Poll of the Day > Neo-Nazis planning demonstration in Phoenix

(+) Yeah! (+)

Imagine playing devils advocate for literal Nazis. Couldn't be me

---

---

SunWuKung420 posted...

MLK lead massive protests against people like literal Nazis

---

When did I defend them? I do think acting just like them is counter productive though.

---

Jen0125 posted...

MLK lead massive protests against people like literal Nazis

But he didn't yell hateful comments at them.

---

If the only thing white supremacists did was blast kpop as counter protest I would find them idiotic but harmless. Alas

---

Through civil disobedience alone Martin Luther King, Jr. single-handedly ended racism and died a peaceful death in his old age surrounded by loved ones, rather than being violently executed for his work.

---

Guys if Sunny lived in the 30's he would have reasoned with Hitler and WW2 never would have happened.

---

https://abc7chicago.com/friendship-race-mlk-day-friends-nazi-neo-nazi-white-black-racist-raicial/9813620/

"and she said, you gotta take that fuckin' crap down"

I can ALMOST see where you're coming from Sunny. Like, this video. The guy obviously needed love and compassion. But he also needed someone to tell him that he's got to deal with his fucking crap because HE is the one surrounding himself in hate. People talking you down even harshly are NOT the hateful ones.

---

Schools like to teach MLK and civil disobedience because it creates a culture of what is "proper" in a protest, and thus makes it easier to delegitimize and criticize any protest or movement that they seem to unruly. In reality, civil disobedience hasn't actually accomplished much (colonial caste system is still in India; racism is still prevalent in the U.S.) and true social unrest and disobedience is almost never pleasant or civil. The Indian independence movement went on for nearly 90 years, and though it culminated in civil disobedience and independence, that's far from the full story.

ReturnOfFa posted...

How do you think patterns of anti-semitic scapegoating and the development of Nazism could have been mitigated between 1880-1930?

By not assassinating archdukes.
---

Revelation34 posted...

By not assassinating archdukes.

mmm pretty sure most WWI scholars suggest something else would've broken the camels back regardless

not sure how that relates to mitigating anti-semitism in early 20th century Germany but you got the most basic facts of a WWI down, good attempt chap.

---

Take me back to Bismarck bitches!!!

---

JigsawTDC posted...

Schools like to teach MLK and civil disobedience because it creates a culture of what is "proper" in a protest, and thus makes it easier to delegitimize and criticize any protest or movement that they deem to be unruly. In reality, civil disobedience hasn't actually accomplished much (colonial caste system is still in India; racism is still prevalent in the U.S.) and true social unrest and disobedience is almost never pleasant or civil. The Indian independence movement went on for nearly 90 years, and though it culminated in civil disobedience and independence, that's far from the full story.

mlk literally had to put up with shit like this tryna delegitimize him in his time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egs5aUlXkAUYpsl.jpg:large

it's actually, literally the same kind of opposition the movement for equal rights faces today

---

---

I feel comfortable with my decision to harass Nazis if the opportunity arises tomorrow

---

Jen0125 posted...

I feel comfortable with my decision to harass Nazis if the opportunity arises tomorrow

I'm sure that's a mindset adopted daily by Nazis. "I'm comfortable harassing others I disagree with at any opportunity."

---

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTs_Q4hEqmA

*edit*
aged restricted? It's the Dead Kennedys live in TX performing nazi punks fuck off

i mean. when i hear neo-nazi, my first thought is "but are they REALLY neo-nazis?" cause the term gets thrown out for basically anything right of center.

---

SunWuKung420 posted...

I'm sure that's a mindset adopted daily by Nazis. "I'm comfortable harassing others I disagree with at any opportunity."

Great job conflating everyone against Nazis with Nazis.

---

ssj4supervegeta posted...

i mean. when i hear neo-nazi, my first thought is "but are they REALLY neo-nazis?" cause the term gets thrown out for basically anything right of center.

Websites like The Daily Stormer, 8kun and large rallies would indicate - yes.

---

I have literally only compared people who propagate supremacist rhetoric while wearing swastikas' to Nazis'.

There is also members of far right groups like The Golden Dawn who have said they can't be fascist because they aren't Italian.

They should all fuck off

ReturnOfFa posted...

Great job conflating everyone against Nazis with Nazis.

Your logic is flawed.

But being mean to people is still just being mean. Just because a person was raised to believe incorrect things usually through abuse doesn't justify more abuse.

---

ssj4supervegeta posted...

i mean. when i hear neo-nazi, my first thought is "but are they REALLY neo-nazis?" cause the term gets thrown out for basically anything right of center.

Did you read the article linked in the very first post of this topic? @ssj4supervegeta

---

ssj4supervegeta posted...

i mean. when i hear neo-nazi, my first thought is "but are they REALLY neo-nazis?" cause the term gets thrown out for basically anything right of center.

well maybe if there werent so many folks on the right with Nazi-like ideologies

---

SunWuKung420 posted...

Your logic is flawed.

But being mean to people is still just being mean. Just because a person was raised to believe incorrect things usually through abuse doesn't justify more abuse.

demonstrate the flaw

I already said they need love and some reality. speaking up for love and not hate isn't abuse. Jen going to a march and playing K-pop isn't abuse. Stop exaggerating. I don't even want to respond to posts like these.

you offer no fucking solution

like I said, what is it you're offering? tacit acceptance and a podcast interview every week? gag me.

---

ssj4supervegeta posted...

i mean. when i hear neo-nazi, my first thought is "but are they REALLY neo-nazis?" cause the term gets thrown out for basically anything right of center.

No, this group calls themselves Nazis.

---

ReturnOfFa posted...

gag me.

Don't tempt me with a good time

---

agesboy posted...

mlk literally had to put up with shit like this tryna delegitimize him in his time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egs5aUlXkAUYpsl.jpg:large

it's actually, literally the same kind of opposition the movement for equal rights faces today

I'm not saying civil disobedience doesn't have it's place, but it, and people like MLK, don't exist in a vacuum. And I'm not saying his efforts were illegitimate or trying delegitimize him, only highlighting that other forms of protest ARE legitimate and that they often are happening in conjunction with civil disobedience. You're conflating things and projecting if you think what I'm saying is the same as the opposition MLK faced. The comic is using him as a scapegoat and blaming him for riots comitted by others (similar today to how BLM is blamed for riots comitted by others or a minority of followers); I'm not even in the same space as the comic artist: I'm saying that rioters have their place and shouldn't be demonized. We'll mythologize the Boston Tea Party, but when it's anyone other than white folk committing destructive acts of rebellion we need to criminalize them and remind them that the only way they're allowed to rebel is civilly and obediently, and not to get too loud.

Jen0125 posted...

Don't tempt me with a good time

Hey, I don't wanna be hot under the collar in two ways o_o

---

The flirtations between fa and Jen today have been getting steamy and I gotta wonder: does Spiderboy have competition?

Time for Fa to bust out his Green Goblin cosplay.

---

Sarcasthma posted...

Time for Fa to bust out his Green Goblin cosplay.

The only costume I have is a Bulma costume, and I've probably put on enough weight to get stuck in it for the rest of my life.

---

ReturnOfFa posted...

The only costume I have is a Bulma costume, and I've probably put on enough weight to get stuck in it for the rest of my life.

I can think of worse fates

---

One time for Halloween I was Hunter S. Thompson and my girlfriend was Sailor Jupiter because we didn't think to coordinate or anything (also weren't "out" as a couple) and that was a kinda funny pairing, but it that was a great night. So fa, you need to do better than Bulma and at least get a Gohan or Vegeta costume, but obviously Goku is the ideal.

Excellent display of character and tolerance in this topic.

Really good examples of what kind of people there are around here.

Njord posted...

Excellent display of character and tolerance in this topic.

Really good examples of what kind of people there are around here.

Vague people?

---

why is it unsurprising the guy with a Nordic username is crying about people not being tolerant of Nazis? Don't you have goat to blood sacrifice while high on DMT with the rest of your paramilitary group or something? Why are you posting here?

I chat with my Mommy, Daddy and my 64-year old Conspiracy Theorist roommate with the same intensity, and still tell them I love them \_()_/. Take a deep breath kids.

---

ReturnOfFa posted...

Vague people?

People that are tolerant of others with different views and able to respect the rights of others to demonstrate their beliefs without antagonizing or belittling them.

JigsawTDC posted...

why is it unsurprising the guy with a Nordic username is crying about people not being tolerant of Nazis? Don't you have goat to blood sacrifice while high on DMT with the rest of your paramilitary group or something? Why are you posting here?

I post here because I can. Just like you. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy and idiocracy in topics like this because it seems like some of ya'll have gone noseblind.

Njord posted...

People that are tolerant of others with different views and able to respect the rights of others to demonstrate their beliefs without antagonizing or belittling them.

I post here because I can. Just like you. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy and idiocracy in topics like this.

Where do you find that was violated?

---

Njord posted...

tolerant

lmao shut up dude

---

Njord posted...

People that are tolerant of others with different views and able to respect the rights of others to demonstrate their beliefs without antagonizing or belittling them.

I post here because I can. Just like you. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy and idiocracy in topics like this because it seems like some of ya'll have gone noseblind.

omg shut the fuck up zeus

---

I'm just wondering if gag meant scarf or fingers.

---

I notice he didn't deny having to blood sacrifice a goat while high on DMT. Dude's definitely a member of The Base.

"Don't protest Nazis" is the memo I'm getting from at least two folks here. OK roger thanks not gonna take the advice with all due respect and Tolerance. Sending love to you and yours.

---

DirtBasedSoap posted...

lmao shut up dude

That's a bit of a rude thing to do, telling people what to do. Only reinforces the original comment of a great show of your character and personality.

Mead posted...

omg shut the f*** up zeus

I'm not Zeus. Is your world so fragile that you think someone who doesn't think the same as you is someone else? Kind of weird and paranoid.

JigsawTDC posted...

I notice he didn't deny having to blood sacrifice a goat while high on DMT. Dude's definitely a member of The Base.

We don't sacrifice goats anymore. Or use DMT. We just drink and watch old movies. Sometimes we play D&D or Cards Against Humanity.

Njord posted...

That's a bit of a rude thing to do, telling people what to do.

stop telling me to tolerate nazis

if youre gonna troll, can you at least be funny like me? thanks

---

It's super **** time.

---