Current Events > Mars is such a big waste of time and money.

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Basically a huge dick waving contest. Especially people like Musk who say we should colonize Mars to ensure the survival of the human race. That's very dumb. So we leave a dying planet for a dead planet. What a joke.

All efforts should be focused here on Earth, on stopping and reversing climate change and income inequality. Then after that is done, Mars is still dumb. We should have orbital space habitats (stanford torus) instead. Blow up Mars for all I care.

Mars is just a stepping stone. Imagine colonizing other planets after Mars

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LNSS posted...

Blow up Mars for all I care.

LNSS posted...

That's very dumb.

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I agree that Mars as a hope for humanity is a dumb idea, but why would you wanna blow it up

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In a way I agree, we really don't have the tech to even make mega structures on Mars since we don't even have advanced Space Technology to make it happen.

Earth should have unity and equality first before we can even think about all that.

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have These guys never played DOOM?

Mars is basically hell

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Why not use the moon as a stepping stone then?

I guess people still fail to realize the engineering it takes to do these missions. They're not involved in it so why would they right? Point is the shit they learn doing these missions can and have been applied to improving life on Earth.

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Frizzurd posted...

Why not use the moon as a stepping stone then?

That actually would make more sense, having octagonal connected structures from crater to crater throughout the moon would be a interesting concept.

again the tech. involved would have to be highly advanced, and something we can't do yet.

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Frizzurd posted...

Why not use the moon as a stepping stone then?

To where? All the solar system are dead rocks and clouds.

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

I guess people still fail to realize the engineering it takes to do these missions. They're not involved in it so why would they right? Point is the shit they learn doing these missions can and have been applied to improving life on Earth.

This. The process of developing the technology to go to the moon got us things like plastics, satellite communications, GPS, better computers, etc.

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Oreos74 posted...

have These guys never played DOOM?

Mars is basically hell

dat delicious Argent Energy tho

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I agree

Enceladus is where's it's at

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Red rocks!

YEA YEA!

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LNSS posted...

To where? All the solar system are dead rocks and clouds.

I'm referring to the other comment about Mars being a step to something else.

I dunno, the last time we did a giant space dick waving contest, we ended up developing some pretty cool tech and shit along the way.

The runoff innovation from space programs has always been pretty great, and one of its best benefits. A lot of things needed to make stuff like this possible end up having myriad uses.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/08/space-race-inventions-we-use-every-day-were-created-for-space-exploration/39580591/

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Terraforming and any sizable population living there is a pipe dream at the moment, but the possibility of forming small population outposts for other space projects is definitely something worth progressing. Being able to form self-sufficient bases that can in turn produce their own materials from that of the planet/planetoids/nearby celestial bodies will greatly increase our ability to explore space.

No

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DarkBuster22904 posted...

I dunno, the last time we did a giant space dick waving contest, we ended up developing some pretty cool tech and shit along the way.

The runoff innovation from space programs has always been pretty great, and one of its best benefits

the Space Race was overall far more exciting when it was America vs USSR, but now it's just rich jagoffs trying to outdo each other

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Kaliesto posted...

Earth should have unity and equality first before we can even think about all that.

So we should never leave Earth? Because that's never going to happen.

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Well that's the world we live in. People waste money on stupid things all the time. Nothing new at all.

But traveling to mars does have its upsides. Earth and our Sun will NOT be here forever. It's easy for you to say its a waste of money. Because you are living now and will die on this Earth without worrying about it blowing up by the sun. Space travel is more for our future generations. Humanity will still be here when the sun finally loses its power. And that's when moving would be a good idea for those living here at that time.
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Earth is a big waste of time and money right now i agree. Hopefully people wake up and realize that money isn't everything.

CosmicShadows posted...

Well that's the world we live in. People waste money on stupid things all the time. Nothing new at all.

But traveling to mars does have its upsides. Earth and our Sun will NOT be here forever. It's easy for you to say its a waste of money. Because you are living now and will die on this Earth without worrying about it blowing up by the sun. Space travel is more for our future generations. Humanity will still be here when the sun finally loses its power. And that's when moving would be a good idea for those living here at that time.

In fairness, the probability of humanity, or anything even resembling it, still existing on earth by the time the sun gets anywhere near that point is basically 0.

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DarkBuster22904 posted...

In fairness, the probability of humanity, or anything even resembling it, still existing on earth by the time the sun gets anywhere near that point is basically 0.

could you imagine our shit species subsisting for what is it, a couple billion years, completely failing at any form of space travel only to get wiped out by the sun as it transitions into a red giant?

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It's honestly crazy the stuff you can and can't say now and how people take it. These people fear actual sense.

America doesnt want to go to Mars because it's the Red Planet and Red = Communism

Tim Curry said it best

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...

In fairness, the probability of humanity, or anything even resembling it, still existing on earth by the time the sun gets anywhere near that point is basically 0.

Lol such a silly post. You have no idea what the future holds for humans. Nothing will stop us from living life for million years to come. Except maybe an astroid that killed off the dinosaurs. But even that has a slim chance of doing so. Every year technology gets better. Meaning enhanced technology will make living life much easier.
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Duncanwii posted...

America doesnt want to go to Mars because it's the Red Planet and Red = Communism

it's the Red Planet not the Reds Planet

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1. Mars isn't the answer to our problems and going there is a waste of time.

2. Destroy it.

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CosmicShadows posted...

Lol such a silly post. You have no idea what the future holds for humans. Nothing will stop us from living life for million years to come. Except maybe an astroid that killed off the dinosaurs. But even that has a slim chance of doing so. Every year technology gets better. Meaning enhanced technology will make living life much easier.

the dinosaurs also didn't have Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck

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It is theoretically possible to make Mars inhabitable. Maybe not now but in the future.

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CosmicShadows posted...

Lol such a silly post. You have no idea what the future holds for humans. Nothing will stop us from living life for million years to come. Except maybe an astroid that killed off the dinosaurs. But even that has a slim chance of doing so. Every year technology gets better. Meaning enhanced technology will make living life much easier.

If we survive, that time frame is enough for us to have evolved into an entirely new species several times over.

whether by extinction, travel, or evolution, there is zero chance humanity exists on earth by the time the sun wipes out the planet.

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DarkBuster22904 posted...

If we survive, that time frame is enough for us to have evolved into an entirely new species several times over.

whether by extinction, travel, or evolution, there is zero chance humanity exists on earth by the time the sun wipes out the planet.

You still don't know that.
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Good thing nobody important cares what tc has to say.

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CosmicShadows posted...

You still don't know that.

I never said I "knew."

I said "the probability is basically zero."

Because it is.

Billions of years with no evolution, no space travel, and not a single extinction event? How the fuck would we manage that? Like, the sheer amount of planet-wide selective breeding we'd have to do to make sure evolution NEVER occurs is absurd. there's people alive TODAY who would wipe out the world in the next ten minutes,, if they had the tech;how long until one DOES get the tech? To say nothing of, as you said, asteroids. or climate disasters. its not impossible humanity will still be he we e, unchanged in ten billion hears. probably. but thatd take some laser-focused effort that we as a species clearly don't have.


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We're just preparing Mars for when we ruin this planet to the point it's uninhabitable.

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DarkBuster22904 posted...

I never said I "knew."

I said "the probability is basically zero."

Because it is.

Billions of years with no evolution, no space travel, and not a single extinction event? How the fuck would we manage that? Like, the sheer amount of planet-wide selective breeding we'd have to do to make sure evolution NEVER occurs is absurd. there's people alive TODAY who would wipe out the world in the next ten minutes,, if they had the tech;how long until one DOES get the tech? To say nothing of, as you said, asteroids. or climate disasters. its not impossible humanity will still be he we e, unchanged in ten billion hears. probably. but thatd take some laser-focused effort that we as a species clearly don't have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkCwFkOZoOY

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https://youtu.be/dAX2H0hpOc4

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