im not sure what youre trying to say. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Clutch 04/15/21 11:15:30 AM #180: |
Veggeta X posted...
I'll ask you the same thing I asked the other guy: do you similarly question these videos in all fashion? I'm sure you do. Of course. Did I pass your test? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Clutch 04/15/21 11:16:55 AM #181: |
Davos posted...
Say what that "missing" information is and then present evidence to back it up. So it can be assessed on its merits. Everything that occurred prior to this 2 minute video clip is the missing information. We have no context about what started this confrontation. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 04/15/21 11:24:56 AM #182: |
Clutch posted...
Im not sure what youre trying to say. You asked a question (why do people jump to conclusions) in your post and then put forward a claim (most of these videos have the wrong narrative). I'm asking A) How you support your claim B) Wouldn't people who *don't* start with your claim "jump to the conclusion", thereby answering your curiosity? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Davos 04/15/21 11:26:17 AM #183: |
Clutch posted...
Everything that occurred prior to this 2 minute video clip is the missing information. We have no context about what started this confrontation. And yet there is information out there claiming to know what happened before the confrontation and filming started and crucially why it started. I know you know what that is. So why don't you fill the rest of the board in . ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer1030 04/15/21 11:32:36 AM #184: |
Davos posted...
And yet there is information out there claiming to know what happened before the confrontation and filming started and crucially why it started. Unless he's with the police department it's not his job, it's been under investigation for almost 3 days now --- "I like having Todd Howard's hand on my balls though it feels nice and it just works. It gets me excited." -Skyrim_Guard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 04/15/21 11:35:55 AM #185: |
we know those that are a chip off of the ol' White supremacist block will ALWAYS give the benefit of the doubt to those who harm Black people regardless of the situation. they even try to create their own criteria for what counts and what doesn't count as proof, lmao
we know them supremacist defend the indefensible, we know they'll provide disingenuous arguments, tone deaf responses and flat out disregard entire historical timelines. those like that can imitate human behavior and emotions, but still can't quite relate to being human. that's why empathy is such a challenge towards anything not on four legs. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Davos 04/15/21 11:48:12 AM #186: |
Slayer1030 posted...
Unless he's with the police department it's not his job, it's been under investigation for almost 3 days now No he keeps alluding to something causing and justifying the soldiers actions but he won't say what it is. Would you care to say what you think this guy did to deserve what happened to him? I know you like the other poster know exactly what I'm talking about but seem unwilling to repeat these allegations here. Why is that I wonder? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cardoor123 04/15/21 11:54:17 AM #187: |
Should have put that motherfucker behind bars for a year+. No reason to be aggressive and assaulting the young man based on what you believe that they might be doing, especially when they weren't being aggressive back. Besides all this shit is just "he said, she said" bullshit. The couple said that the young man was around the area for 15 minutes just aimlessly wandering around, the young man said that he was just going home. Who knows who to believe, but guess what? Even if the couple was right and the young man was wondering in the area for far too long, last time I checked that isn't a fucking crime. You know what is a crime though? Assault. Fuck this piece of shit.
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Clutch 04/15/21 12:18:17 PM #188: |
Davos posted...
And yet there is information out there claiming to know what happened before the confrontation and filming started and crucially why it started. I have idea what the truth is. Why would I post unverified information? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VipaGTS 04/15/21 12:19:44 PM #189: |
People saying we dont know what happened before this!... the guy in the video is saying things akin to this is our community we dont know you you dont belong here...if he was harassing or hurting anyone why didnt he mention that once during his drunk, racist tirade?
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Clutch 04/15/21 12:20:57 PM #190: |
Ruvan22 posted...
You asked a question (why do people jump to conclusions) in your post and then put forward a claim (most of these videos have the wrong narrative). I'm asking How so I support my claim that people online jump often jump to the wrong conclusions before knowing the facts of the case? Hanging out on internet watching what is said on social media. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VipaGTS 04/15/21 12:21:57 PM #191: |
Clutch posted...
How so I support my claim that people online jump often jump to the wrong conclusions before knowing the facts of the case?But based on whats said in the video, why is your first instinct that the guy who was walking must have did something wrong? --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Clutch 04/15/21 12:22:05 PM #192: |
VipaGTS posted...
People saying we dont know what happened before this!... the guy in the video is saying things akin to this is our community we dont know you you dont belong here...if he was harassing or hurting anyone why didnt he mention that once during his drunk, racist tirade? Because we only get to see about two minutes of the confrontation? You get that, right? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 04/15/21 12:23:47 PM #193: |
Clutch posted...
Because we only get to see about two minutes of the confrontation?You know people think you have an alternative narrative here and is being ingenious right? I'm sure you know this. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Clutch 04/15/21 12:28:25 PM #194: |
Veggeta X posted...
You know people think you have an alternative narrative here and is being ingenious right? I'm sure you know this. No, I understand that there are people who believe that anyone who doesnt immediately agree with them is only doing so because of some nefarious purpose. Im sure its an exhausting way to live your life. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 04/15/21 12:30:31 PM #195: |
Clutch posted...
No, I understand that there are people who believe that anyone who doesnt immediately agree with them is only doing so because of some nefarious purpose. Im sure its an exhausting way to live your life.Well whatever helps you sleep at night I guess --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Clutch 04/15/21 12:31:55 PM #196: |
VipaGTS posted...
But based on whats said in the video, why is your first instinct that the guy who was walking must have did something wrong? Im not saying he did anything wrong. Im saying we dont know what initiated the confrontation. It could be that this guy just decided to randomly assault a black man walking through his neighborhood. Its certainly happened in the past. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Davos 04/15/21 12:35:30 PM #197: |
Clutch posted...
I have idea what the truth is. Why would I post unverified information? And what this "truth"? Can you give a straight answer without dissembling? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Clutch 04/15/21 12:53:24 PM #198: |
Davos posted...
And what this "truth"? I havent seen any follow up on this story yet. Is there something that Im missing? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Davos 04/15/21 1:08:17 PM #199: |
Clutch posted...
I havent seen any follow up on this story yet. Is there something that Im missing? And yet you posted this. I have idea what the truth is. Why would I post unverified information? Tell us what this idea of the truth is. Oh that's right that "truth" is baseless racist alt right lies. Emmett Till says hi. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 04/15/21 1:08:59 PM #200: |
VipaGTS posted...
People saying we dont know what happened before this!... the guy in the video is saying things akin to this is our community we dont know you you dont belong here...if he was harassing or hurting anyone why didnt he mention that once during his drunk, racist tirade?Yeah based on what's actually said in the video I didn't get any indication that the black guy was doing anything other than being present. It certainly didn't seem as though that meathead was responding to any sort of crime since he's telling him to leave --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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